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Alpha Pharma Test E 250 - labmax 12/1/14

Galileo said:
Disclaimer: I know next to NOTHING about LM. Pardon my ignorance. Is it really a "fact" by the LM test that the products are underdosed? And if so, how underdosed? And how accurate is LM in deteriming this?

Hasn' Dr. Jim written some posts about Labmax not being completely reliable?

Sounds VERY good about the test! Can you/we trust that a random AP sample will be tested and by someone with no commercial interest in either positive or negative outcome? I'd rather have one state of the art objective test than 10 maybes.

I will create a thread on it soon with more details but right now I can briefly state that I have data to present, a subject with blood drawn 1 week after pinning 250mg TE from AP, pin #5 after 4 pins of 250 (1 pin weekly), with concurrent use of anadrol. The serum value TT was 14.1 nmol/L, which is around 406 ng/dL. If I am not mistaken, this MAY indicate the test to be underdosed.... however, there was a thread on here recently comparing blood values from 2 different guys doing hRT, I think, with the same test and frequency, yet wildly different values, and this was HG test...so... I'll create a separate thread on it...just wanted to share now, on the topic.
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As @mercury said, LM is pass fail. It doesn't tell you if something is under dosed. If a sample is sufficiently under dosed, though, it may result in a fail. If a properly dosed sample is contaminated with second hormone, that could cause a fail as well. Within those specific limitations, LM tests are very reliable.

Some of us believe we can determine a little more from the results, including whether something is under dosed. There's a little bit of voodoo in that kind of analysis, and as Dr Jim has said that information is not reliable. In my mind under dosed is the same as a fail.

Not sure what you are implying w.r.t. random samples. The posters of both LM tests in this thread are above suspicion IMO.
 
flenser said:
As @mercury said, LM is pass fail. It doesn't tell you if something is under dosed. If a sample is sufficiently under dosed, though, it may result in a fail. If a properly dosed sample is contaminated with second hormone, that could cause a fail as well. Within those specific limitations, LM tests are very reliable.

Some of us believe we can determine a little more from the results, including whether something is under dosed. There's a little bit of voodoo in that kind of analysis, and as Dr Jim has said that information is not reliable. In my mind under dosed is the same as a fail.

Not sure what you are implying w.r.t. random samples. The posters of both LM tests in this thread are above suspicion IMO.
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Would you say contamination with another steroid fails the test often? I'm curious because I'm sure most UGL don't clean there filters and thus residual hormone is left in your product.
 
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iintensity said:
Would you say contamination with another steroid fails the test often? I'm curious because I'm sure most UGL don't clean there filters and thus residual hormone is left in your product.
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That's a good question. I doubt trace amounts of cross contamination would be a problem with the volumes sources use, but I really don't know. I haven't seen it with any of the samples that failed labmax and were later tested in a lab. But that's only about 5 samples in all. Who wants to pay for lab testing on something that can't pass a simple colorimetric test?
 
I stopped writing on this forum because it is a waste of time im only watching whats happening and what i see is sad. if someone tries to enter this formu with high labs such as alpha pharma, vermodie, basically all of them have nothing to do with home made labs and are created in factories with gmp certificate which is compared with a pharmacy. Right away the seller is being hated on by the users that have been on this forum for a long time. the labs that are being promoted on meso are typical home made shit. and if someone comments on alpha pharma that is under dose the company spends millions on promotions and nice designs and it would be stupid to use bad powder when it is really cheap in india.
 
I am in this business for nine years this year five of my people using my products is entering in competitions to get pro card and using alpha they are in their best shapes so writing that alpha pharma is under dose is written by haters that try to promote their homemade shit
 
and i want to add that why are you wasting money on lab max which will not give you any results and it only tells you what substance is inside and blood test at labcorp costs 48$
 
NandroXL said:
I am in this business for nine years this year five of my people using my products is entering in competitions to get pro card and using alpha they are in their best shapes so writing that alpha pharma is under dose is written by haters that try to promote their homemade shit
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Hey brother look at the labmax tests. Also the Alpha pharma gear has been sent in for real lab testing brother. So we will know for a fact if it's underdosed before to long.
 
iam back to on after 7 month off... hgh , master e test e 500 mg (ap) ... blood work after 5 weeks 1269ng
 
@NandroXL do you still have the paper work with your blood test results? Will you post them here? If your levels are only 1269 after 5 weeks on AP testosterone then that would definitely show proof that it's extremely underdosed. That would help us a lot here brother.
 
NandroXL said:
and if someone comments on alpha pharma that is under dose the company spends millions on promotions and nice designs and it would be stupid to use bad powder when it is really cheap in india.
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if I see one post after another on other forums not only here that Alpha is underdosed I have no reason not to believe.

I had Alpha a few years ago I did not feel anything, switch to something else I had wood 24/7.

Alpha is UGL.
 
NandroXL said:
iam back to on after 7 month off... hgh , master e test e 500 mg (ap) ... blood work after 5 weeks 1269ng
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HAHAHAH this is fuckin pathetic. These numbers are sad and I feel awful for you thinking they are good. Do you realize that people pin less than half that amount and get these levels on bloods draws between the 5th and 7th day after injection. Wow! You should just stay away
 
yes iam on hrt after this cycle ... 1290 its wery good score ... on cycle i have 3700 ng
 
NandroXL said:
yes iam on hrt after this cycle ... 1290 its wery good score ... on cycle i have 3700 ng
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Now you are just back peddling. In other words, you are lying.(in case the language barrier gets in the way) You said you were back on 500 and were at 1290 after 5 weeks.
 
NandroXL said:
yes iam on hrt after this cycle ... 1290 its wery good score ... on cycle i have 3700 ng
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Lol, first tiff comes back and then you grace us with your presence. I feel honored, happy your hear Nandro, don't leave this time. Tell us more about your cycles, dosage and associated bloodwork. It will help us understand :)
 
Marcus said:
Lol, first tiff comes back and then you grace us with your presence. I feel honored, happy your hear Nandro, don't leave this time. Tell us more about your cycles, dosage and associated bloodwork. It will help us understand :)
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Tiff is back?
 
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