WATER?? im not on D-Bol buddy. Anavar doesnt aromatize - Shouldnt be any weighted gained due to water...
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WATER?? im not on D-Bol buddy. Anavar doesnt aromatize - Shouldnt be any weighted gained due to water...
newbie23
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dont call me buddy asshole-and yes its a lot of water period..................you dont know what the fuck your talking about.
if i could gain 7-10 lbs of muscle on any compound in 3 weeks thats all i would ever take
Hate to burst your little bubble, but hopefully that scale was balanced, and on a hard surface. Otherwise, sure it will weigh you in 10lbs more than what you think. Happens all the time, I constantly have to adjust the scale at the gym.
And it is next to impossible to gain 10lbs of muslce in 3 weeks. If anything its just water weight.
Hahaa, your maturity level is through the roof. Since i dont know anything and your an expert on this drug... would you please enlighten me why id gain 7-10 lbs of water??? Scientific explanation would be beneficial as well, seeing as you know what the fuck your talking about
newbie23
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exactly train-that or since he was on a no carb diet before-the simple change in diet could have thrown some water on him as well.
im not trying to rain on his parade-just sayin dont expect that to stay once your off
im not trying to rain on his parade-just sayin dont expect that to stay once your off
newbie23
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var will make you hold water-just not as much as other things. im outta this thread mr know it all-cause it obvious you know what the fuck your talking about so why and they hell am i even posting.
I replied to your comment on water retention - as simple as that.
You then implied that i knew nothing and you did....
Please give me your "scientific explanation" to why I would hold up to 7-10lbs on a drug that has no estrogenic side effects and doesnt aromatize..?
Im dead serious... I would like to hear your explanation.
Get Some
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This is the answer... YOUR DIET... that's the whole reason you are gaining weight in the first place.
It's amazing how many people think they are gaining quality mass because they switched to a different brand of BCAAs or "Animal Pak Vitamins." You ask them what they are doing differently and they say because they are taking a new product they had to start eating better. FINE, I'm glad the product made you do that. Just realize that it's not the actual direct effects of the product that are doing this. In that case the product has much more of an INDIRECT effect on you. Don't get me wrong, that's not a bad thing.
I can run dbol without gaining much water weight at all (overall gais arren't as good either). On the same token, I can run Var and gain a ton of water weight. It all depends on your nutrition and eating habits. Also, you have to know what you want to get out of the product. You weigh about 150 lbs. Why the fuck are you so concerned with gaining water weight??? Gaining some water weight will give you the added strength needed to build more muscle. Worry about cutting down later or you'll be that same 140-150 size forever.
You don't have to admit you were wrong, just please take people's advice seriously. We are not here to clown you all day. NO ONE HERE WANTS TO SEE YOU LOSE MONEY OR WASTE YOUR TIME. As far as they're concerned you're excelling at both of those right now.
Var is a very mild weak androgenic compound, needs to be stacked with some test to really be effective. Your question as to why you have gained weight is simple, you started "eating" - Carbs, and probably more calories, if you were on a carb depleted diet, probably starving yourself bitch diet, and cardio every day, your muscles lack nutrients, amino acids, and water. They were depleated and flat, nothing really to them.
So what happened to you??? DO YOU KNOW WHY body builders carbo load before a show, because it blows up the muscle cells. Makes you look full. This is exactly what happened to you. You never gained any muscle, your current cells are just filling back up with water and nutrients.
Granted, unless your scale was wrong and not balanced, then nothing would have changed with you.
So what happened to you??? DO YOU KNOW WHY body builders carbo load before a show, because it blows up the muscle cells. Makes you look full. This is exactly what happened to you. You never gained any muscle, your current cells are just filling back up with water and nutrients.
Granted, unless your scale was wrong and not balanced, then nothing would have changed with you.
Stretch
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All the bullshit aside. I still am very interested in hearing/seeing the "results" from this....(i don't wanna call it a cycle) experiment.
Don't quit posting crowe!!
Hopefully you're a man, and you have thick enough skin to handle all the b.s.
Don't quit posting crowe!!
Hopefully you're a man, and you have thick enough skin to handle all the b.s.
I agree with you, in the sense that I filled my muscles back up with nutrients and water, thank you for your input. Ive checked on my scale @ home and the one at the gym. My buddy that works out with me was baffled as well... lets see if i gain more weight this week.
Alligator skin Stretch, Im not here to prove a point, or to prove someone wrong... Simply keeping a blog for myself and for others that are interested in this cycle...
haha actually that being said, after all the b.s. maybe i will prove a point, an unintended one of course.
I was never worried about gaining water weight... I wanted an explanation of why it was happening and i received that information. I just thought anavar was for a "dry" "Cut" look and water retention wasn't a problem due to the make-up of the drug.
Stretch
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I seriously doubt it. However, I would like to see before and after pics.
Pic 1--start day of cycle
Pic 2--last day of cycle
pic 3--45 days post cycle---THIS WILL BE THE PROBLEM FOR YOU. THIS IS WHERE OUR POINT WILL BE MADE. THIS IS THE PIC, I DOUBT ANY OF US WILL EVER SEE.
Get Some
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Like I said, it ALL depends on your diet. COMPARATIVELY, on a clean diet, Var or Winny will inhibit much less water retention than Dbol or Drol (for most people). But, you can certainly gain water weight on Var if your diet is not clean.
Honestly, at your weight I would worry about GAINING in general above keeping the water weight off. It's so much easier to put on 20 lbs and then cut it down, rather than to try and keep the water weight off while bulking.
On a solid 10-12 week cutting cycle consisting of Prop/Tren A/ Var I would expect to gain about 5-7 lbs of muscle while cutting body fat by 3 or 4 percent (depending on where you start). Even that would be taking in to account an exceptional diet. You ony have one of those compunds working for you...and for half that period of time or less.
Sorry, I dont understand the highlighted portion of your post... So now I should be worried about gaining weight? or i shouldn't?
My diet as it is right now, is EXTREMELY clean. I will find out in 1.5 weeks whether or not im still gaining weight...
Get Some
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You cut down from 160. So, with AAS cycled correctly you should have no problem getting back to 160 while gaining strength. From there, you can cut body fat without losing any real weight on the scale. You'll probably be happy at the end of your cycle. A week later though, you'll probably want to start poppin the Var again. Orals when used by themselves can be very addicitve, just like any other drug. Many addictions are psychological... and what's more psychological than the feeling you get about how your body looks??
I wrote about a personal experience (in another thread) I had with a good friend who became "addicted" to Dbol. He went from 160 lbs to 220 lbs in about 6 months. However, in order to do this, he had to remain on Dbol for almost the entire 6 months period and up the dosage to around 120 mg per day toward the end. Needless to say he had to be hospitalized shortly thereafter and almost lost his liver. His vital organs were starting to shut down. One month later he was back to 165 lbs. So, 7 months and deteriorating health to gain 5 lbs? hardly worth it IMO.
People never realize this until it actually happens to them. We don't want you to be one of those people Crowe! Like I've said before, we can only give you the best possible advice from personal experience. The ball is in your court after that...we can only hope that you would listen to at least one of us. Whatever path you choose to follow, I wish you all the best. You may be too young to listen...but being humbled never gets old!
Stretch
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^^Grea post bro....^^
Thank you for your advice, that is a great post...
I agree with you 100%, I could easily find this drug addictive... I wont be the guy who cycles on it for that long, after 50 days im off. I don't wanna be the guy who used AAS to gain a better physique for the summer months but that's precisely what Iam doing. As of right now, im extremely pleased with what iam seeing, my abs look like metal plates, biceps look they were filled with liquid metal. When i wear a wife beater (which is really rare because I don't like being "that" guy in the gym showing off his muscles) when i did wear it i looked fucking ripped, people would watch me as im doing my workout.
Are you suggesting that when I do choose to run another cycle in the future to use an inject-able with an oral?
Get Some
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Well, I would view it as running an oral with an injectable, not the other way around. You have to run the injectable during and for at least a little longer than the oral.
So... basically you hate yourself?
Yea I think I have the majority of information on a test cycle, but i wont be starting that until next summer... Who knows, if i gain all the results with Anavar only and can keep them for the summer I wont really have to jump to the injectables.
Haahahaha, no no. I love myself, I just dont want to be depicted as a person that is just using them for aesthetics ect. But now that i think about it, thats exactly what there used for, and of course strength...
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