Another newbie going for first cycle!

[Mac11wildcat]

Oh, and 100mg clomid for a first test cycle is quite a bit...

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

He makes a mean cupcake.

I didn’t know there were secret rules about a first cycle with only test...
Oldschool you re too much into mine cupcakes , dont you? What do you mean with Mean Cupcake?

 

[Gbro]

I didn’t know there were secret rules about a first cycle with only test...
Oldschool you re too much into mine cupcakes , dont you? What do you mean with Mean Cupcake?

If they have a bad reaction, bad results, gyno, etc... how will they know what caused it? Start with test. See how they respond. Maybe they're a super responder. Maybe they aromatize like crazy. This is a harm reduction board. Not a meat head grunt grunt more is better dumbfuck board. You're smart enough to realize this.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

If they have a bad reaction, bad results, gyno, etc... how will they know what caused it? Start with test. See how they respond. Maybe they're a super responder. Maybe they aromatize like crazy. This is a harm reduction board. Not a meat head grunt grunt more is better dumbfuck board. You're smart enough to realize this.

Man youre right but i also told him “have your estrogens checked before start testo use because so you can predict your aromatase activity” ... if it shows he has natty high estrogens so an anti aromatase should be mandatory... and also said Maybe i would go with Boldenone because Isnt a progestinic... anyway youre all right, sorry

 

[Gbro]

Man youre right but i also told him “have your estrogens checked before start testo use because so you can predict your aromatase activity” ... if it shows he has natty high estrogens so an anti aromatase should be mandatory... and also said Maybe i would go with Boldenone because Isnt a progestinic... anyway youre all right, sorry

New guys never check their estro before hand. They just pin a bunch of shit, show up six months later with a flacid cock, and then make death threats to anyone who gives them solid advice. Apparently, they're all homeless MMA fighters.

 

[Abt]

I did the somewhat the same dose for my first cycle, went from 84kg -> 96kg in 10 weeks made huge gains. Personally i was done by then, longer than 10 weeks wouldve been a waste. I think a lower dose for my first cycle (300-400) wouldve been enough. If you take hcg your balls will keep producing somewhere between 75-150mg of test so keep that in mind.

What i took;
1-10 test-e 500mg/week
2-12 hcg 1000iu/week
12-16 clomid 25mg/ed

I recovered perfectly without any problems. (Took blood before and after) Your pct is quite an overkill

 

[Lilarnie]

If you take hcg your balls will keep producing somewhere between 75-150mg of test so keep that in mind.

that seems reaaaaaaaaaly high? I recently read it’s 6/7 mg per day?

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

I m not sure about that HCG thing during cycle... even because is difficult to prove if its working... even Clomid during cycle... the same... so you checked your natty testo levels some weeks after last testo injection?
@Abt

 

[jbil75]

My Background
I'm 31 years-old, 4 years of lifing as a natty, never used steroid. I'm Asia and live in Southeast part.

My Objective
To bulk up and go beyond the natural plateau. I'm currently down to 12% BF and ready to bulk up. I have already done bloodwork for baseline and my test is normal.

My Cycle Plan
Week 1 - Testosterone E 480 MG
Week 2 - Testosterone E 480 MG
Week 3 - Testosterone E 480 MG
Week 4 - Testosterone E 480 MG
Week 5 - Testosterone E 480 MG
Week 6 - Testosterone E 480 MG
Week 7 - Testosterone E 480 MG
Week 8 - Testosterone E 480 MG
Week 9 - (nothing)
Week 10 - (nothing)
Week 11 - Clomid 100 MG/ED Nolvadex 20 MG/ED
Week 12 - Clomid 100 MG/ED Nolvadex 20 MG/ED
Week 13 - Clomid 50 MG/ED Nolvadex 10 MG/ED
Week 14 - Clomid 50 MG/ED Nolvadex 10 MG/ED

My Preparation
I have acquired gears as follow;
2 vials 10ML (300 MG/ML) Testosterone enanthate (UGL)
Clomid (50MG) = 50 tabs (UGL)
Nolvadex (20MG) = 50 tabs (UGL)
A box (100 pieces) of sterilized 23 gauge 1" needle
A box (100 pieces) of sterilized syringe
Alcohol pads

My Injection
I will be injecting my self all alone. I will draw 1.6 cc from vial, and use that same needle to inject into my thigh so I could see it, once a week, rotate side each week. I'm nervous but I'm gonna do it. I also watched countless IM video on Youtube and on here.

My Expectation
I expect "noticable" change in physique. Increase muscle mass like 10-15 LBs or more if possible, little fat along the way is acceptable. Water weight is not big concern. Just want to be more muscular and look fit in T-shirt.

My Diet & Training
I'm right now eating at maintenance level which is around 2300 calories, so during steroid cycle I will increase my intake to 3400 calories at least. And double my training to 6 days per week. Should I gradually increase Cal intake? or just increase from Day 1? Also the 1000 calories surplus is sweet spot for me? What do you guys think?

My gyno prevent
I learned that Test E only cycle at moderate dose doesn't need to worry much about gyno as long as I have proper PCT. I want to keep my cycle as simple as possible. I don't have any AI or HCG. After finish the cycle I will be off. (I'm not gonna cruise or do another cycle soon). If any slightest sign of gyno happen during cycle i will just take 10 MG Nolvadex a day throughtout cycle, is it ok? Or should I just take Nolvadex 10MG ED from Day1?

Finishing Cycle
When should I be lowering calories intake? During PCT phase? I should calculate my new maintenance and adjust accordingly right? Basically when should I stop eating in surplus so I will not gain unnecessary fat.

So you guys think overall my plan is good? Do I need to tweak anything, or any advise is appreciate!

Thank you in advance

Why 480 mg and not 500?

 

[Oldschool]

I didn’t know there were secret rules about a first cycle with only test...
Oldschool you re too much into mine cupcakes , dont you? What do you mean with Mean Cupcake?

Ohh baby I like your protein cakes.

 

[Abt]

Well gotta correct myself, its a little less but if your hcg is real your balls will keep producing test (Low-Dose Human Chorionic Gonadotropin Maintains Intratesticular Testosterone in Normal Men with Testosterone-Induced Gonadotropin Suppression) , thought it was more sorry!

The clomid was my pct.. i checked my natty bloods (as baseline) did the cycle, and 10 weeks after my pct took my blood again. (So 14 weeks after last test inject)

@FR0Z3N_B0MB34

 

[D8122]

Why 480 mg and not 500?

Everybody knows that everything bad happens after 480mg. At 500mg, you might as well just melt rat poison and inject it.
Had a buddy mess up measurements and inject 481mg one week............. he died

 

[Gbro]

Why 480 mg and not 500?

I'm assuming he has 300mg/ml.

If he draws .8 twice a week, he gets 480

 

[jbil75]

I'm assuming he has 300mg/ml.

If he draws .8 twice a week, he gets 480

Yeah I see that now in his original post. I glanced over it the first time.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Everybody knows that everything bad happens after 480mg. At 500mg, you might as well just melt rat poison and inject it.
Had a buddy mess up measurements and inject 481mg one week............. he died

I did it once
Turned me into a gay.

Now I suck dicks behind the dumpster of my local 7/11

Be careful with anything over 480mg

 

[Darkening99]

Guys! I now put a pause and will do more research before beginning anything. I will re-plan my cycle and extend it to 10 weeks. Still I will stick with Only Testosterone cycle for sure. No need to rush, I want the best of the best for my first cycle as best as possible.

I hate to break it to you, but 2x 10ml vials at 480mg a week will only last you 6 weeks... That’s not accounting for at least 1ml lost depending on the syringe you use. Running out at 6 weeks and having an “oh shit I should have prepared myself better” is the last thing you want to do in the middle of your cycle.

I think you miscalculated or I missed something? Of course! Last thing I wanna do is running a cycle with insufficient supplies! I will draw 1.6 cc per shot, once per week, Let's say 10 weeks I will use total of 16 cc and I have 2 vials, each has 10 ML contain 300MG/ML. I will even have leftover at the end.

Why 480 mg and not 500?

Drawing 1.6 cc of my vial (300mg/ml) will give me 480 mg strength right

Oh, and 100mg clomid for a first test cycle is quite a bit...

I also thought so. The main concern i have is all my gears (Test+Clomid+Nolvadex) are from UGL source (from very same company) I fear that they maybe underdosed. Or worst a bung/fake Clomid! that case i will be screwed at PCT.

So I'm considering testing my clomid right now by just eating it like a normal healthy male take 100 MG and see any reaction my body will be. Any recommendation on this is grateful.

Thanks again everyone

 

[Rival]

I think you miscalculated or I missed something? Of course! Last thing I wanna do is running a cycle with insufficient supplies! I will draw 1.6 cc per shot, once per week, Let's say 10 weeks I will use total of 16 cc and I have 2 vials, each has 10 ML contain 300MG/ML. I will even have leftover at the end.

I did miscalculate was only doing 1 vial at 6 weeks. Been a long day, you’re right.

you might want to split that into 2x shot a week.

 

[Gbro]

I did it once
Turned me into a gay.

Now I suck dicks behind the dumpster of my local 7/11

Be careful with anything over 480mg

What are you doing Saturday night? I've been lonely ever since I lost my queen.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

What are you doing Saturday night? I've been lonely ever since I lost my queen.

I charge $3 and a pack of slim Jim's
No negotiations or low ball offers

 

[wedorecover]

Oh look...another instance of recommending a second compound to somebody on their FIRST CYCLE.

This place hasn’t changed much.

They don’t get it brother