Another thread about someone trying to regain fertility and having issues.

idk if anyone mentioned but you need to use gonaderelin NOT hcg. So gonaderelin tells your body to relsease LH and FSH where hcg just mimics LH. So the gonad shit actually gets your body to start the LH and FSH to make testosterone. It was a game changer for me.
 
Is the tamox essential? I have the rest to hand but no tamox

Didnt realise hgh made a difference either!
Tamox is a add on, not really yes.

But gh in my opinion yes i saw it with a lot of athletes, gh makes sperm count better, sperm movement and development of sperm. And also helps with stress managment after heavy cycle or lifestyle stress
 
idk if anyone mentioned but you need to use gonaderelin NOT hcg. So gonaderelin tells your body to relsease LH and FSH where hcg just mimics LH. So the gonad shit actually gets your body to start the LH and FSH to make testosterone. It was a game changer for me.
Man I've never even heard of it. I looked it up and its a peptide? I cant seem to find it anywhere for sale. Seems like a good choice as it stimulates both lh and fsh. I'm going to have to do some more research and find a person that sells it and dosages.
 
I’ve been balls deep in research and this is the first I’ve heard of it too. That’s wild and seems like a good thread to pull on
 
Should totally consider switching to enclomiphene bro. Clomid is horrible and people report terrible long term side effects. Pretty sure for fertility pct people ran higher amounts of HCG for a short period to really jump start your system. Enclo is great long term as it helps jump start your testes and test levels as well.
Do you know a good source for enclomiphine? Apparently a lot of it’s faked
 
Enclo is trash.

HCG 3000-5000iu weekly + FSH 75iu 3x weekly for 3 months then test semen as it takes 3 months for semen to produce from Sertoli cells. Took me 1.5 years to be able to get enough for IVF.
 
I gave up like 5 days ago. Couldn't take the low test. It got up to 200 but yea it's just not for me. I guess I'm going to plan better next time. Get on stuff right before I stop trt. What was that 50 something days. God that was awful. I actually regained my fertility. But they wanted me off 90 days. In-between the loss in mass and gaining some fat the feeling of being pathetic and worrying about everything. I started losing strength even though I never stopped working out. I lost 30 pds off my bench. Even my cardio went way down. Watching something I worked so hard for wasting away was too much. Hopefully I'll recover faster than it took to gain it all.
 
I gave up like 5 days ago. Couldn't take the low test. It got up to 200 but yea it's just not for me. I guess I'm going to plan better next time. Get on stuff right before I stop trt. What was that 50 something days. God that was awful. I actually regained my fertility. But they wanted me off 90 days. In-between the loss in mass and gaining some fat the feeling of being pathetic and worrying about everything. I started losing strength even though I never stopped working out. I lost 30 pds off my bench. Even my cardio went way down. Watching something I worked so hard for wasting away was too much. Hopefully I'll recover faster than it took to gain it all.
Did you run HCG? HCG 4500iu week put me over 1000 total T
 
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