Another REGAINING Fertility Log after 9 years of AAS

[Jiobani]

I also have high viscosity. I'm not sure if its dehydration but the only thing other than drinking more water I do is to take mucinex close to ovulation. There's not a lot of study but I've read that it helps thin out the sperm. If you google mucinex sperm you'll get a bit more info incase you wanna try...

I'll check it out.

A friend of mine believes kisspeptin works extremely well for mobility too. He has an own peptide/sarms company, kinda shady shit, but he knows a lot about it.
You can find some about this in google, but no real clear answer. II will try it if my girl isn't pregnant by my bday in february.

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O-152 Investigation of the relationship of sperm motility and Kisspeptin in subfertile men

AbstractStudy question. Does kisspeptin administration affect the motility parameters in sperm samples of subfertile cases?Summary answer. Kisspeptin administra

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In recent years, a peptide named kisspeptin has been discovered that may have effects on sperm motility. Kisspeptin is known to trigger calcium release in hypothalamic neurons. In addition, kisspeptin administration increased sperm progressive motility in studies conducted on normozoospermic individuals. Furthermore, it is suggested that kisspeptin protein in seminal plasma is positively associated with semen quality.

How I understand it, it helps increase sperm quality and increases the ability to swim, but only if you already have active and working sperm(which we both do)

 

[strangegenericguy]

Thank you! didn't have a bloodtest for this. Last time I tested my bloods my LH/FSH was as low. This was during a cycle and I wasn't using HCG. To my knowledge ( I could be wrong), as i'm on TRT, LH/FSH wil come out low due to still supplementing with test.

I never expected to be completely infertile after B&C for about 8 years, but also didn't expect it to be this good. I wasn't really serious about kids when I was younger and didn't care about using HCG at all. I rarely used HCG, but have been consistently 3x per week now since the beginning of the year.

I do believe everyone will recover their fertility with the right protocol, unless you have some underlying problems that aren't AAS related.

That happens...varicocele probably killed my fertility and i'm Just in the 20's

 

[mrborat16]

hi bro, saw the topic some months ago...how is your fertility situation now ?

It was back to normal with the HCG/HMG/Clomid combo 2 months ago. Now I'm off everything. hope it still good to go.

 

[TRENdy07]

Tried to test today on the YO… I guess the damn thing crapped out bc it wouldn’t connect. Tried a dozen times or more. Wasted a test kit

 

[mrborat16]

Tried to test today on the YO… I guess the damn thing crapped out bc it wouldn’t connect. Tried a dozen times or more. Wasted a test kit

iOS or android? The wifi disconnects 1-2 times when it’s scanning but if you keep pressing the retry wifi it finally works after a few tries. I would try to get refunded if it didn’t work

 

[TRENdy07]

iOS or android? The wifi disconnects 1-2 times when it’s scanning but if you keep pressing the retry wifi it finally works after a few tries. I would try to get refunded if it didn’t work

iOS. I finally deleted the app and reinstalled and seems like it’s connecting well. The sample was well over an hour old at that point so I’ll try again next week. I started 75iu hmg everyday since I dropped test all together but QSC is out of stock now so I cut that in half until I can get more. Hoping for a significant increase in visual activity.

 

[mrborat16]

iOS. I finally deleted the app and reinstalled and seems like it’s connecting well. The sample was well over an hour old at that point so I’ll try again next week. I started 75iu hmg everyday since I dropped test all together but QSC is out of stock now so I cut that in half until I can get more. Hoping for a significant increase in visual activity.

Best of luck man! Let me know the results

 

[Jiobani]

It was back to normal with the HCG/HMG/Clomid combo 2 months ago. Now I'm off everything. hope it still good to go.

Do you still have any follow up tests planned?

Question to all,
So, as I previously posted in mrborat's thread, i'm also trying for a baby with my wife. My sperm tested(posted few posts back) is good and doctor says to just keep going.

My current protocol per week is:
150mg test
3000 IU HCG
150IU HMG

With my sperm count good and where I want it to be, what would happen if I drop the HMG? So only staying on test and HCG.

 

[MA11]

Do you still have any follow up tests planned?

Question to all,
So, as I previously posted in mrborat's thread, i'm also trying for a baby with my wife. My sperm tested(posted few posts back) is good and doctor says to just keep going.

My current protocol per week is:
150mg test
3000 IU HCG
150IU HMG

With my sperm count good and where I want it to be, what would happen if I drop the HMG? So only staying on test and HCG.

According to this meso article, your sperm parameters would take a hit due to low(er) FSH.

 

[MA11]

Forgot the link...

Anabolic Steroids and Fertility

Anabolic steroids don’t only affect the endogenous testosterone production, but also sperm production—a process called spermatogenesis. In this article I will walk you through how spermatogenesis works, how anabolic steroid use ties into this, and what you can possibly do about this.

thinksteroids.com

 

[mrborat16]

Do you still have any follow up tests planned?

Question to all,
So, as I previously posted in mrborat's thread, i'm also trying for a baby with my wife. My sperm tested(posted few posts back) is good and doctor says to just keep going.

My current protocol per week is:
150mg test
3000 IU HCG
150IU HMG

With my sperm count good and where I want it to be, what would happen if I drop the HMG? So only staying on test and HCG.

No follow up yet, ill post when I do another SA

 

[Jiobani]

Forgot the link...

Anabolic Steroids and Fertility

Anabolic steroids don’t only affect the endogenous testosterone production, but also sperm production—a process called spermatogenesis. In this article I will walk you through how spermatogenesis works, how anabolic steroid use ties into this, and what you can possibly do about this.

thinksteroids.com

Thanks for sharing, interesting read.

I'll keep the hmg in there until pregnancy achieved.

 

[mikelaurey84]

The only thing to do is to get off testosterone and use only hMG and hCG otherwise it would be very hard to recover your sperms.

Only in rare cases, guys are able to have good sperms while on testosterone, but this is not a normal condition.

 

[Jiobani]

The only thing to do is to get off testosterone and use only hMG and hCG otherwise it would be very hard to recover your sperms.

Only in rare cases, guys are able to have good sperms while on testosterone, but this is not a normal condition.

I don't agree with this. MANY men have conceived while on steroids.
You can find my tests results on page 7. B&C for many years, still on test. I have good sperm. 41M sperm per m/l

 

[mikelaurey84]

41M sperms does not mean that you have good sperms.
Moreover, it depends on what compounds you used in past years.
There are few men that can conceive while on steroids, the other ones should do a paternity test.

 

[Jiobani]

41M sperms does not mean that you have good sperms.
Moreover, it depends on what compounds you used in past years.
There are few men that can conceive while on steroids, the other ones should do a paternity test.

You can find all in the tests I posted.
I’ve used everything mate. Was on tren in may of this year.

Also, there is a literally a study posted 2 posts above this of men who are on testosterone and have maintained spermatogonesis.

By your logic, anyone who is using TRT, can’t conceive anymore. Absolutely not true.
Yes coming of steroids is obviously better than being on steroids. Never going on steroids is even better if you want to have kids.
It is not uncommon to conceive while on steroids. Almost all IFBB pro’s have children, a lot of kids as well. You really think they come off everything in the height of their career?

 

[MA11]

I guess most of these Pros conceive with IVF or mTESE though.

 

[mrborat16]

little update, cycle 11 and ovulation was tuesday.. I'm not expecting anything anymore tho.

I've been off clomid for 6-7 weeks now. I also stopped weekend THC edibles about 6-7 weeks ago.

I'll wait a full 90 days off everything before testing my sperm again to see where I'm at.

it's now been 8 months and 17 days off test!

 

[mikelaurey84]

You can find all in the tests I posted.
I’ve used everything mate. Was on tren in may of this year.

Also, there is a literally a study posted 2 posts above this of men who are on testosterone and have maintained spermatogonesis.

By your logic, anyone who is using TRT, can’t conceive anymore. Absolutely not true.
Yes coming of steroids is obviously better than being on steroids. Never going on steroids is even better if you want to have kids.
It is not uncommon to conceive while on steroids. Almost all IFBB pro’s have children, a lot of kids as well. You really think they come off everything in the height of their career?

By my logic, it is very hard to conceive while on steroids, I never said it is NOT possible, but it is very very very hard.
Only a small percentage of steroids users are able to naturally conceive while on steroids.
Moreover, after many years of steroids, it can happen that their testes are completely gone and so even with high dosage of hCG and hMG nothing can be done.

Most of the IFBB pros conceive because:
1. the froze their sperms years ago
2. they use IVF

I became azoospermic after ONLY 6 months on testosterone, I had to come off and wait 6 months before to get my wife pregnant.

It is possible to conceive while on steroids, but since it is very hard and extremely rare, why don't try to come off and follow the correct protocol?! In this way, you have more chances to achieve your goal.

 

[mikelaurey84]

little update, cycle 11 and ovulation was tuesday.. I'm not expecting anything anymore tho.

I've been off clomid for 6-7 weeks now. I also stopped weekend THC edibles about 6-7 weeks ago.

I'll wait a full 90 days off everything before testing my sperm again to see where I'm at.

it's now been 8 months and 17 days off test!

I would suggest you to continue with Clomid, it worked pretty good for me. It raised my sperms count a lot and also their mobility.