Another REGAINING Fertility Log after 9 years of AAS

[Lifting88]

I think I'm set on stopping clomid and just be off everything. (been of it for almost 6 months)
I had no clomid sides at the begining but now it's popping off and really getting annoying.

Really hope that my numbers won't change too much. If anyone thinks this is a bad idea feel free to tell me why.

Cycle 11 now and ovulation is next week.

Most times clomid sides start after a few weeks because because it has 2 isomeren and 1 building up after few weeks and gives side effect ...mostly symtoms of high estrogen

I think going off is good ...fertility will get back after quit steroids in almost every men but it can take time....test doens't come back in every men after long time steroid use and thats the only bad thing from going off and your maybe have low t symptoms

 

[mrborat16]

Most times clomid sides start after a few weeks because because it has 2 isomeren and 1 building up after few weeks and gives side effect ...mostly symtoms of high estrogen

I think going off is good ...fertility will get back after quit steroids in almost every men but it can take time....test doens't come back in every men after long time steroid use and thats the only bad thing from going off and your maybe have low t symptoms

Thank you for your input

 

[Monkipalo]

Nac or injeactable glutathione, injectable l-carnitine, vitamin B complex, 2-5g vitamin C, zinc and even icing your testiscles can help with sperm morphology and motility. Hopefully you can get her pregnant in the next few weeks/months, good luck and be patient.

 

[mikelaurey84]

You should come off everything, use only HCG and hmg.
This is the only way to be sure that you get your sperms back again.

 

[Lifting88]

You should come off everything, use only HCG and hmg.
This is the only way to be sure that you get your sperms back again.

even thats personal, i took hcg hmg and me semen got to zero...but my doc never see this before

 

[mikelaurey84]

even thats personal, i took hcg hmg and me semen got to zero...but my doc never see this before

Yes, everything is personal, but if you use testo by adding HCG and hmg without getting back your sperms, then it means that testo suppresses too much the hpta, then you need to stop using testo and use only HCG and hmg.

 

[Fariaia]

Hey, did you by chance test your LH/FSH after starting HCG? I am off steroids for month plus and using 25 mg clomid every other, as well as 2.000 ui hcg 3x a week. This was prescribed by my urologist. I have been doing this for one month and did bloods now. Test came low (186), which I guess was expected however LH and FHS also <1.0

 

[Lifting88]

Hey, did you by chance test your LH/FSH after starting HCG? I am off steroids for month plus and using 25 mg clomid every other, as well as 2.000 ui hcg 3x a week. This was prescribed by my urologist. I have been doing this for one month and did bloods now. Test came low (186), which I guess was expected however LH and FHS also <1.0

I think its normal your lh and fsh is low on blood when taking hcg

Hcg act like lh in the body but doens't raise your lh

Clomid doesn't raise lh or fsh because hcg suppress your body

 

[mrborat16]

Hey, did you by chance test your LH/FSH after starting HCG? I am off steroids for month plus and using 25 mg clomid every other, as well as 2.000 ui hcg 3x a week. This was prescribed by my urologist. I have been doing this for one month and did bloods now. Test came low (186), which I guess was expected however LH and FHS also <1.0

Yes I did ! The blood test was a few weeks after starting hcg/hmg. The test was posted a few pages back

 

[keistian]

I think its normal your lh and fsh is low on blood when taking hcg

Hcg act like lh in the body but doens't raise your lh

Clomid doesn't raise lh or fsh because hcg suppress your body

Why are doctors prescribing both hcg and clomid together if its counterproductive
I've seen a few people state this and wondering I if there's something we are missing

 

[Fariaia]

Yes I did ! The blood test was a few weeks after starting hcg/hmg. The test was posted a few pages back

Thanks brother just took a look. Its weird your LH/FSH came in the higher end, and on my exam it came <1. HCG and clomid are pharma so I wonder if that's a matter of body response/time or what...

 

[mrborat16]

Thanks brother just took a look. Its weird your LH/FSH came in the higher end, and on my exam it came <1. HCG and clomid are pharma so I wonder if that's a matter of body response/time or what...

My hcg/hmg could have been bunked from what I know. Came from india so..

 

[Jiobani]

Good to see your sperm count is getting back up there.

Me and the misses are in the same boat. +- trying to 9 months now but no success yet. Few times a late period, but no success.

I also did my sperm test and got results back today
Very fertile according the doctor with 41mil cells per ML with a load of 5ML. Mobility not super high at 32%. So this leaves me with a VCM of 66.7M fertile sperms per ejaculation).
I was told to just keep trying as there is nothing wrong.

I was still on tren in May, then went into TRT. Been steady on HCG for the full year(Also during tren cycle) and I added HMG in August. Everything I inject is sourced from QSC.

Currently:
200mg TRT
3x1000IU HCG per week
2x75IU HMG per week.

 

[mrborat16]

Good to see your sperm count is getting back up there.

Me and the misses are in the same boat. +- trying to 9 months now but no success yet. Few times a late period, but no success.

I also did my sperm test and got results back today
Very fertile according the doctor with 41mil cells per ML with a load of 5ML. Mobility not super high at 32%. So this leaves me with a VCM of 66.7M fertile sperms per ejaculation).
I was told to just keep trying as there is nothing wrong.

I was still on tren in May, then went into TRT. Been steady on HCG for the full year(Also during tren cycle) and I added HMG in August. Everything I inject is sourced from QSC.

Currently:
200mg TRT
3x1000IU HCG per week
2x75IU HMG per week.

Good luck man! how's your morphology? as for the 32% motility maybe try to add supplements if you're not on them already..

It sucks when everything seems normal/good but it still ain't happening.

 

[Fariaia]

Good to see your sperm count is getting back up there.

Me and the misses are in the same boat. +- trying to 9 months now but no success yet. Few times a late period, but no success.

I also did my sperm test and got results back today
Very fertile according the doctor with 41mil cells per ML with a load of 5ML. Mobility not super high at 32%. So this leaves me with a VCM of 66.7M fertile sperms per ejaculation).
I was told to just keep trying as there is nothing wrong.

I was still on tren in May, then went into TRT. Been steady on HCG for the full year(Also during tren cycle) and I added HMG in August. Everything I inject is sourced from QSC.

Currently:
200mg TRT
3x1000IU HCG per week
2x75IU HMG per week.

Great news brother. Did you test our LH/FSH and if so what was the result?

 

[HB_22]

So many info so many people everbody tells what works for them but will it work for you? We are all different

With all respect... Human biology is not that different from person to person. The problem is that there is way too much incorrect information on the internet, especially spread from self called "doctor" and gurus. Dave palumbo has no fucking clue what he is doing, his claims and recommendations are most of the time BS.

 

[Jiobani]

Good luck man! how's your morphology? as for the 32% motility maybe try to add supplements if you're not on them already..

It sucks when everything seems normal/good but it still ain't happening.

Ty dude! You too and hope it works out soon.
I'm hoping the mobility increases over time as I was still on Tren 5 months ago, and only added in hmg for 2,5 months. So I expect to only go up from here.
I'm taking my daily vitamines, so that should also help!
Below my lab results ( in dutch but should be explanitory). Under Viscosity, it is increased and that leads to lower ability to swim from what I was told.
Also mentioned in the comments chymotrypsin is added. Nothing was mentioned regarding that, but I think it is because i also use 3IU of HGH daily.

 

[mrborat16]

Ty dude! You too and hope it works out soon.
I'm hoping the mobility increases over time as I was still on Tren 5 months ago, and only added in hmg for 2,5 months. So I expect to only go up from here.
I'm taking my daily vitamines, so that should also help!
Below my lab results ( in dutch but should be explanitory). Under Viscosity, it is increased and that leads to lower ability to swim from what I was told.
Also mentioned in the comments chymotrypsin is added. Nothing was mentioned regarding that, but I think it is because i also use 3IU of HGH daily.
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I also have high viscosity. I'm not sure if its dehydration but the only thing other than drinking more water I do is to take mucinex close to ovulation. There's not a lot of study but I've read that it helps thin out the sperm. If you google mucinex sperm you'll get a bit more info incase you wanna try...

 

[strangegenericguy]

I also have high viscosity. I'm not sure if its dehydration but the only thing other than drinking more water I do is to take mucinex close to ovulation. There's not a lot of study but I've read that it helps thin out the sperm. If you google mucinex sperm you'll get a bit more info incase you wanna try...

hi bro, saw the topic some months ago...how is your fertility situation now ?

 

[Jiobani]

Great news brother. Did you test our LH/FSH and if so what was the result?

Thank you! didn't have a bloodtest for this. Last time I tested my bloods my LH/FSH was as low. This was during a cycle and I wasn't using HCG. To my knowledge ( I could be wrong), as i'm on TRT, LH/FSH wil come out low due to still supplementing with test.

I never expected to be completely infertile after B&C for about 8 years, but also didn't expect it to be this good. I wasn't really serious about kids when I was younger and didn't care about using HCG at all. I rarely used HCG, but have been consistently 3x per week now since the beginning of the year.

I do believe everyone will recover their fertility with the right protocol, unless you have some underlying problems that aren't AAS related.