Another REGAINING Fertility Log after 9 years of AAS

[mrborat16]

I’m in Canada also. Got off everything completely for over a year now ran enclomiphene 6 weeks and hcg for 8 weeks and everything’s fine again just test is 10 nmol. Sperms back up to normal. It takes time of being off everything plus a little kick to the pituitary to get things started again. Those home tests are nice but you want the lab to test them as they check motility and everything else

Yes I know, I've also had a real lab test on august 28th. Total count was 55 Mill and I was at 42% motility.

Only thing they found was abnormal was the high viscosity + morphology (2%)

Pretty sure If I do another test I'll be above normal range

 

[Isrrike]

Yes I know, I've also had a real lab test on august 28th. Total count was 55 Mill and I was at 42% motility.

Only thing they found was abnormal was the high viscosity + morphology (2%)

Pretty sure If I do another test I'll be above normal range

How many months have you been off everything ?

 

[mrborat16]

How many months have you been off everything ?

6 months and 23 days.

 

[TRENdy07]

6 months and 23 days.

We were around a year for our first child (I stayed on 100mg test with script FSH and hcg) We went to the fertility appointment and scheduled all the tests…. She tested positive the day after our appointment. It was crazy lol. Hang in there.

I worry the hmg isn’t as effective or at least the UG hmg isn’t as effective as my script to the compounding pharmacy was.

 

[TRENdy07]

Well…. My yo test was abysmal. Been on 75iu hmg and 1000iu hcg, mon, wed, Friday for about 8 months. Heavy blast cycle through the summer. Been on trt for 2 months. 150mg for a month and 100 for the past month. Guess it’s time to drop the test and start clomid.

 

[mrborat16]

Well…. My yo test was abysmal. Been on 75iu hmg and 1000iu hcg, mon, wed, Friday for about 8 months. Heavy blast cycle through the summer. Been on trt for 2 months. 150mg for a month and 100 for the past month. Guess it’s time to drop the test and start clomid.

did you see any sperm moving? I also tried to stay on test at the begining but even with moderate dose of hcg nothing was happening.

I think your best bet at this point is to drop test like you said. It sucks losing mass and feeling like shit but priority is family and it’s only temporary

You got this dude

 

[TRENdy07]

did you see any sperm moving? I also tried to stay on test at the begining but even with moderate dose of hcg nothing was happening.

I think your best bet at this point is to drop test like you said. It sucks losing mass and feeling like shit but priority is family and it’s only temporary

You got this dude

A few lol

 

[Slicknyc]

12,5mg every day for 4-8 weeks. You can do less if you dont feel well on it. Usually they come in 25mg tablets so you can split them up in either 2 or 4 parts depending on side effects and how you feel. For some it can make a drastic difference if they take it in the evening before sleep in regards to sides.

Sorry to jump in late but what are your thoughts on enclomipene vs CLOMID for this? long term moderate steroid user and have been completely off for 10 weeks. Haven’t used anything at all and about to get blood work done. Was thinking of starting with enclomiphene at 12.5mg per day and then have a semen analysis in 3 months. I just wanted to be completely off of everything for at least 3 months so that I can get the most accurate baseline.

 

[Slicknyc]

Yes!

I've attached the progression going from March until september.

This thread is excellent brother. I’m still reading through it but love this post.

 

[Slicknyc]

We were around a year for our first child (I stayed on 100mg test with script FSH and hcg) We went to the fertility appointment and scheduled all the tests…. She tested positive the day after our appointment. It was crazy lol. Hang in there.

I worry the hmg isn’t as effective or at least the UG hmg isn’t as effective as my script to the compounding pharmacy was.

You were able to get a script for HMG from one of these online places? What did they charge you for the HMG?

 

[BrockSamson42]

I was going to say try enclomiphene too, seems to be more potent. As far as HMG goes I've seen people using the combination and had some success.

So OP , not that it'd anyone's business but can you mark what cycles you took at what dosages (that you recall) ? Some guys blast a decade and have kids, can't imagine you aren't capable.

 

[mrborat16]

I was going to say try enclomiphene too, seems to be more potent. As far as HMG goes I've seen people using the combination and had some success.

So OP , not that it'd anyone's business but can you mark what cycles you took at what dosages (that you recall) ? Some guys blast a decade and have kids, can't imagine you aren't capable.

Used between 2014-2016 (test, tren, deca, npp, tbol, superdrol, var) I can’t tell you the dosage but I was reckless.

Since 2017 I have only took test with anavar.

Test was always used between 150mg to max 500mg per week. I was cruising on test the last 3 years at 150-200mg since var gave me bad migraines.

So I started off with high blast almost 10 years ago but learned that less is better along the way.

After 6 months off test my body looks like shit to our bodyboarding standards ( lost the 3d shoulders look) but I’m fine with it. The passion for lifting weights is 0 right now but I still try to get a few lifting sessions in the week.

Once my girlfriend is pregnant I’ll see if I need to go back on TRT but I’m thinking waiting until we’re done with children’s to jump back in. The process was really long and tedious I don’t think I could do it again.

 

[TRENdy07]

You were able to get a script for HMG from one of these online places? What did they charge you for the HMG?

I got a FSH script through my dr. We used a compounding pharmacy that was out of state. I can’t remember the pharmacy name. It was very expensive. I can’t remember the dosage I was taking but it worked out to be $700 every 6-8 weeks and I was taking a pretty low dose. I’m currently using hmg from QSC with no way to tell if it’s very good or not.

 

[gdoggydog05]

I have 2 months worth from Turkish pharmacies but it seems that’s over now. Does anyone know anywhere else to get pharma / international hmg ? Would get qsc but I hate it can’t be tested.

Any sides to worry about ? Just starting. I know what anywheee from 500 iu to 5000
Iu of Hcg feels like so if it’s similar. That’s fine

 

[BrockSamson42]

HMG really can't be tested ? That can't be right, otherwise how would the researches know in studies if it was even Dosed correctly ? Or had any Hmg at all ?

 

[mochul]

HMG really can't be tested ? That can't be right, otherwise how would the researches know in studies if it was even Dosed correctly ? Or had any Hmg at all ?

It can not be done with jano. requires apparently advanced apparatus

 

[Lifting88]

It seems that there's soooo many informations regarding fertility protocol after/during AAS or TRT on the web/studies. Why I decided to still take clomid at high dosage is just because I trust Dave palumbo protocol.

So many info so many people everbody tells what works for them but will it work for you? We are all different

I had 8 milion swimmers before i start hcg and doc put me on hcg and i went back to zero in 3 months

 

[mrborat16]

So many info so many people everbody tells what works for them but will it work for you? We are all different

I had 8 milion swimmers before i start hcg and doc put me on hcg and i went back to zero in 3 months

Yes you're right. Have you tried clomid or enclo yet? worth a shot if HCG didn't work and you're off T

 

[Lifting88]

Yes you're right. Have you tried clomid or enclo yet? worth a shot if HCG didn't work and you're off T

Going off everthing was the best for me
Clomid raised my fsh sky high

i did ivf and my girl is pregnant now

But don t keep changing you protocol but stay on 1 protocol for 4 months then test if it works or not...if not change but of semen is good stay on your protocol till shes pregnant

 

[mrborat16]

I think I'm set on stopping clomid and just be off everything. (been of it for almost 6 months)
I had no clomid sides at the begining but now it's popping off and really getting annoying.

Really hope that my numbers won't change too much. If anyone thinks this is a bad idea feel free to tell me why.

Cycle 11 now and ovulation is next week.