Are pre workouts just trash these days?

Cialis 20mg and citrulline malate 8-10g. for insane pumps!
For sure. I usually dose the Cialis around 12 mg using the liquid. Seems to work fast and is enough for pwo. That Gorilla Mode has 5,000mg Citrulline per scoop. Those plus the Var and caffeine is a great combo….and yet somehow still isn’t as strong as the original Jack3d lol
 
For sure. I usually dose the Cialis around 12 mg using the liquid. Seems to work fast and is enough for pwo. That Gorilla Mode has 5,000mg Citrulline per scoop. Those plus the Var and caffeine is a great combo….and yet somehow still isn’t as strong as the original Jack3d lol
Jack3d had meth’s first cousin in the original formula, lol. I don’t think any pre workout will ever come close.
 
Not a bad combination of drugs, and how does it feel to you personally?
Feels clean, non jittery, and lasts long enough to get through 1.5 - 2 hour session no problem. No crash at all and I normally take it around 5pm.

I go against conventional wisdom and do my cardio first…always have. More of a mental thing for me. Normally I’ll do 15-20 minutes. But on this combo I’ll usually bump it up to at least 30 minutes and fucking love every minute of it. When I’m done I still feel like my battery is at least 95%. Great combo for cutting.
 
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Jack3d had meth’s first cousin in the original formula, lol. I don’t think any pre workout will ever come close.
Lmao. That stuff used to get me shadow boxing and shit in between sets for no good reason at all. I remember after some poor bastard died using it there was warning signs at the store I used and they locked it up.
 
Feels clean, non jittery, and lasts long enough to get through 1.5 - 2 hour session no problem. No crash at all and I normally take it around 5pm.

I go against conventional wisdom and do my cardio first…always have. More of a mental thing for me. Normally I’ll do 15-20 minutes. But on this combo I’ll usually bump it up to at least 30 minutes and fucking love every minute of it. When I’m done I still feel like my battery is at least 95%. Great combo for cutting.
I really liked cardio myself, but at some point in time I got too carried away with it and overloaded my head. And now it's very difficult to do it.
 
Anyone remember the orange powder from the 90s-2000s? Can’t remember the name now. Had a coach that made the whole team take a scoop before practice everyday, and it made me puke every single time. The good old days lol
 
I really liked cardio myself, but at some point in time I got too carried away with it and overloaded my head. And now it's very difficult to do it.
I hear ya. I do have to change it up a bit and it can be addictive. I’ve just got to where’s it’s like my pre-routine and since I do it first I’m always wanting to preserve the majority of energy for my lifts in the forefront of my mind
 
Anyone remember the orange powder from the 90s-2000s? Can’t remember the name now. Had a coach that made the whole team take a scoop before practice everyday, and it made me puke every single time. The good old days lol
Ultimate Orange. The original formula that was out in the 90's was legit. Had both caffeine and ephedra and a litany of other ingredients.
 
I hear ya. I do have to change it up a bit and it can be addictive. I’ve just got to where’s it’s like my pre-routine and since I do it first I’m always wanting to preserve the majority of energy for my lifts in the forefront of my mind
Great plan, I'm sure you'll be successful.
 
Ultimate Orange. The original formula that was out in the 90's was legit. Had both caffeine and ephedra and a litany of other ingredients.
That’s it, and it sure as hell was. Instant jitters and immediate puking…and then it was go time . I can still smell and taste it. Glad my coach cared enough about us to feed us all ephedra at 7am every day.
 
That’s it, and it sure as hell was. Instant jitters and immediate puking…and then it was go time . I can still smell and taste it. Glad my coach cared enough about us to feed us all ephedra at 7am every day.
Was the first preworkout I ever tried. I was only like 16 lol. But a full dose of Ultimate Orange would have you cleaning your roof at 9pm lol

not sure if it was more about ingredients or just my virgin receptors but it was so fun. Sadly, that was also about the start of couple decades of substance abuse. All good now though and back searching for that holy grail of a preworkout.

some of y’all have never heard of OG Craze and Excelsior and it shows. Some of these formulas y’all mention are straight garbage. Save yourself the money and get some EC instead of some of this crap.
 
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