Interesting, so the left is saying that the right is getting their base all riled up with the fear of islamic terrorism. Meanwhile, the left is getting their base all riled up with this false racism narrative.
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Are you ok with Muslim refugees moving in next to you in the US?
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tenpoundsleft
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Why don't you enlighten us as to the other religions that systematically preach violence and hate, condone and encourage heinous massacres?
I can only think of Islam. Come on, enlighten me. And don't go back hundreds or thousands of years in time.
Sworder
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Since when did Islam stand for violence and hate, condone and encourage heinous massacres?
Your "proof" is because some crazy idiots have done something and said allah akbar while doing so?
I know many Muslims that are.. Wait for it.. Normal..
But....! Why don't you share your first-hand experience beyond what your brainwashed stupid ass saw on the news?
I assume you would be the type of guy that would run and Kill all Muslims, seeming how "dangerous." You really don't realize that you, and people whom think like you, are on the other side of the crazy spectrum. The crazy White Ying of the crazy Muslim Yangs.
Your "proof" is because some crazy idiots have done something and said allah akbar while doing so?
I know many Muslims that are.. Wait for it.. Normal..
But....! Why don't you share your first-hand experience beyond what your brainwashed stupid ass saw on the news?
I assume you would be the type of guy that would run and Kill all Muslims, seeming how "dangerous." You really don't realize that you, and people whom think like you, are on the other side of the crazy spectrum. The crazy White Ying of the crazy Muslim Yangs.
If muslims are peaceful, hard working people then why are we bringing them over here? Could it be because muslims are running around chopping peoples heads off? Sure, there's 1.6 billion muslims in the world and most are peaceful, but millions of them are in favor of what isis is doing. That's millions of them. Do you think most americans were in favor of the iraq war? If your answer is no, that a small minority plus some corrupt politicians then does that mean america wasn't at war with iraq just because it's a small percentage of americans wanted war? We may not be at war with islam, but a whole hell of a lot of muslims are at war with us. If i was an iraqi it wouldn't be honest of me to say all americans want to see me dead, but that doesn't mean america is not at war with iraq. So saying a small percentage of muslims are terrorist or hold that ideology of the terrorists, but that doesn't matter when we're talking tens of millions of muslims do want to see us dead. And just because you wouldn't mind seeing Syrian refugees moving in next door to you shouldn't mean that you get to choose the same fate for the next guy who may mind. It's his family your speaking for and gambling with.
Sworder
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If "Muslims" are peaceful? I don't think I have stated so. With stating that "I don't think I stated so," doesn't mean that I think they are violent either. I am a simple guy so let me try to express this in a simple way. You see, there are a lot of steroid users, some of them have killed people while on steroids. So if you would ask me, if steroid users are killers. I would say, some people have used steroids and killed people. Steroid users are not killers, however, there are idiot steroid users that have killed people. If you would try to think of Muslims that way, and pretty much everything else in the world in which you are trying to paint with a broad brush, it will make your life easier. Maybe not easier, but you wouldn't seem so fucking stupid.
I think that Americans were in favor of whatever media wanted them to be in favor of.
Where are you getting this from? xD
How have you felt the tragedy of the "Muslim war on you/America."
Why would you be an Iraqi now? Aren't we talking about Muslims? Or do you feel a greater threat from Iraqi Muslims? And again, why do you feel this way? I mean if you were an Iraqi, at least there would be a chance that the US came and bombed your house, killed your baby, or maybe raped your wife. Nah just kidding, US soldiers would never do those things.
Ok so let me get this straight... And follow me on this one. You are telling me. There are about 10 million Muslim terrorists that want to kill Americans(or anybody who isn't Muslim) and our current news feed is filled with how many killings this year?
Sometimes it's not what you see, it's what you don't see. But maybe there really are 10 million Muslim terrorists who devote their lives to kill non-Muslims, maybe they are really bad at killing people. Maybe there aren't enough weapons out there, you can't just kill a person with a knife I mean, Japan has proved that. Hmm... Maybe there aren't enough non-Muslims in the world for them to kill? So that's why the death toll is so low? Would you agree that if there are 10 million Muslims that are "Allah Akbar gung-ho want-to-kill-me-some-non-Muslims" they are surely doing a shitty job?
California gangs kill more people than those 10 million Muslim terrorists do. But.. I guess that isn't in your news feed.
Who would have known there are things that don't show up on the news so if you put what you see in the news as the center of the universe you will end up with a twisted mind. And this may be haunting to hear, you are a prime example of it. 
And using your logic of "just because you don't mind a Syrian family moving in next door" I want to pose you a question. What if, what if a Syrian family moved in next door to you, instead of a pedophile? I mean somebody has to move in next to you right? Or what about a meth addict? Or a gang banger? I don't know what neighborhood you live in, but I don't think the Syrian refugees are going to be housed in Orange county so you have to kind of keep that in mind too don't ya? Or that would be too open-minded?
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If "Muslims" are peaceful? I don't think I have stated so. With stating that "I don't think I stated so," doesn't mean that I think they are violent either. I am a simple guy so let me try to express this in a simple way. You see, there are a lot of steroid users, some of them have killed people while on steroids. So if you would ask me, if steroid users are killers. I would say, some people have used steroids and killed people. Steroid users are not killers, however, there are idiot steroid users that have killed people. If you would try to think of Muslims that way, and pretty much everything else in the world in which you are trying to paint with a broad brush, it will make your life easier. Maybe not easier, but you wouldn't seem so fucking stupid.
I think that Americans were in favor of whatever media wanted them to be in favor of.
Where are you getting this from? xD
How have you felt the tragedy of the "Muslim war on you/America."
Why would you be an Iraqi now? Aren't we talking about Muslims? Or do you feel a greater threat from Iraqi Muslims? And again, why do you feel this way? I mean if you were an Iraqi, at least there would be a chance that the US came and bombed your house, killed your baby, or maybe raped your wife. Nah just kidding, US soldiers would never do those things.
Ok so let me get this straight... And follow me on this one. You are telling me. There are about 10 million Muslim terrorists that want to kill Americans(or anybody who isn't Muslim) and our current news feed is filled with how many killings this year?
Sometimes it's not what you see, it's what you don't see. But maybe there really are 10 million Muslim terrorists who devote their lives to kill non-Muslims, maybe they are really bad at killing people. Maybe there aren't enough weapons out there, you can't just kill a person with a knife I mean, Japan has proved that. Hmm... Maybe there aren't enough non-Muslims in the world for them to kill? So that's why the death toll is so low? Would you agree that if there are 10 million Muslims that are "Allah Akbar gung-ho want-to-kill-me-some-non-Muslims" they are surely doing a shitty job?
California gangs kill more people than those 10 million Muslim terrorists do. But.. I guess that isn't in your news feed.
And using your logic of "just because you don't mind a Syrian family moving in next door" I want to pose you a question. What if, what if a Syrian family moved in next door to you, instead of a pedophile? I mean somebody has to move in next to you right? Or what about a meth addict? Or a gang banger? I don't know what neighborhood you live in, but I don't think the Syrian refugees are going to be housed in Orange county so you have to kind of keep that in mind too don't ya? Or that would be too open-minded?
How was your stay at the hospital, Sworder? I see you left before they had a chance to adjust your medications and complete the frontal lobotomy. I guess there's always a next time.
Sworder
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My stay wasn't too much fun. I don't know if you have been, but it's actually more like a brothel. Where we have to dance and do a bunch of weird stuff, NO HOMO!
I recently saw a Bostin Lloyd video on Youtube where he talking about all the shit talkers on the internet. Guess who actually got their 15 minutes of fame? It was you! Now, who would have guessed that all you do on the internet is talk shit?
Either way, I have been busy working. Trying to make millions of dollars you know. Got a stray cat that I took in. I call him Stranger..
My stay wasn't too much fun. I don't know if you have been, but it's actually more like a brothel. Where we have to dance and do a bunch of weird stuff, NO HOMO!
I recently saw a Bostin Lloyd video on Youtube where he talking about all the shit talkers on the internet. Guess who actually got their 15 minutes of fame? It was you! Now, who would have guessed that all you do on the internet is talk shit?
Either way, I have been busy working. Trying to make millions of dollars you know. Got a stray cat that I took in. I call him Stranger..
Been so long since ive seen you post, i thought you were gone for good.
Kinda like old times,you and CBS going back and forth, i think you guys might be on the verge of ( dare i say) a breakthrough moment in which the two of you become besties[emoji4]
Sworder
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I don't always post, but I am always watching.
I'm going off of stats that were done from research not news. Tens of millions of muslims agree with isis and what they are doing. Thats a lot no matter how you slice it. And your arguments have huge flaws. If the government said "we're gonna take in huge amounts of meth heads from other countries and move them next door to you" i would have a problem with that. Even if the left wing media tried to tell me how good they are and how hard working they are. Insert the word gang bangers with pedophiles or whatever negative connotation . They are from another country and there is a huge risk associated with it. We don't owe them anything. It's funny how the left will be quick to say we're spending to much money over there and we shouldn't be over there, but then they'll say we should bring them all over here. Our own intelligence leaders are the ones saying that isis will be infiltrating as these refugees. Our cia director, homeland security director, fbi director, etc, etc. You make it sound like a small number of muslims agree with the isis mentality when these same peoples are conquering entire countries not to mention these terrorist attacks are happening every day now. But the answer this administration has for defeating islamic terrorism is we should give them jobs. Funny.If "Muslims" are peaceful? I don't think I have stated so. With stating that "I don't think I stated so," doesn't mean that I think they are violent either. I am a simple guy so let me try to express this in a simple way. You see, there are a lot of steroid users, some of them have killed people while on steroids. So if you would ask me, if steroid users are killers. I would say, some people have used steroids and killed people. Steroid users are not killers, however, there are idiot steroid users that have killed people. If you would try to think of Muslims that way, and pretty much everything else in the world in which you are trying to paint with a broad brush, it will make your life easier. Maybe not easier, but you wouldn't seem so fucking stupid.
I think that Americans were in favor of whatever media wanted them to be in favor of.
Where are you getting this from? xD
How have you felt the tragedy of the "Muslim war on you/America."
Why would you be an Iraqi now? Aren't we talking about Muslims? Or do you feel a greater threat from Iraqi Muslims? And again, why do you feel this way? I mean if you were an Iraqi, at least there would be a chance that the US came and bombed your house, killed your baby, or maybe raped your wife. Nah just kidding, US soldiers would never do those things.
Ok so let me get this straight... And follow me on this one. You are telling me. There are about 10 million Muslim terrorists that want to kill Americans(or anybody who isn't Muslim) and our current news feed is filled with how many killings this year?
Sometimes it's not what you see, it's what you don't see. But maybe there really are 10 million Muslim terrorists who devote their lives to kill non-Muslims, maybe they are really bad at killing people. Maybe there aren't enough weapons out there, you can't just kill a person with a knife I mean, Japan has proved that. Hmm... Maybe there aren't enough non-Muslims in the world for them to kill? So that's why the death toll is so low? Would you agree that if there are 10 million Muslims that are "Allah Akbar gung-ho want-to-kill-me-some-non-Muslims" they are surely doing a shitty job?
California gangs kill more people than those 10 million Muslim terrorists do. But.. I guess that isn't in your news feed.
And using your logic of "just because you don't mind a Syrian family moving in next door" I want to pose you a question. What if, what if a Syrian family moved in next door to you, instead of a pedophile? I mean somebody has to move in next to you right? Or what about a meth addict? Or a gang banger? I don't know what neighborhood you live in, but I don't think the Syrian refugees are going to be housed in Orange county so you have to kind of keep that in mind too don't ya? Or that would be too open-minded?
tenpoundsleft
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Of course there are nonviolent Muslims, but the religion (ideology really) as such has been belligerent and oppressive since its creation.
You're the one with anecdotal experiences of pleasant Muslims, but somehow you manage to turn a blind eye to the bigger picture. Incomprehensible how you can be such an apologetic.
You also avoided my challenge to state which other religion actively espouses violence and oppression.
tenpoundsleft
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If "Muslims" are peaceful? I don't think I have stated so. With stating that "I don't think I stated so," doesn't mean that I think they are violent either. I am a simple guy so let me try to express this in a simple way. You see, there are a lot of steroid users, some of them have killed people while on steroids. So if you would ask me, if steroid users are killers. I would say, some people have used steroids and killed people. Steroid users are not killers, however, there are idiot steroid users that have killed people. If you would try to think of Muslims that way, and pretty much everything else in the world in which you are trying to paint with a broad brush, it will make your life easier. Maybe not easier, but you wouldn't seem so fucking stupid.
I think that Americans were in favor of whatever media wanted them to be in favor of.
Where are you getting this from? xD
How have you felt the tragedy of the "Muslim war on you/America."
Why would you be an Iraqi now? Aren't we talking about Muslims? Or do you feel a greater threat from Iraqi Muslims? And again, why do you feel this way? I mean if you were an Iraqi, at least there would be a chance that the US came and bombed your house, killed your baby, or maybe raped your wife. Nah just kidding, US soldiers would never do those things.
Ok so let me get this straight... And follow me on this one. You are telling me. There are about 10 million Muslim terrorists that want to kill Americans(or anybody who isn't Muslim) and our current news feed is filled with how many killings this year?
Sometimes it's not what you see, it's what you don't see. But maybe there really are 10 million Muslim terrorists who devote their lives to kill non-Muslims, maybe they are really bad at killing people. Maybe there aren't enough weapons out there, you can't just kill a person with a knife I mean, Japan has proved that. Hmm... Maybe there aren't enough non-Muslims in the world for them to kill? So that's why the death toll is so low? Would you agree that if there are 10 million Muslims that are "Allah Akbar gung-ho want-to-kill-me-some-non-Muslims" they are surely doing a shitty job?
California gangs kill more people than those 10 million Muslim terrorists do. But.. I guess that isn't in your news feed.
And using your logic of "just because you don't mind a Syrian family moving in next door" I want to pose you a question. What if, what if a Syrian family moved in next door to you, instead of a pedophile? I mean somebody has to move in next to you right? Or what about a meth addict? Or a gang banger? I don't know what neighborhood you live in, but I don't think the Syrian refugees are going to be housed in Orange county so you have to kind of keep that in mind too don't ya? Or that would be too open-minded?
Idiotic comparison with steroid users, but liberals tend to animate the inanimate. Ref the so-called "gun violence" nonsense.
There's no Holy Church of Steroidology that preaches death to all natties 5x per day. That's what Islam does regarding us infidels.
Sworder
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I don't turn a blind eye to it, however, I take it for what it is worth. I do not feel the threat is real to me. Why does nobody want to state why they are so concerned? Any first-hand experience with a Muslim or perhaps admitting that what you see and hear on the news makes you scared.
Yes, I failed to answer your question about what other religion spews violence, mainly because I don't feel that Islam does so. There are many things in the bible which Christians ignore to follow and I think the Quran is read in the same way. Take the good and leave the bad.
Do you really believe that the Muslims are preaching to kill all infidels? And I posed the question earlier, if that is the case and they are taking this seriously don't you think that the death toll is pretty darn low from "tens of millions of terrorists?"
Sworder
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My point with the whole next door neighbor thing is that there are bad Americans as well. I don't know if you missed that whole point, I wasn't talking about only foreigners coming here.
You sound scared. Do you think it was Usama Bin Laden that was behind 9/11?
tenpoundsleft
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It's absolutely a death cult.
In EVERY nation in the world that has Muslims, once they attain critical mass, it goes to hell in a handbasket in a hurry. Fact.
Sure, while below a few percentage points of the overall population, they're like interesting scorpions in a glass aquarium, living a separate life, observable and not causing harm.
Once they go north of 5% you have problems, and once they reach 10% to 20% you have serious issues. Just look at statistics.
This is not a religion, it's a holistic political, philosophical, and legal framework. One that is utterly incompatible with modern enlightened western societies.
If you don't get the above, I can only assume that you're a Muslim who is attempting to obfuscate the issues.
Point was not missed it was just a silly point. Because we have trash we should be obligated to take on the worlds trash.
And I'm not scared. I'm just a realist. There are concrete facts that show how many Muslims in the world have a shared view with isis and other extremists. Your media chooses to downplay those facts. You choose to downplay those facts. Like i said, there are countries being conquered by those muslim extremists that don't exist. There are terrorist attacks being commited every day by those muslim extremists that don't exist. Thousands of muslim extremists (that don't exist) were marching from state to state chopping heads off in the name of their islamic religion. Nothing to see here.
Sworder
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You refer to statistics a lot but do not provide any... Also, what facts?
I like to call myself a realist as well. And you are concerned that Muslims will be roaming the streets of America and chop people's heads off or suicide bombing will be a common thing here in the United States?
The main thing I don't agree is how you guys are saying that Muslims are bad people. I feel that is a very ignorant and unfair thing to say. Secondly, that Islam is a violent religion. There are good and bad things with all religions. But I don't know, I have personal experience from having Muslim friends and you have your TV and internet.
tenpoundsleft
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You refer to statistics a lot but do not provide any... Also, what facts?
I like to call myself a realist as well. And you are concerned that Muslims will be roaming the streets of America and chop people's heads off or suicide bombing will be a common thing here in the United States?
The main thing I don't agree is how you guys are saying that Muslims are bad people. I feel that is a very ignorant and unfair thing to say. Secondly, that Islam is a violent religion. There are good and bad things with all religions. But I don't know, I have personal experience from having Muslim friends and you have your TV and internet.
We're not saying all Muslims are "bad" people - at least I'm not - we're saying that Islam as such is an inherently oppressive, intolerant, and belligerent "religion" (it's actually a comprehensive socio-econo-political and judicial system) that is utterly incompatible with modern western societies.
Take a look at this - stats from 2007 - pay attention to how (as the Muslim percentage of population increases) the country becomes a hell-hole that no sane person would like to visit.
We're still OK in the US, because the Muslim count is fairly low.
" Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’ When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table.
Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)):
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States ).
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons."
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