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DECLAN said:
Get off your high horse because their is nothing of use that can be picked up from your profanity laden tirade.

Even if your doctor messed up prescribing you ai which destroyed your estrogen levels, you still continued injecting testosterone and added another compound without any medical intervention.

The most rational thing a sane person would do is step back stop using all the drugs and get a second opinion, find the root cause and get proper treatment. But, no like a true addict, you self prescribed and cannot stop injecting even at the cost of your health.

You know why most of us don't blame ai or aas for our medical issues? Because we back off or stop and let a medical professional help us. Don't act like you did everything right, you're one of the reasons why aas is viewed as a dangerous substance by the public. Ignoramus at its peak, damn.
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lmao. a guy taking half mg estrogen a day gives aas a bad name??? but not the dummies blasting thousands upon thousands mg aas a week??? your the fucking ignoramus. you wernt good at math in school were you?? nor reading
 
dafqu1 said:
i feel u bro i get the same frustration when i try to help people tell them about stuff. Its how it always is though and what you're saying will never be acknowledged until it happens to hundreds of thousands and theres a lawsuit. Always the same thing with drugs, people love to suck on big pharma and doctors nuts too cuz the "science" and the illusion of the profesional is more comfortable....until they gret screwed by something themselves. Ill be avoiding aramosin from now on tho u didnt completely waste ur time appreciated.
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thank you brother. i wish you luck
 
Coconutz said:

its funny all you internet doctors giving psych advice pushing pills. big pharma strokers here. ill stick with my bioidentical hormones.

i appreciate the diagnoses doc. but a half mg a day of estrogen is going to be exponentially less damaging to the body than those perscription drugs you listed. how do you think those will affect the body until infinity? i mean theres guys here blasing grams and grams of gear justifying THAT? come on now. lets use a little common sense now.. loll. but thats safe right?? have you went on the excelmale.com boards i told you about seeing all the others guys getting prescribed estrogen by doctors?? probly not.

the only thing thats pure madness, is the closed minded juiced up bros here that cant research shit. theres PLENTY of civil conversation about this there, which i initially attempted here. im just back posting another study you dickheads. enjoy it, if yall can even read it
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I'm probably one of the most anti aas, health and safety minded people on this board mate. I'm well aware of excelmale and seldom frequent that forum. I'm also quite read and educated around anxiety dissorder's, HPA axis dysfunctions and how they interconnect to hormones, aas, neurosteroids and mineral glucocorticoid ballance, etc.

You're being overly defensive. Which is understandable but you're not seeing the whole picture and in regards to our discourse, unfortunately you're the undereducated dickhead who is stuffing him self with exogenous hormones, I'm currently natty.

Estrogen has a slew of systemic effects, effecting neurotransmitter levels, receptor expressions/function, mineral ballance, HPA axis function, etc. So as you can imagine, one can effectively treat some conditions with exogenous estrogen, but this conditions would have nothing to do with your estrogen levels actually being low. You should educate yourself further and you should determine 1. if your e2 is actually low and if not, find out the real cause of your issues and treat it accordingly - and if e2 is low, find out why. I don't understand why you don't want to do bloods? If it was me I would have done probably 10 different e2 bloods, trying to corelate my peripheral e2 levels with my symptoms. But idk wth you are doing ...

Also, you are severely underestimating estrogens impact on the male physiology, especially brain physiology and to the educated reading your replies, you look like a fool doing so. Your erratic behaviour is also not helping you, but you're probably well aware of this.

Have a look at how e2 effects anxiety and why it could be potentially anxiolytic. Have a look at neurosteroids, like allopregnanolone and how e2 effects it's metabolism (did you know e2 can raise cns allo levels?). Also, have you any idea how an anxiety disorder can potentially cause either low e2 levels or low e2 levels type symptoms through mineral glucocorticoid "imbalance"? Do you even know what a freagging action potential is or a chemical gradient? How about a potassium pump? Anything in regards to membrane hyperexcitability? Any idea on how electrolytes play into it and how a HPA axis dysfunction might effect it? How about adrenals? Have you checked any blood serum markers?

You are infact the one acting like an aas abusing dickhead, you have zero idea about how complex the human body actually is and like a typical aas abusing dickhead is blaming everything on estrogen. "I have anxiety bro, what's up?", "Must be your estrogen bro!" The irony, am I right?

Do bloods you dickhead! Take something for anxiety. I don't care if it's from pharma or if it's a herbal adaptogen, it has the potential to work. Especially some adaptogens can have a big impact on mineral glucocorticoid ballance, you might be surprised ...
 
Coconutz said:
did ya miss me you fucking idiots????

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Also, wht are you tring to prove with this study? Ofc estrogen has an effect on the CVS ... Are you an idiot? Ofc giving estrogen to Untreated hypogonadal men, meaning they aren't receiving any testosterone and thus have crushed estrogen, is going to improve cvs parameters. And how exactly is this helping your argument? You really do have zero idea about what you're talking about, right?
 
Coconutz said:
thank you brother. i wish you luck
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Dude I’m not saying this to be a dick, you sound unhinged in your post.
As I mentioned in the previous thread where you first brought this up, taking a period of prolonged abstinence from all hormones might allow you to reset and heal your system.
At least then get an accurate assessment of whatever damage there actually is and go from there. The options you are using for treatment now will still be there to go back to if no profess is made.

I’d strongly urge you to take at least six months minimum. Yes, it will be difficult. Things that yield good results are often difficult. But if you could get back to a place where you need less drugs, and aren’t tinkering with your hormones so much it would definitely be worth it.
 
Coconutz said:

its funny all you internet doctors giving psych advice pushing pills. big pharma strokers here. ill stick with my bioidentical hormones.

i appreciate the diagnoses doc. but a half mg a day of estrogen is going to be exponentially less damaging to the body than those perscription drugs you listed. how do you think those will affect the body until infinity? i mean theres guys here blasing grams and grams of gear justifying THAT? come on now. lets use a little common sense now.. loll. but thats safe right?? have you went on the excelmale.com boards i told you about seeing all the others guys getting prescribed estrogen by doctors?? probly not.

the only thing thats pure madness, is the closed minded juiced up bros here that cant research shit. theres PLENTY of civil conversation about this there, which i initially attempted here. im just back posting another study you dickheads. enjoy it, if yall can even read it
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big pharma duhhhh i will stick to my chinese underground bathmade bioidentical hormones
 
Coconutz said:
lmao. a guy taking half mg estrogen a day gives aas a bad name??? but not the dummies blasting thousands upon thousands mg aas a week??? your the fucking ignoramus. you wernt good at math in school were you?? nor reading
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Don’t listen to their text book crap.
We’d all be in the same boat if we needed to for whatever reason.
 
I am just waiting that our angry princess will come back and explain us how can I use that feeling thing for my next cycle.I will take as manh different aas I can find and wake up in the morning and decide then how the cycle should should start but I think the base should be estrogen.I mean look at her she speaks so nice,doesn't get angry with anybody and if we suggest anything we are stupid.I am just waiting that she answers and I hope ican get her attention this time but only if she feels it
 
Question Where are you getting the estradiol asking for my wife thanks. Also is it ugl or script??? No insurance atm so looking for some that’s not international..
 
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