Asia pharma.

Millard, I have a better question. Why are you allowing them to spam the hell out of your board and post useless dribble and questionable advice to members.
 
Millard, I have a better question. Why are you allowing them to spam the hell out of your board and post useless dribble and questionable advice to members.

Spam with links to external sites promoting the sale of anabolic steroids is prohibited. All such posts are promptly deleted when detected. IF any posts currently exist on the forum, please notify the admin and/or moderator.

Bad advice and "dribble" is another thing altogether and beyond the scope of moderators' duties.

I don't think this requires intervention on the part of mods or admins because who are we to be the final arbiters of who is right and who is wrong?

Members earn their credibility and reputation based on the advice they give and information they provide.

Those who regularly dispense bad advice are called out and their reputation/credibility is diminished.

I think this system has worked effectively on MESO and many other forums for years. No need to censor ignorance or stupidity. It takes care of itself.
 
I think he's distinguishing AP from AP resellers.

Just like Organon and Organon resellers, etc.

E.g. Lots of companies will ship Sustanon to U.S. residents. It doen't mean Organon is doing it nor that Organon is violating U.S. law as a result.

The issue in this case is whether the manufacturer is taking the necessary steps to prevent illegal pharmaceutical diversion.


Problem is that people on this board are making fun of legitimate company that had products registered at 2 FDA ( none in USA agree) but one in country where products are registered at,
English is official language ( same as on Meso) and as there is so much negative childish spam on your board about Ap brand it harms reputation.
Mostly of jokes are how poor quality AP and how labs are poor underground. I proved you wrong with Thai FDA link.

No manufacturer can do much against illegal re-sale of their products to countries where import permit is required. Especially small generic like AP with limited budget.
Good examples are Schering- Oganon in Pakistan or India or British Dispensary in Thialand.
It is possible to limit illegal sale just in countries where prescription for anabolics is required.
 
why do they advertise here in the U.S. then. and I know for fact that they have sold to U.S. residents illegally...so shut up about that...they will get busted if they keep doing that..enough said..

Can you give me 1 prove that ap dot com is advertising sale/ship to USA? or any offer from any person that uses email @ap and sells to any country where ap products are not registered at local fda? NO - because they don't.
 
Problem is that people on this board are making fun of legitimate company that had products registered at 2 FDA ( none in USA agree) but one in country where products are registered at,
English is official language ( same as on Meso) and as there is so much negative childish spam on your board about Ap brand it harms reputation.
Mostly of jokes are how poor quality AP and how labs are poor underground. I proved you wrong with Thai FDA link.

No manufacturer can do much against illegal re-sale of their products to countries where import permit is required. Especially small generic like AP with limited budget.
Good examples are Schering- Oganon in Pakistan or India or British Dispensary in Thialand.
It is possible to limit illegal sale just in countries where prescription for anabolics is required.

I have never argued that AP was not a registered company so you don't need to convince me.

It is the members who have been subjected to the thinly veiled AP-related spam by a specific poster.

This one person has single-handedly done more to harm the AP brand on MESO than anyone else.

This is unfortunate because it predisposed numerous people against AP, based not upon the quality of the products or legitimacy of the company, but on the actions of that single person.
 
I dont think many peeps here have trashed the quality in of itself, but the spam of resellers and users... AP, im guessing is allowing resellers and their advertising...hell they advertise wanting and needing more resellers. take world pharma .. they have sold to u.s. and spammed. same as pharma eu. and AP knows that..

btw you and other AP croonies say ugl is always dangerous and dont use..sure some are..but those that are tried and true arent.... take thailand... damn there a third world country, slave child labor, very dirty, child prostitution where the government really doesnt do much...poor country, animal sacrifices, and we should trust the thai government exclusively where if they say its ok, hell it must be...I dont think so... that goes for other country's including some business in the U.S. and if anyone wants to pay those prices hell, more power to them... I wont..
 
I am not sure if Bigkarch's statement was directed at me, but as we all know with certain ugl's some groups are good, others are not, as a safety rule i say for individuals, I always tell them to get good quality pharm gear. Now I'm not saying ugl is bad, there are some groups out there with products that are just as good as H.G, but then there are a few groups that produce a product even better, but a lot of newbies first posting in here usually don't have the knowledge or do the research to find out if what they are getting is good gear. And safety should be one of our concerns we stress with individuals. But I'm not an AP coonie, never have even pushed or mentioned that place, never ordered from there nor would I suggest it either. Just my opinion.

P.S. Also you'd have to be F'ing stupid to spend $180 for a 10ml bottle of gear. i guess if that's all you can get sure, but come on $180.
 
btw you and other AP croonies say ugl is always dangerous and dont use..sure some are..but those that are tried and true arent.... take thailand... damn there a third world country, slave child labor, very dirty, child prostitution where the government really doesnt do much...poor country, animal sacrifices, and we should trust the thai government exclusively where if they say its ok, hell it must be...I dont think so... that goes for other country's including some business in the U.S. and if anyone wants to pay those prices hell, more power to them... I wont..[/QUOTE]


I don't know who is saying that but for sure not me. regarding Thailand being dirty country and FDA should not be trusted statement is just stupid.
Danabol, Anabol, Deca Durabolin, Testoviron depot, all passed same registration procedure.
None of steroids on market comes from USA as those are controlled substances and the best option is to get them is in countries where those are available over the counter;
That is why most popular Dianabol is Anabol
blend fo test sustanon pakistan or India
deca- Deca Durabolin Pakistan or India
and so on..
 
well, I think we and the board members exhausted our opinions.....I have been offered free AP gear from pharma eu and world pharma..and yes they new I was in the U.S. both big time sellers of AP...

in the U.S. if a pharmaceutical company (as you purport AP is) if they want to find legit companies to sell their product, the resellers have to be legit, licensed with federal government agencies, keep strict records.....from what I see that is not the case of AP...

Milliard hit the nail on the head...the resellers did more damage to AP than the legitamacy of their product... so AP gave permission to dumb fucks as resellsers... this is their problem...not ours...AP needs to get control of their resellers or their name and product is compromised as it has been...trust me..many many many boards, vets/mods/old timers are tired of hearing about AP... IMO they are as guilty just giving their product to whom ever wants to be a reseller..

but I have said before, I can never say AP scammed anyone nor their gear isnt legit.. So I wil leave it as this pnutbutter has been banned, we all gave our opinions...if anyone wants to legally buy AP products at their outrageous price is up to them....I will never buy it..(even declined free gear)...if anyone asks me about AP, I will give them my true opinion...never in my day have I seen a supposed legit pharmacy have such a bad rep and controversy in a short period of time....

and yes.....I dont trust thailand's federal government....
 
well, I think we and the board members exhausted our opinions.....I have been offered free AP gear from pharma eu and world pharma..and yes they new I was in the U.S. both big time sellers of AP...

in the U.S. if a pharmaceutical company (as you purport AP is) if they want to find legit companies to sell their product, the resellers have to be legit, licensed with federal government agencies, keep strict records.....from what I see that is not the case of AP...

Milliard hit the nail on the head...the resellers did more damage to AP than the legitamacy of their product... so AP gave permission to dumb fucks as resellsers... this is their problem...not ours...AP needs to get control of their resellers or their name and product is compromised as it has been...trust me..many many many boards, vets/mods/old timers are tired of hearing about AP... IMO they are as guilty just giving their product to whom ever wants to be a reseller..

but I have said before, I can never say AP scammed anyone nor their gear isnt legit.. So I wil leave it as this pnutbutter has been banned, we all gave our opinions...if anyone wants to legally buy AP products at their outrageous price is up to them....I will never buy it..(even declined free gear)...if anyone asks me about AP, I will give them my true opinion...never in my day have I seen a supposed legit pharmacy have such a bad rep and controversy in a short period of time....

and yes.....I dont trust thailand's federal government....

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and yes.....I dont trust thailand's federal government....

i was in thailand and bought a fair bit of gear when i was over there... got to know the pharmicist pretty well and she told me she frequently sells fake gear to unsuspecting tourists with legit labelling and packaging. makes u wonder
 
i was in thailand and bought a fair bit of gear when i was over there... got to know the pharmicist pretty well and she told me she frequently sells fake gear to unsuspecting tourists with legit labelling and packaging. makes u wonder

Just go to Hospital and buy there.
I recommend you to get script also, not expensive and you can take it.I also recommend you
any product you will buy ask them to prove you it is FDA approved.
That goes for any country where those products are available OTC.
 
To be a very objective regarding this subject i think that Asia Pharma is better than banal UG labs now if u need to paid a little extra and get quality stuff its "your" choice.

When some labs buy a quality API's from EU where is a price 2x expensive than in China it will directly influence a selling price of the gear but the quality will be irreporchable. Everything cost starting from the quality of Api's to the packaging; Its not a same price to get your orals in the blister and pouches personally i would prefer to get my orals in the blister to avoid all microbilogical problems.
 
but 170 us dollars for 10 ml...hey go for it..if your that dumb and needy...

only a greedy traders play around with the prices this have nothing to do with AP labs they dont sell directly any aas to their customers only to the wholesalers. I m not here to protect any labs but to stay objective if some one sell a vial for 200usd, this have nothing to do with the manufacturer only a distributor fix a retail prices for their customers.

manufacturer' price, => wholesale price and the ... drug's retail price; this last point is where each net dealers can fix deliberately his price to benefits higher profit from 60 to 200usd per amps of 10ml [:o)]
 
Just go to Hospital and buy there.
I recommend you to get script also, not expensive and you can take it.I also recommend you
any product you will buy ask them to prove you it is FDA approved.
That goes for any country where those products are available OTC.

who from here goes to that hospital..and you recommend getting a script..no shit...........I still havent received a true pharmacy license number...
 
To be a very objective regarding this subject i think that Asia Pharma is better than banal UG labs now if u need to paid a little extra and get quality stuff its "your" choice.

When some labs buy a quality API's from EU where is a price 2x expensive than in China it will directly influence a selling price of the gear but the quality will be irreporchable. Everything cost starting from the quality of Api's to the packaging; Its not a same price to get your orals in the blister and pouches personally i would prefer to get my orals in the blister to avoid all microbilogical problems.

I can understand why they might be a little more expensive than your run of the mill ugl. Even if their product is great and priced around the same as your big pharma companies. Hell, while I'm at it, let me say I might even pay a little more for AP than some regular human grade. Some of the fakes are so good now even suppliers can't always spot them. But the thing is, they are asking DOUBLE the price of human grade. And yes the main outlet for AP also sells some human grade items, and guess what? They ask for over double the going rate for those too. It makes me wonder if they might just be out of touch with reality. :confused:
 
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