Ass to grass vs. Parallel squats

[Prariemadness]

I'm with you on deadlifts but then again I'm a powerlifter. Hard to argue with the back development of upper level powerlifters who aren't extremely overweight.

I will say that there are some people who have leverages which make deadlifting a riskier proposition but I think most people's problem with deadlifting is poor form and either simply trying to do too much weight or ay too many reps. Deadlifting is a low rep movement IMO.

I fully agree. 95% of people deadlifting out there are doing t very poorly. It should involve very limited lower back forces and should be a hamstring and glute movement which also builds impressive upper backs. It should also be done low rep!(well unless you are weak and pull less than 405 in which case rep away). If wanting more reps then Romanian deadlifts are a better choice.

 

[ruckin]

You are partially correct. A2G high bar squats are safe and make a lot of sense for athletic purposes. If you can't reach there then it is likely you have some disfunction.

However, you should never try to go low bar A2G. This is inviting issues such as butt wink and other problems. Low bar is quite simply the easiest way to shift massive amounts of weight. It involves much more glute and ham, but this glute and ham tension should be maxing out for a rebound effect at parralel.

Source: competitive powerlifter with a solid high bar, front and low bar squat.

I agree. I only have ever done high bar. I have no interest in low bar as I squat purely for athletic development. Nothing against low bar, but high bar, atg is simply better all around for athletic development in field sports. If I ever decided to compete in PLing I'm sure I'd switch to low bar.

 

[MindlessWork]

Me favorite exercise. Second is deadlifts. I prefer dumbbells for bench press over a bar.

Dumbbells are easier for me too for bench pressing..less stress on my shoulders as well as being able to control the movement better

 

[heady muscle]

Dumbbells are easier for me too for bench pressing..less stress on my shoulders as well as being able to control the movement better

yeah, no doubt. Plus I really like the stretch.

Funny thing with dumbbells it's hard to do a reverse grip type of bench press. I tried one time and just about rip a bicep. Sometimes I not very smart! I love trying new things with lifting though.

 

[alphastrength50]

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[MindlessWork]

yeah, no doubt. Plus I really like the stretch.

Funny thing with dumbbells it's hard to do a reverse grip type of bench press. I tried one time and just about rip a bicep. Sometimes I not very smart! I love trying new things with lifting though.

I'd try using a light dumbbell for trying reverse grip, but I don't think you will have enough control doing reverse grip db presses without risking injury.

 

[Kinikuman]

I squat butt to calves, narrow stance with feet pointed out. Same with front squats. Squatted this way for 30 years now. Back squats bother my shoulders more than my knees. The adaptive stresses on the joints from the full squat are critical in helping to prevent injuries - maybe more so in competitive lifters than recreational ones or BBs.

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

Me too these last few weeks on pct has been a muthafucker. Haven't even felt like coming on meso to even read. Fortunately I've been able to crawl out bed and hit the gym 6 days a week. Seems almost like borderline depression. 2 weeks ago lost one of my dogs I had for 13 years cried half the night. Buried him in the back yard under a pecan tree and poured a slab as a memorial. Wife thought that was excessive still wants me to see a doctor.

I'm so sorry to hear about your dog! My dog is 11 and is a big dog(140lbs) and means the world to me! There's not many humans I wouldn't kill in this world for my dog.

 

[heady muscle]

I'd try using a light dumbbell for trying reverse grip, but I don't think you will have enough control doing reverse grip db presses without risking injury.

I may try your way for the fun of it.

 

[MindlessWork]

I may try your way for the fun of it.

Try it with say a 5 or 10lb db to see how it feels, then slowly up the weight to where you feel any bicep discomfort or awkwardness. I personally haven't done db presses with reverse grip but done it with barbell, and yes that feels awkward as hell.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Try it with say a 5 or 10lb db to see how it feels, then slowly up the weight to where you feel any bicep discomfort or awkwardness. I personally haven't done db presses with reverse grip but done it with barbell, and yes that feels awkward as hell.

I let all the Darwin-rejects do the reverse-grip bench press .
I seen a skinny guy just about break his windpipe trying to do 1 rep with 135lbs . Then the idiot got the bar back on the rack and tryed again with the same results . He didnt try a 3rd set...lol

 

[heady muscle]

Try it with say a 5 or 10lb db to see how it feels, then slowly up the weight to where you feel any bicep discomfort or awkwardness. I personally haven't done db presses with reverse grip but done it with barbell, and yes that feels awkward as hell.

I do barbell maybe once a month. I will try it next week and report back! Should be fun.

 

[MindlessWork]

I do barbell maybe once a month. I will try it next week and report back! Should be fun.

Just for shits and giggles I am going to try the reverse grip db press as well on my next arm session. Yes it will be fun to try it, but I'll certainly use the light db's first.

 

[tubesox]

I let all the Darwin-rejects do the reverse-grip bench press .
I seen a skinny guy just about break his windpipe trying to do 1 rep with 135lbs . Then the idiot got the bar back on the rack and tryed again with the same results . He didnt try a 3rd set...lol

No reverse grip for me either, far to impractical and unnatural

 

[MindlessWork]

I let all the Darwin-rejects do the reverse-grip bench press .
I seen a skinny guy just about break his windpipe trying to do 1 rep with 135lbs . Then the idiot got the bar back on the rack and tryed again with the same results . He didnt try a 3rd set...lol

LOL I do see people doing that with weights they can't really handle with reverse grip. Most I have done on the barbell with reverse grip was 75lbs haha

No reverse grip for me either, far to impractical and unnatural

I agree so that's why it is not done very much

 

[heady muscle]

unnatural

That's me! lol!

 

[tubesox]

That's me! lol!

Apparently me too lol, along with everyone else on this forum!

 

[fokai500]

I'm so sorry to hear about your dog! My dog is 11 and is a big dog(140lbs) and means the world to me! There's not many humans I wouldn't kill in this world for my dog.

My boy was no where that big he and his sister wandered into my yard 13 yrs ago and never left. I have a soft side with animals and whatever wanders into the property gets fed fixed and homed. Pit mixes and smart never left my kids sides. Extemly hard when you have pictures all over your house with your kids hugging, playing with them since they where babies till they were teenagers. Thanks.

 

[fokai500]

LOL I do see people doing that with weights they can't really handle with reverse grip. Most I have done on the barbell with reverse grip was 75lbs haha




I agree so that's why it is not done very much

I've barbell reverse grip with pretty heavy weights but dumbbell I don't know feels like an injury about to happen.

 

[cobra500]

Used to hit almost asg but after knee injury and months of rehab was told that the wear and tear on knees isn't worth it for long term. Only go to parallel not as heavy and have noticed a lot less knee pain. I'm in for the long haul and not in my 20's anymore so parallel is for me.