Astro Labs US Dom and Intl SRC


I copied and pasted parts of his pm to me. This guy was taught hands on yrs ago by strango......

He may react to a solvent a certain way but the Test itself I find I need a 2 hour window, I pin 2 hours before I squat or deadlift. The guaiacol may race his heart especial sine people use 2x as much of it then I do. I dose it at 50mg to simple make it pain free from pip, the pip fact going above 50mg becomes very significant.
50/50 that shit is going to hurt like **** IMO plus who the hell wants to pin tren 2 to 3 times a day, Ace is the way to go and if he had a brain he would do TNE/Ace but then again I don't like a blend of either of them compounds I need more control over the dosing.
 
I'll def consider it. The o ly thing is TNE will not hold without guaiacol even with 100% EO. I only use 10% guaiacol when some are using 20-30%. I could make a water base and it would be sterile. I would use sterile water ad ba, bb and polysorbate. Brew until fully disolved filter it while still hot then when it cools it crashes and there you have test suspension. I could do the same thing with the Tren base

If you're experience a increase/rapid heart rate what's causing it is the excessive amount of guaiacol that you're using. It has nothing to do with there being no ester. This isn't good. I'm serious about this. Are you please going to consider this?
Have you also considered why you don't see tren no ester anywhere? Do you think it's just something that's been overlooked? Along with that you speak of guaiacol as if you just discovered it?
You don't see tren offered this way because of the fucking pain. You don't have superior guaiacol you are simply using way to much of it which is what makes your heart race.....ITS NOT THE HORMONE.
TNE in oil doesn't hit like it does is oil. I am talking to a long time source/brewer of gear from another board about this and this is what he's saying.
If you were smart you'd make a TNE/Tren Acetate combo.
Please consider what I'm saying.
 
Makes since. The reason I have it is because not many sources carry it. I agree I would never cycle it but guys who are running a tren cycle may like it PWO.
I.won't make the blend I'll leave it as is.

I copied and pasted parts of his pm to me. This guy was taught hands on yrs ago by strango......

He may react to a solvent a certain way but the Test itself I find I need a 2 hour window, I pin 2 hours before I squat or deadlift. The guaiacol may race his heart especial sine people use 2x as much of it then I do. I dose it at 50mg to simple make it pain free from pip, the pip fact going above 50mg becomes very significant.
50/50 that shit is going to hurt like **** IMO plus who the hell wants to pin tren 2 to 3 times a day, Ace is the way to go and if he had a brain he would do TNE/Ace but then again I don't like a blend of either of them compounds I need more control over the dosing.
 
I think bens idea of stretching the tren suspension to 50mg/ml wouldn't be to much of a pain in the ass if it makes the pip tolerable.

I like the idea of water based but sterility is a huge concern for me.

Have you brewed the tren base yet?
 
tomorrow busy ass day. I'll pm you when its ready

I think bens idea of stretching the tren suspension to 50mg/ml wouldn't be to much of a pain in the ass if it makes the pip tolerable.

I like the idea of water based but sterility is a huge concern for me.

Have you brewed the tren base yet?
 
Astro has been in contact about my partially shipped order. I will update the board when he sends me tracking info or the order has arrived completed.
 
I think bens idea of stretching the tren suspension to 50mg/ml wouldn't be to much of a pain in the ass if it makes the pip tolerable.

I like the idea of water based but sterility is a huge concern for me.

Have you brewed the tren base yet?

I just want to be clear and I would give credit it the guy wanted his name mentioned but he doesn't. JackC4 knows the private source I'm quoting. The only thing I've done as far as brewing(and it's not) is yrs back fini and synovex converting.
I'm not and the guy I quoted isn't saying not to use guaic...its a must for these things, Pre work out use of these tren and tne mixes is what he and I were discussing,
I've used his tne dosed at 50mg/ml and I've used strangos.
 
I believe we have a Tren fan[:o)][:o)]

I hope to find myself in the same boat in the next couple of weeks

Once you are running that tren, you will be glad that the chick in your avatar gives it up so easily, because you'll be constantly looking for something to stuff your man-meat in!
 
Once you are running that tren, you will be glad that the chick in your avatar gives it up so easily, because you'll be constantly looking for something to stuff your man-meat in!

:D Im looking forward to it! Minus the fact that thats a dude in my Avi....That would be uncomfortable.......

This may be a stupid question. Whats the difference between Test sus and TNE? Arnt they both Test No ester?
 
Once you are running that tren, you will be glad that the chick in your avatar gives it up so easily, because you'll be constantly looking for something to stuff your man-meat in!

That's one thing that tren does for some that it doesn't do for all. Makes some maniacs.
My first experience with tren was around 1999/2000 with a cartridge of pellets, mortar and pestle, and a jar of dmso. I applied it to the inside of my thigh and did that fucker burned some.
I wasn't taking anything else...no test. The first side I noticed when my young kids and wife said my breath smelled strongly(and not pleasantly) of corn? The next was my total disinterest in sex. It's not that my dick wouldn't get hard it was that it just didn't interest me at all?
I remember my ex thinking something was wrong with her.,,that something was turning me off. I remember the tears. Then I remember the accusations of infidelity. The anger.....then came the voice activated tape recorder from radio shack I found plugged into the phone jack in the basement behind the couch. It was as if I was chemically castrated. Sex drive gone.
Everything else was hard as fuck, except my dick. I fell hard for tren from the gate. I picked up some test and was cured. After that I put the mortar and pestle away in favor of a conversion kits from Eagle research and fini and synovex from Vet America. Vet supply co. out of Florida. I loved that Test P and Tren A.
Hey bickel, have you ever ran a tren only cycle? It clearly doesn't work so well because of that side effect, but if it wasn't for that I would've been happy with it. I probably would've been so much more productive in my lifetime if hadn't had been as preoccupied by women over the years. Wouldn't have had as much fun but also wouldn't have endured as much pain either. Pain everwhere....heart, wallet, etc.
Off topic again....anyway, I've read some guys have had success with tren only cycles. Since that first experience I have always ran some sort of test with my tren. I've never run it at a trt dose, though. I understand that if a guy is having issues with sides(night sweats, insomnia, etc) and he is running equal amounts or say 500mg/ew of test that by dropping to a trt dose of test that many times it makes the sides much more tolerable.
It's led guys to say that they have bad sides like insomnia/sweats from test? If this is what they are saying(I'm not sure?) then I don't think that is an accurate conclusion to draw? Or is it?
If they don't experience the sides when running test independently then it's a tren it's at tren issue? Wouldn't it be? Maybe it could be a test problem and the blame assigned to it if Tren was going to be the base of your cycles from here on out?
The synergy between the test and tren and the degree to which it is felt varied greatly from person to person from what I've read over the years;
Bickel and anyone else that has experience with various test dosing while on tren I'd be interested in your thoughts, thanks.
 
:D Im looking forward to it! Minus the fact that thats a dude in my Avi....That would be uncomfortable.......

This may be a stupid question. Whats the difference between Test sus and TNE? Arnt they both Test No ester?

Yes....they are the same. I had the same question myself at one point.
 
:D Im looking forward to it! Minus the fact that thats a dude in my Avi....That would be uncomfortable.......

This may be a stupid question. Whats the difference between Test sus and TNE? Arnt they both Test No ester?

Yes....they are the same. I had the same question myself at one point.
 
I tried looking for a study on oil vs water based TNE comparing the amount of time it takes for the test to hit peak circulation but to no avail.

Is there a study anyone has seen that I can look at it? I would be interested if someone knows of one.

Also would like to hear others experience especially from those who have used both.
 
Exactly the same compound which is Test Base. The only difference is ones In water ones in oil.

That's the difference in yours. Advertised TNE in water is the same as Test suspension. And the difference between TNE in water and TNE in oil in SIGNIFIGANT, To say it's not is not an opinion, it's a fact.
Your saying that there is no difference just preference would you list these preferences, please. We have guys here that have not had access and therefor have no experience when it comes to this stuff.
I appreciate your and think your decision to make tne in oil was the right decision for members due to the risk of infection.
The following is not an attack on you personally. I'm certain you will take it as I am and that's because it will make you uncomfortable. You saying that I was "wrong" about this and that does nothing to add to your credibility nor does it add to any credibility you may or may not have.
It appears that you did brew for scirrox. You came here saying you brewed for a very well known source but could not and would not give a references for reasons you couldn't expand on.
To us, members here that smelled to high heaven of insincerity, Meaning you were either lying or that there was something rotten in Denmark.
What happened, just as it happened when you had to come clean about "beastin" being another account/handle, was try to spin it to make your lie give you credibility. I knew and know you are lying about so much. We asked for references? How could you give us a ref from the company you worked from when you basically were on the run and in hiding?
If you didn't want your former employment to be posted in the open but were being honest and let it be known you were who you said u were you could've, and it was offered to you, to pm a vet and give him the name. But you couldn't in fear(remember when I said I could smell fear on you and your behavior was fear based?) that you would be exposed and karl would catch up with you. Which is what happened.
So u saying I was "wrong" in saying u weren't a cook for karl isn't a victory for you, See? You not in some way giving your resume credibility and thinking u just saying so would be acceptable is illogical. If your way of doing things in this instance was logical, I could put I could fill out an application for a nurses position, saying I was went to nursing school, graduated and interned but refusing to give the names of schools or anything else that helped to confirm my story. I ask to be put in the er for shifts to show off what I;ve learned.
Just for fun let's say that they hospital did this. I worked several shifts and of course I would be scrutinized....out under a microscope because not only do they not have proof that I did the things on my application, they haven't anyones opinion on how I perform. Just mine.....the person wanting the positon.
A few weeks go by and I've done pretty well. I show up for work on time. I appear to know what I;m doing.
Then one day, what I FEAR might happen, does. My past catches up to me. I had been pressed by someone who is trusted at the hospital to give SOMETHING...ANYTHING to lend credibility to my claims. I mentioned the name of the company I worked for.
The hospital administrator of the last place,....the only place...I worked for and held the position I said I did hears I've surfaced at another hospital. I've come out of hiding. My old boss sends an underling to check things out. I'm accused of taking drugs from the cabinets that I;ve been given access to as I was an employee and my position required that I work with and have access to these dompounds. After a short time I admit to taking the drugs from the locked room with the drugs I needed access to in order to fulfill the duties my job required. I say with malice that I was underpaid and that my boss, the administrator, was unfair and had regular hours and was overpaid and had worked me to the poinf of exhaustion and got all the credit for the success of the hospital and I got nothing. So yes, I did what I;m accused of but name names of others that broke rules and especially you immediate supervisor, the administrator, who was underhanded and lied to the public...he was worse than I was. I was underpaid and felt as if I was owed. I decided to give myself my own version of a golden parachute and compensate myself at a rate that I and I alone would determine. I stole. I took what I didn't own and had no right to any of it. I then went on the lam. Not only that,,,,i went rogue. I stole enough product....enough of the drugs I was in charge of to open up under the umbrella and partial anonymity that a place that meso gives you.
You had enough to give you a pretty good start. It's so much more than a no interest loan. You have nothing to pay back(You probably do now?) All profit. It's the exact same thing as ripping off a cocaine dealer on the street and going to a new neighborhood and opening up shop. You try to keep it quiet but word usually gets out and now you are being made to answer.
Getting back to my nursing career....I admit to my boss and the board and the community as a whole that yes. I did steal these things from my former employer. And yes, I did so because I believe I wasn't treated fairly. I had it coming to me. I'm fired. Not only because I lied....but because I stole from my former employer because I felt I was owed more. I showed a lack of integrity and in Astros case the law is broken from the gate, but broke the code and stole from the head of the crimimal enterprise and in the case of a place like scirrox, R.I.C.O charges if and when they fall off are certainly a possibility. And if you didn't know...RICO cases start sentencing at 15yrs. Cooperate and we start downward departures.
Your saying "A HA" I told big ben I worked for karl" as if it means something? You can';t run from your past forever. Does this clear things up some?
I gotta run ,,,,I'll finish later.

If I was
 
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