Painful to the extent of working out with them. Had bicep and forearm at night since I couldn't do them the daytime with chest due to the pumps from the var. anyways had a hard time with the bicep/forearm workout as well due to the intensity of the pumps.
Lower the dosage man. Same happened to me on Tbol at 60 mgs .painful pumps when even just standing man.kept at 40 and bamm. Still great pumps but not as painful.
