BB causes PIP rumor.

[Sampei]

Ultimately we are the Brewers that have lab tests to reflect our accuracy of ingredients. Raw products, etc


We also live in different parts of the world and don't use the same supplier for oil/MCT /BB/BA

Yeah exactly, I have lab tear proving my 310mg test C and it did crash after a while and it was kept in a room that was at least never below 16/17c

My solvents are all pharmaceutical grade one, and I guess most of you guys have the same quality.

But as I said I'm happy to pay the bounty if anyone can prove me wrong on the 300mg 18/20% BB test C

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Yeah exactly, I have lab tear proving my 310mg test C and it did crash after a while and it was kept in a room that was at least never below 16/17c

My solvents are all pharmaceutical grade one, and I guess most of you guys have the same quality.

But as I said I'm happy to pay the bounty if anyone can prove me wrong on the 300mg 18/20% BB test C

Agreed.

Even find this study says it won't hold at 20%

Structural Insights and Intermolecular Energy for Some Medium and Long-Chain Testosterone Esters - PMC

Testosterone (17β-Hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one) is the primary male anabolic-androgenic steroid. The crystal structures of two medium and two long esterified forms of testosterone, including enanthate, cypionate, decanoate and undecanoate, were ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

2/20 +oil

 

[Dirthand]

Agreed.

Even find this study says it won't hold at 20%

Structural Insights and Intermolecular Energy for Some Medium and Long-Chain Testosterone Esters - PMC

Testosterone (17β-Hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one) is the primary male anabolic-androgenic steroid. The crystal structures of two medium and two long esterified forms of testosterone, including enanthate, cypionate, decanoate and undecanoate, were ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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When I say something will or won't work it's be cause I personally tried it.. I want to mention something i have noticed. I made batch of NPP 200 at 25%bb vialed it up in 5- 20ml vials and 10 -10ml vials.. this was a oiled months ago... the 20ml vials has held well and I've used a couple of them.. the 10ml vials are crashed pretty solid.. not trying to derail the thread, just find this odd..

 

[Dirthand]

Something that may be useful to the thread.. I did a lot of bloodwork last year.. at least every 4 weeks.. for sifferent reasons on reason is i was trying to see how my body reacts to different carrier oils and solvents... my CPR is great at runnung gear with 24-30% BB.. and I'm not saying a 1m of something with 26%.. were talking 3.5ml of different shit twice a week all ranging between 25-30 %bb so doe me higher bb doesn't cause inflammation or reactions to raise crp.. however Ethyl oleate is a no go for me..

 

[Denicnut2427]

That "kid" Is definitely a 43 year old man, that knows cyp definitely won't hold for shit in 18%bb..

I’ve made it at 1%ba 18%bb before and you were the retart I told I made a blend the same way that had 100mg of test prop too at the same ratio and said something f stupid back…buddy I’ve made blends of test and every concentration imaginable…you don’t need 26%-30% bb for normal concentrations I promise! You’re getting slick back again like I’m just making statements and I haven’t done it…shoot all that shot if you want I’m asking the other guy what the point is if it’s just to thin the oil or what bc you don’t need that much to hold test at reasonable concentrations I guaran fucking tee it cuz! Shoot all that shit if you want!

 

[Dirthand]

I’ve made it at 1%ba 18%bb before and you were the retart I told I made a blend the same way that had 100mg of test prop too at the same ratio and said something f stupid back…buddy I’ve made blends of test and every concentration imaginable…you don’t need 26%-30% bb for normal concentrations I promise! You’re getting slick back again like I’m just making statements and I haven’t done it…shoot all that shot if you want I’m asking the other guy what the point is if it’s just to thin the oil or what bc you don’t need that much to hold test at reasonable concentrations I guaran fucking tee it cuz! Shoot all that shit if you want!

You tha man!!! If you will read up it the thread @Sampei offered to pay for gcms and hplc for anyone that can prove they can make test cyp 300 at 1%ba 18%bb that ratio and throw in 200$ to prove it that way ... thats 500$ of his money I'll throw in an additional 300$ that's money Your pocket prove it.thats all testing paid to prove it and 500$ in your pocket.. prove it or shut the fuck up.. umkay.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

You tha man!!! If you will read up it the thread @Sampei offered to pay for gcms and hplc for anyone that can prove they can make test cyp 300 at 1%ba 18%bb that ratio and throw in 200$ to prove it that way ... thats 500$ of his money I'll throw in an additional 300$ that's money Your pocket prove it.thats all testing paid to prove it and 500$ in your pocket.. prove it or shut the fuck up.. umkay.

Add 300 dollars of that to me too. Send a 5ml vial to Janoshik so they can see it isnt crashed or anything.


Guiacol or EO must be his oil.

 

[Sampei]

Something that may be useful to the thread.. I did a lot of bloodwork last year.. at least every 4 weeks.. for sifferent reasons on reason is i was trying to see how my body reacts to different carrier oils and solvents... my CPR is great at runnung gear with 24-30% BB.. and I'm not saying a 1m of something with 26%.. were talking 3.5ml of different shit twice a week all ranging between 25-30 %bb so doe me higher bb doesn't cause inflammation or reactions to raise crp.. however Ethyl oleate is a no go for me..

thanks for this, I was wondering myself to do the same test and check if high BB would raise my CPR, well you made that for us.

In the spring I'll do the mig840 test, if you are injecting mig840, you could check CPR too and we can compare if we have any raise of it.

 

[niqTM]

thanks for this, I was wondering myself to do the same test and check if high BB would raise my CPR, well you made that for us.

In the spring I'll do the mig840 test, if you are injecting mig840, you could check CPR too and we can compare if we have any raise of it.

How long does Miglyol840 take to raise CRP if it is going to raise it? Is it gradual over time or does it spike?

 

[primojuju]

For qsc test cyp at 300 i had to go to 23%bb and its just on the edge of holding in 60/40 c8/c10mct. Anytime at all in the fridge crashes it. Shoots very smooth once you put on the candle warmer.

 

[Sampei]

How long does Miglyol840 take to raise CRP if it is going to raise it? Is it gradual over time or does it spike?

There is no gradual overtime with CRP imho

It raises or it doesn't raise. I would check after 3/4 days just to be 100% sure, one injection a day of mig840 and test CRP after.

Half-life of CRP is 48hrs
So you get it high or you don't.

 

[niqTM]

There is no gradual overtime with CRP imho

It raises or it doesn't raise. I would check after 3/4 days just to be 100% sure, one injection a day of mig840 and test CRP after.

Half-life of CRP is 48hrs
So you get it high or you don't.

Rock on. Thanks for the expertise.

I just brewed prop in miglyol840. No BB. 1% BA. Still got good sting and pip. So not the BB that's causing that one.

 

[Plate Smacker]

Testosterone Decanoate is pip free regardless of using 1or 2% BA or using 15 to 20%BB.
If BA or BB cause pip, then all compounds would have pip. Yet compounds with no pip, have no pip regardless of % I've used.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Testosterone Decanoate is pip free regardless of using 1or 2% BA or using 15 to 20%BB.
If BA or BB cause pip, then all compounds would have pip. Yet compounds with no pip, have no pip regardless of % I've used.

Test d is the smoothest underrated ester
@narta is still a prick but I'm glad he introduced it to us

 

[Plate Smacker]

Test d is the smoothest underrated ester
@narta is still a prick but I'm glad he introduced it to us

Back when the whole Test E unbearable pip thing happened, and I had to toss about 200g of raws and 25 vials... I switched to Test D. I still got a couple vials. I cruised on it, even 0.5mL causes intense pain, but wanted to run bloods to see if legit, and it was. At the time 2 different sources and both were painful as hell.

But yeah, Test D is smooth.

Painful Test E was the reason for switch.

 

[Sampei]

Test D has become my favourite compound of them all.

I mean 2ml 1g of test are you fucking kidding me? It's just amazing and smooth as fuck.

You can do 1gr of test 1gr of EQ with just 4ml and 0 pip, what do you need more in life?

 

[narta]

what do you need more in life?

 

[Sampei]

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You got a death wish I see!

 

[Dirthand]

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PASTA!!! and MEATBALLS!!!

 

[narta]

You got a death wish I see!

I googled culinary things that Italians find offensive