I read that also. Millard....you don't have any insight on this?
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I read that also. Millard....you don't have any insight on this?
Repo
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Hey guys,
It's been my privilege to become friends with Z over the last few years...
I don't know his real name nor would I be able to tell you what he looks like ... "which is good - because it's not my business."
What I can tell you is this...
Z is a good man who was screwed over by one of his well trusted partners - running off with over 1.2 million dollars
It's been my privilege to become friends with Z over the last few years...
I don't know his real name nor would I be able to tell you what he looks like ... "which is good - because it's not my business."
What I can tell you is this...
Z is a good man who was screwed over by one of his well trusted partners - running off with over 1.2 million dollars
Are you sure ? Please read this post made by your boss UncleZ. Nothing has been doctored.
He said he had been ratted by competition. Now he is a good man who was screwed over by one of his well trusted partners ?
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/unclez/175969-zs-resend-campaign.html
The shortened story:
We've got ratted out by competition.
Had to stay down for about six months
We're here to make it right , no to start the site up for any sales.
As to replies , pls be more patient , u can imagine how swamped we are ....
Thanks for all the reasonable and friendly responses.
You want more from your good man UncleZ ? Nothing has been doctored. He knows 'things' about oscaro. Oscaro has been in jail for last 12 months.
Unclez is in jail - Bullshit (would be deleted if true
- Page 6Even better one - as a matter of fact oscaro was ratted out by a complete asshole w/o morality or principles
If this bullshit was true even in 1% , i wouldn't be back for this resend campaign.
Being arrested and seized everything or being LE trying to get someone - i couldn't afford to get goodies to owed fellas.
Such bullshit competition posts insult inteligence of all the real , non 1 post members and owners of this board , i just can't get upset reading this , it's plain ridiculous and mostly just funny
I guess that over 1.2 million dollars is a lot of money. How many orders/packages to be resend ? 1000 ? 10k ?
Well good luck with this BS with UncleZ.
You can all play it back and forward. UncleZ did not answer any single question. He said he'd contacted admin (Millard) and explained his situation. Had he ?
We runderstood that UncleZ is not who is supposed to be just after he posted what he knows what had happened to oscaro. He knows nothing at all.
UncleZ is a fake/DEA agent/polish cop/scammer/impostor/name it.
Millard please look into it. We contacted Rober DiMaggio owner of ironmagazine too.
When I wrote the article for steroids.info, I did not identify UncleZ by name as I had no way of verifying if he was actually detained/arrested. Keep in mind the larger sources may have 10, 20 or more people working for them. So a bust of one part of the organization may only affect it to varying degrees.
We've seen this happen with Axio. Axio was "busted" multiple times but the company kept on going. The leader of the organization evaded LE up until recently. Now, he is in South Africa fighting extradition to the U.S. and his ex-wife in the UK fighting extradition as well.
The feds recently extradited two Ukrainian men, one of whom was allegedly the leader of the Musclebear organization. But now, one of the people convicted in the case tells me the real leader got away.
So, when it comes to the big sources it is difficult to determine if the leader has been busted - especially when anonymity measures are taken.
Claims that UncleZ was never arrested are plausible. If he was captured (and especially if he were extradited to the U.S.), it seems the feds/DEA/etc would take credit. They usually do.
What seems very clear to me is that the US has made a concerted effort to go after the big international sources e.g. original British Dragon, Axio, Musclebear, Mihael Karner, etc.
According to news reports, they claim to be involved in the action in Poland too. I haven't seen any news to suggest anyone has been extradited as a result.
The leader of the UncleZ organization would be a big score for US. I suspect he would be the endgame and not a pawn to bring down customers and lesser dealers.
I try to monitor all efforts of steroid law enforcement reaching outside the U.S. borders. It seems pursuing international steroid sources has become an acceptable extension of the broader war on drugs. Anytime the U.S. tries to extradite intl sources, I will try to alert MESO members.
So he wasn't actually busted at all? So the massive bust in Poland, which coincided with Z disappearing is all just a coincidence? I guess Z's statements that he was " on the run " and that his warehouse was raided was a lie?
Whats the real story here guys? I'm seeing this Z got fucked over story on multiple boards now, what does it have to do with anything?
Repo
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Here's what happen with Z as best as I know - but let me first tell you how I've become friends with Z.
Several years ago - before I ever heard of MESO-RX - I found Z on another forum (and was also somewhat new to this game) - the best way I could add to worthwhile feedback to the forums - was to simply give my honest feedback from my experience with Z's products and service.
Eventually I began to chat with Z through PM's and soon became friends with him as well - and the more I got to know him - the more I knew he was a good man who was doing his best to provide the best products and service he possibly could ... "to all of his customers."
Well, last year he was screwed by Shaggy - one of his partners who was taking orders for around a month and then took off with the cash - ripping off Z and customers - taking off with 1.2 million dollars in orders.
When all of the controversy started up - I was also concerned and asked Z to tell me something only he and I would know, based on our past conversations ... "and that he did."
It is absolutely my feeling that everyone here is seeing the real Z just trying to make things right.
Repo
You placed your first order with UncleZ on 11/17/2010.
How do I know it ?
Am I UncleZ ?
UncleZ said he'd got ratted out by competition.
Didn't you read that part ?
So then why he did tell people he was on the run, and that his warehouse was raided? Why did he disappear from all of the boards?
What does Z being fucked over by someone have to do with his legal issues?
I'm not trying to be ignorant, but it seems like you guys are deliberately avoiding answering any questions regarding Z's legal troubles.
Honestly I find your sign up date, and your post count quite interesting as well.
Stretch
Subscriber
Because his warehouse/apartment was raided and two of his employees were arrested. Wouldn't you lie low?
I think he was trying to explain, what was going on, with the scamming associated with Z.
What questions are there that are being avoided? I feel like some are so jaded by Z they won't admit to the lack of evidence that he was ever arrested. And lack of evidence that he ratted. It's much easier to just throw around accusations. Who's gonna stand up for a source...right? Except a shill?
LOL...I concur.
Sorry for answering for someone else. The answers just seemed somewhat obvious to me. Hope I didn't step on any toes.
And Kamala, I respect you a lot brother.
If these are the correct circumstances then so be it........ I just gotta be honest here, the whole online AAS world is absolutely full of douchebags and after what I've seen and experienced in my short time around it nothing is beyond possibility.
I'm not accusing anyone of being a snitch etc etc because I realize something like that carries a lot of weight..... I'm just finding the circumstances of this a little bit puzzling, that's all. For instance I find it a bit weird that a employee steals 1.2 million before anything abnormal is noticed....
I have no dog in this fight, but I have seen instances of shady business practices by Z in the past....... The whole "working replica" incident really put his whole mindset and attitude in perspective for me.
That was an incident where he had every opportunity to make things right, admit a breakdown in QC and move on....... Instead he denied, denied and denied some more, and then questioned why people would be upset that they had bought faked HG...... When he could deny it no more, he set up a section called " working replica's" to replace his HG section. Trying to do a play on words like that shows you what he's all about IMHO.
It was so bad he actually got booted from Outlaw for it, and how fing bad is that? I'm sure you know all of this, but there's a lot of noobs out there that don't.
Once again, I rep nothing, sell nothing and promote nothing....... But I really feel that this is a situation that warrants extreme caution until we see what develops, based on what has happened in the past.
Nothing but respect for you stretch, its all good man.
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legendkiller85
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This site is fucking full of idiots who don't know much about anything.I have received my resend order a few days ago with a extra vial.I don't even rep for z just been a loyal customer for years.I already posted link fake bust story from his competition Wp lol The dea and customs have plenty time to just go bust 100's random ppl who never received there order.Wow you ppl are fucking dumb!
....coming from the guy with 2 threads about Uncle Z and all his posts relating to Uncle Z. Seems legit. Smh
Do not order from uncle z
Here's exhibit "A", right here.^^^^^^
See, an idiot would be someone who takes your word without looking at your post history. So that being said, everybody go and look at legendkiller's post history.
This is just another one of Z's zombies, running around talking shit for a few free vials.
If anyone is dumb enough to order from these scamming clowns, you deserve what you get..... This guys history is out there.
tony1354142
New Member
Look, yea in new. Member of another board, I don't just join any board. I ordered from unclez 2008. Shit was bunk. Idk if was a bad batch or what but never contacted him back or tries to get money back. He prolly woulda made it right idk. Thats my experience. Believe it or don't. I been doin mail order since 2005. Hit and miss...gotta just test the waters. I didn't read forums back then. Gotten good gear, gotten bad shit. Gotten good shit from a source then gotten bad shit the 2nd go round. I charge it to the game....we arent buying creatine here so...
Depends on your source...... A lot of game game is how much research you do before you send your $$$.
MANWHORE
Subscriber
I got my order, from Z yesterday..
Sorry I forgot to mention it..
Don't laugh..
Anyway, it has a bunch of.. Well, they
look like Tic-Tac boxes, but there are
labels with the word DBOIL stuck on...
kind of hard at first, then chewy
Can anyone look in their steroid handbook, and
let me know what these are?
Thank you
Sorry I forgot to mention it
..Don't laugh..
Anyway, it has a bunch of.. Well, they
look like Tic-Tac boxes, but there are
labels with the word DBOIL stuck on...
kind of hard at first, then chewy
Can anyone look in their steroid handbook, and
let me know what these are?
Thank you
tony1354142
New Member
Jesus I just got here and I'm already glad I joined. You motherfucker are funny on this bitch....can't wait to read more.
MANWHORE I replied to ur thread on AMA ...I've used them
MANWHORE I replied to ur thread on AMA ...I've used them
MANWHORE
Subscriber
I can't find that thread..
Where the heck is it?
Damn I'm tired.. and I gotta pee
again for the 12th.. yes, at least 12 times today.. AT LEAST
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