Big Bear Labs U.S. Domestic

[BigBearLabs]

@BigBearLabs what/how many samples did you send in?

I’m guessing the deca that “will be in stock soon” isn’t being sent in, of course... but you are still gonna offer it on your list for sale when you stock it?

Or are you sending it out for testing and will wait for the report to come back before it’s back on the price list?

Another thing, you come here as an amateur home brewer with sterile vials and syringe filtering. (I don’t knock that for an average home brewer because that’s how I do it myself).
Now you claim to be upsizing and filtering on a bigger scale.
I’d like to see pics of this new set up, filter, vials, stoppers, caps, crimpers, along with that flow hood and anything else you can think of to convince me you’re ready for this next step!
When should I check back to see all that? Tomorrow? This weekend? Next month?

Don’t wait on us, we’ll wait on you... Thanks for your patience with us all while you’re transitioning...

Everything is currently being updated so within a month we will be moved over to crimping and purchased a new dispenser with inline filters which was bought just awaiting delivery. The deca will not be tested this go around but I can have that tested as well. Everything is available for sale even if it hasn’t had me personally send it out for 3rd party testing. Honest timeline to moving over to better labels and crimped vials would be less than 30 days. This next brew will be the last brew done with pre sterilized vials.

Sterilization:
Bleach then peroxide inside the hood work area.
Use 500ml beaker add in product, bb and oil. Use light heat 100 degrees. Stir until mixture is completely clear. Remove from heat add BA and stir thoroughly. Let mixture cool. Observe for particulates and crystallization. Filter. Observe for particulates. Use 60ml syringe with 18g needle to fill each vial. Check for particulates and crystallization again. Wipe with alcohol pads and label.

 

[bolder]

Everything is currently being updated so within a month we will be moved over to crimping and purchased a new dispenser with inline filters which was bought just awaiting delivery. The deca will not be tested this go around but I can have that tested as well. Everything is available for sale even if it hasn’t had me personally send it out for 3rd party testing. Honest timeline to moving over to better labels and crimped vials would be less than 30 days. This next brew will be the last brew done with pre sterilized vials.

Sterilization:
Bleach then peroxide inside the hood work area.
Use 500ml beaker add in product, bb and oil. Use light heat 100 degrees. Stir until mixture is completely clear. Remove from heat add BA and stir thoroughly. Let mixture cool. Observe for particulates and crystallization. Filter. Observe for particulates. Use 60ml syringe with 18g needle to fill each vial. Check for particulates and crystallization again. Wipe with alcohol pads and label.

I know using the 18g needle is so much faster. Last time I used one that big I noticed a pretty big chunk that it poked in the stopper. (I got the vials and pins all from MedLabSup). From puncturing the first vial I noticed this, and it almost looked like a hole puncture that didn’t close back up. I then decided that I’d just use a 25g to do the rest. Slowed me down a little but was better than a gaping hole in the sterile vials.
Have you not seen this to be a problem when you do it?
You aren’t using a syringe filter when filling your vials? You’re filtering it into what? Then using the 60mg syringe and going straight into the vials?

Help me understand better...

I’ll wait for your response here before asking more questions.

 

[BigBearLabs]

I know using the 18g needle is so much faster. Last time I used one that big I noticed a pretty big chunk in the stopper. (I got the vials and pins all from MedLabSup). From puncturing the first vial I noticed this and it almost looked like a hole puncture that didn’t close back up. I then decided that I’d just use a 25g to do the rest. Slowed me down a little but was better than a gaping hole in the sterile vials.
Have you not seen this to be a problem when you do it?
You aren’t using a syringe filter when filling your vials? You’re filtering it into what? Then using the 60mg syringe and going straight into the vials?

Help me understand better...

I’ll wait for your response here before asking more questions.

If you don’t fill the vial all the way and have to use the 18g twice you’re fucked that’s when i see the hole you speak of. I also bought the new dispenser so that won’t be a thing moving forward after this brew though I haven’t had an issue or had anyone complain yet.
I filter into the autofil vial, if you go on medlabsupply or medlabgear I use the .22um autofil vacuum filter complete setup currently but again the new dispenser has inline filters so it’ll go directly from beaker into vials.
I go from filtering into the autofil to the 60ml syringe then into the vials.

 

[jackmeoff1]

I would highly recommend eating the loss on your investment and giving up now. You won’t gain a significant customer base with what you have rn. Despite the downplayed danger by meso members it is a stupid time to source. Sources are not safe with the pressure the trump administration is putting on drug shipments of any kind. If you are interested I can post fresh information on the techniques and operational methods at work this year. More labs went down in the second half of 2019 than the previous year’s combined.

whaaat?

With the fear mongering. Jesus christ

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I’ve had several orders from here and another awaiting payment. I apologize I’ll post a picture of the flow hood tomorrow

And tomorrow never came. Sounds a lot like someone else we've dealt with.

Please just stay gone.

 

[BigBearLabs]

To what are you referring ? I just restocked deca was going to make a post in the am

 

[BigBearLabs]

Ahhh I see what you quoted. Yes I’m deleting metadata and will post pic

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Ahhh I see what you quoted. Yes I’m deleting metadata and will post pic

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Here @BigBearLabs I’ll say it along with you: “shit, I fucked up”.

Excuses suck and make you look retarded. At least be a man about it and own it.

Fucking teenagers and drug addicts make all kinds of excuses. Businessmen are supposed to just handle their shit. You got no one else to blame but yourself.

 

[BigBearLabs]

I could’ve edited that post but I didn’t because a man owns his mistakes.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Ahhh I see what you quoted. Yes I’m deleting metadata and will post pic

That took a week? i can take a pic and clear meta data within a matter of minutes.

Here's the more likely explanation. Someone mentioned a flow hood. You initially blew it off, but realized you'd have to order one and photograph it to shut them up.

You waited until payday, bought it, but next day delivery was too expensive, so now you, me and everyone else has to play the waiting game until it shows up.

There is nothing original here with Big Bear Labs that we haven't all seen before. You're a copy of a copy.

 

[BigBearLabs]

I am here day after day providing the things I say I will. I apologize if it doesn’t quite fit your deadlines/demands

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I am here day after day providing the things I say I will. I apologize if it doesn’t quite fit your deadlines/demands

I know. It’s a real head-scratcher why you’re not getting more sales, huh.

There’s two basic kinds of labs.

There’s a lab that doesn’t really know what they’re doing, they want to do the absolute Bear minimum, but expect to collect some quick sales so they post up because it’s free here.

Then there’s the good labs that are in it for the longer duration. They post up everything that makes us discerning assholes happy and when it’s all up it leaves us with less questions. So someone pulls the trigger and low and behold it turns out to be good quality at a reasonable price. Sure it also helps that the UGL does what he says, and is professional about it. The MESO circle of trust is complete when a member submits a sample and it tests accurately. That’s when sales fucking take off and you’re Scrooge McDuck diving into your swimming pool filled with bitcoins.

 

[BigBearLabs]

I’ve got testing coming you can ask @janoshik I already paid him. It’s great that you’re discerning and I don’t believe I’m coming up short. I’ve shown I know what I’m doing and been transparent about my process and the upgrades coming.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I’ve got testing coming you can ask @janoshik I already paid him. It’s great that you’re discerning and I don’t believe I’m coming up short. I’ve shown I know what I’m doing and been transparent about my process and the upgrades coming.

You promised that picture. And gave yourself a deadline. That deadline came and went and @MisterSuperGod had to remind you. It might seem like a little whoopsie mistake to you, but you dropped the ball. On one simple thing. You see what kind of image that leaves for us.

 

[BigBearLabs]

I definitely understand how that may look but I’ll be posting an update tomorrow. I’ve implemented a few things people have asked for and a hard deadline for some other things. Depending on how well I can I can figure out removing metadata from a movie I will also post a video of the brewing process from beginning to end, if not it’ll just be pictures.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I am here day after day providing the things I say I will. I apologize if it doesn’t quite fit your deadlines/demands

You're not here day after day, in fact, you're absent more than you're here and you haven't provided dick.

And no need to apologize. This babies first chemistry set setup that you're brewing with will never be good enough to be injected into my body.

 

[BigBearLabs]

Just awaiting delivery of a dispenser with inline filters and we can switch over to the custom crimped tops. Will be implementing holographic labels with batch numbers as well, timeline isnt set but within the next few weeks.

 

[bigrobbie]

@BigBearLabs
The difference I'm seeing between you and solid ugl's is they come correct with the equipment and facilities setup and in place to make quality, sterile gear from the skip.
If you are having to order this, and wait on that then let's face it. You are a homebrewer trying to adapt yourself into a legit source.
You need to maybe wait until you have a lab properly equipped otherwise your gonna fuck someone up and constantly be playing catchup to meet the quality demands of Meso members.
We don't want a source that's still putting their shit together.
Come correct or homebrew for your buddies is the gist of what I'm trying to convey.

 

[BigBearLabs]

We have plenty of stock that’s been properly and safely brewed. We don’t need to upgrade but I do believe upgrading will allow us to more easily handle larger volume and help some people feel more “secure” in their decision to work with us.

 

[iGone]

There’s a lab that doesn’t really know what they’re doing, they want to do the absolute Bear minimum, but expect to collect some quick sales so they post up because it’s free here.

Seems like Bear Minimum would be a fitting name for this guy. But he doesn't even manage to come up with the Bear Minimum to make sales.