Big guys, pencil legs??

Have a good night inquiring mind. FYI, you're far less intimidating and scary than you think. maybe something you can work on when you try to look tough online for next time ;)

I never tried to be anything of the sort. If I scared you, I’m sorry. But you made threats first, I just said I didn’t like you.
Good night hooker.
 
I’m 230lbs...I’m just touching body weight on squats...I think a lot of people unnecessarily think if they can’t to 600lbs then there is no point in even trying to build up to it. On the same token, I see some guys with some massive legs, well striated and vascular. These guys mostly I see them doing weight they can do 10+ reps with. Granted I’m sure there are periods when they are bulking and going for strength, but for the most part I see a lot of high reps, forced reps, negative reps, and static holds, etc.
Whatever, legs should never be skipped!
 
I’m 230lbs...I’m just touching body weight on squats...I think a lot of people unnecessarily think if they can’t to 600lbs then there is no point in even trying to build up to it. On the same token, I see some guys with some massive legs, well striated and vascular. These guys mostly I see them doing weight they can do 10+ reps with. Granted I’m sure there are periods when they are bulking and going for strength, but for the most part I see a lot of high reps, forced reps, negative reps, and static holds, etc.
Whatever, legs should never be skipped!
You gotta learn to manipulate your training. Just for the sake of argument say there are 3 knobs to be turned. Strength, hypertrophy and metabolic training. Each is a very different stimulus. Strength is reps 1-5, paused reps, explosive power etc. Hypertrophy is 6-12 reps, TUT, squeezing the muscle worked. Alot more to hypertrophy than just moving it from A to B. Then you got metabolic training which is basically pump training. Little to no rest between sets, high reps, supersets, giant sets etc.

Each of those knobs has to be manipulated to unlock your potential. Just lifting heavy isnt going to do it. I do it in a variety of ways. Alot lately ive been starting out my Bodypart training with strength work on a traditional compound movement then moving to my hypertrophy work then finishing up with my metabolic training. Some days if things ache too much ill switch it up and do all hypertrophy and metabolic stuff. Some days just strength stuff. See easy. Expose your self to a variety of training, move thru a true ROM with full tension on the muscle being worked with proper form and eat big. Your body will have no choice but to respond. Its how it works. Cant emphasize enough what happens when momentum is taken out of the picture and a muscle is forced to work under load. W/O that concept down pat progressive overload means nothing.
 
I’m 230lbs...I’m just touching body weight on squats...I think a lot of people unnecessarily think if they can’t to 600lbs then there is no point in even trying to build up to it. On the same token, I see some guys with some massive legs, well striated and vascular. These guys mostly I see them doing weight they can do 10+ reps with. Granted I’m sure there are periods when they are bulking and going for strength, but for the most part I see a lot of high reps, forced reps, negative reps, and static holds, etc.
Whatever, legs should never be skipped!
If you ever get the chance, checkout “Damien Patrick” on YouTube. For me, he’s one of my favorite trainers to get tips from. Videos are short and informative. Gives rookies like me some good ideas.
He constantly stresses exactly what your saying with concentration on the negatives, holds, squeezes, etc.
one leg day I liked was he did 6 sets of 10–12 reps with about 80% of his max. Then went into 5 drop sets without locking out.
I copy what I see him do and it’s an insane pump. Another thing is intensity with 30 second rests. Truly gives a great pump
 
That's interesting, but is it relevant for guys that cycle?

OP's question was general and didn't mention on cycle or natty.

Assuming you're cycling, you come off at some point, so should apply.

IIRC, there's also some CNS aspect to deads/squats that benefit you on cycle as well - but I don't have a ready reference there.
 
I’m 230lbs...I’m just touching body weight on squats...I think a lot of people unnecessarily think if they can’t to 600lbs then there is no point in even trying to build up to it. On the same token, I see some guys with some massive legs, well striated and vascular. These guys mostly I see them doing weight they can do 10+ reps with. Granted I’m sure there are periods when they are bulking and going for strength, but for the most part I see a lot of high reps, forced reps, negative reps, and static holds, etc.
Whatever, legs should never be skipped!

I can squat 500+ and my legs aren't even 25". Calves are like 14", lol. Hoping I gain an inch or two by the time I hit 600lbs.
 
You gotta learn to manipulate your training. Just for the sake of argument say there are 3 knobs to be turned. Strength, hypertrophy and metabolic training. Each is a very different stimulus. Strength is reps 1-5, paused reps, explosive power etc. Hypertrophy is 6-12 reps, TUT, squeezing the muscle worked. Alot more to hypertrophy than just moving it from A to B. Then you got metabolic training which is basically pump training. Little to no rest between sets, high reps, supersets, giant sets etc.

Each of those knobs has to be manipulated to unlock your potential. Just lifting heavy isnt going to do it. I do it in a variety of ways. Alot lately ive been starting out my Bodypart training with strength work on a traditional compound movement then moving to my hypertrophy work then finishing up with my metabolic training. Some days if things ache too much ill switch it up and do all hypertrophy and metabolic stuff. Some days just strength stuff. See easy. Expose your self to a variety of training, move thru a true ROM with full tension on the muscle being worked with proper form and eat big. Your body will have no choice but to respond. Its how it works. Cant emphasize enough what happens when momentum is taken out of the picture and a muscle is forced to work under load. W/O that concept down pat progressive overload means nothing.

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Thank you good sir for your words of wisdom are greatly appreciated. No sarcasm, real talk. I love the analogy btw.[/QUOTE]
 
Hes alot bigger. Muscularly anyway. Hes extremely lean and currently chasing down the 307 records. Nobody looks like him and nobody WILL look like him when he dawns 300+ lbs. Hes a mother fuckin monster

Precisely what I meant; that he is lean and not big and round like that PL typically seen. Than again, I don’t think Wheels in any way typical. LOL

Did you ever catch his video taking about how he only takes 500 Test and 150 Anadrol all year round?!
 
Precisely what I meant; that he is lean and not big and round like that PL typically seen. Than again, I don’t think Wheels in any way typical. LOL

Did you ever catch his video taking about how he only takes 500 Test and 150 Anadrol all year round?!
Thought it was a gram and 150 anadrol?
 
First time I saw Larry I thought he'd be the next Ronnie hahah. Guy is a fucking monster... making all his lifts look easy and he's young too. It's absolutely insane.
 
Thought it was a gram and 150 anadrol?

Not sure how to post a link via smartphone but here is a quote from an article online called:
Larry “Wheels” Williams Discusses His History and Current Cycle With Steroids

“But these days, as he prepares to compete in the 242-pound division of the CETC US Open Powerlifting Championships in April, he’s sticking to two steroids: 500 milligrams of testosterone a week and 150 milligrams of anadrol per day.”
 
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