loveyourbody
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Sorry for the no paragraphs on my phone 
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BioLogic Pharmaceuticals
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dbolman
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Looks like everyone is starting to get it. Can I disappear yet?
You guys put too much trust into a stranger. You have no idea who is on the other side of that computer. Be safe with your info too. There's only so much info you can put out there. Stretch acted like this was legal. All in all, be safe everyone. I did this for you guys. Believe me or not. That's up to you... Bottom line is, look what happened. There's your proof.
You guys put too much trust into a stranger. You have no idea who is on the other side of that computer. Be safe with your info too. There's only so much info you can put out there. Stretch acted like this was legal. All in all, be safe everyone. I did this for you guys. Believe me or not. That's up to you... Bottom line is, look what happened. There's your proof.
Bucky
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So some random dude such as yourself (with this particular handle) is supposed to be taken serious when you "warn" us about a particular source that has had nothing but great feedback (at the time you crawled out of the woodwork)? Feedback not only from noobs such as myself, but credible vets who have been around for an long time. Don't pat yourself on the back too hard pal. If you were really doing us a service, you should have done it with your real handle.
"Don't put your trust in a stranger"!!! Did you even think before dropping this profound wisdom on us? The WHOLE STEROID UGL scene is based on this! You are better off saying "save your money fellas. Don't use steroids, there is a chance you could get ripped off in the process." Kick rocks fucker.
Kubrick
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Was he wrong? Last I checked he was pretty fucking spot on. The don't trust strangers comment is the most important lesson of all this IMO. So many talked like biologic could do no wrong. They did so many things wrong. Oh and the Herc thing, I actually believe it. I know you're trying to be tough online but this dude was spot on.
Bucky
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So Kubrick, you know Astro personally? As in face to face transactions. I use him as an example because I believe you have done business with him. Anyone on here could be anybody. Everyone in here is a "stranger" for the most part. There is a risk involved. Dbolman is inferring not to do business with strangers. Using that logic, very few transactions would transpire. Am I wrong in that assumption?
Kubrick
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He sent me a PM and it made perfect sense. I'll just hang out and watch. As far as purchases go, I'm all set for a while. I'll sit on the sidelines and let shit happen the way it happens.
Bucky
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You didn't answer my question.
Kubrick
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I answered your question. I won't be purchasing from anyone. I don't know astro personally no. He is saying not to TRUST a stranger online. A lot of people on here consider stretch a friend despite knowing nothing about him. I see his point. I'm not getting involved anymore and don't want to debate this. Have a good day bro.
Bucky
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I don’t know how much of all this I’m willing to believe, but the pics posted by CBS are pretty convincing. That would make BIO-Stretch-Herc-whoever a serial scammer - willing to trash his business to pull off a scam. The only times that makes financial sense is when you have no real product to sell, or when you have other businesses to move your product. We know he has product, so assuming the serial scammer concept is true, he’s still here.
Candyskull
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DieYoungStrong
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Just for the record, and you can go back to the beginning of the thread to read. I used Bio at the very beginning. I was running Bio gear before this thread even started, and they were private at the time. The referral bullshit had not even started, never mind a full blown open, public source. In fact, you can look towards the beginning of this thread where I light heartedly told Bio to stay private. I wanted them to stay private, but their business is not mine.
I paid for my gear w/ the exception of Var. Stretch insisted he comp me the Var because he wanted personal PM feedback on weather or not it was GTG before it became available to the masses. I agreed. Yes all the Bio gear I ran was good. Cyp, Mast E and Var. I believe, all and all, that there has been very few complaints about actual gear quality.
I haven't ordered anything from Bio since long before they went public. I generally steer clear of public sources. The referral thing was a bit whack to me, because if sending a naked pic of your broad gets you a referral, the source is public...
My personal opinion of the matter is that Bio blew-up way to fast, and didn't have the infrastructure in place to meet the demand, and they went belly-up. It happens all the time, with all different types of businesses. It sucks that there will always be a group of people who get burned while shit hits the fan. It's never acceptable.
Raider72
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Great reply & appreciated. I hope this is not taken as anyone being called out. Just that Stretch was heavily backed in the beggining by seemingly everyone, including some of his no biggest detractors. I am simply trying to figure out when it all unraveled. As a member who at the time was evaluating public sources, Bio was easily the 1st choice & Stretch was the "most trustworthy." I'm thankful for all who exposed the truth
bio exposed the truth- as others have alluded to the gear was good. the c/s was good until they went public based on comments- I was always taken care of... im not sure what you are looking for raider. very few- if any- people got fucked. some delays and low tests and maybe a missing shipment or two- sounds like the "scammer" ran away with a few hundred bucks which would make it the WORST SCAM ever. if I was going to mastermind a caper resembling what you are beating the grass for I would have fucked HUNDREDS of people. these servers would crash with complaints- otherwise whats the fucking point?
I read about hk and his shitty customer service with the rips- the only difference between him and stretch/bio of late is that stretch lets feelings into business. bad mistake- especially when dealing in illegal goods. people get really angry over money to say the least- bullet in you head angry. they cant shoot anyone so they run their mouth here- and they should- even though it is worthless of you are getting a dick in the ass. the dick isn't any less in your ass b ecause you tell everyone about it- you are just helping their cornhole. you still got fucked.
what im getting at is I think stretch is a trusting guy. with previous places (s/f, herc) he bought the kool aid and told everyone else how good it was. others got fucked and he feels a little butthurt because how could he have known, right?
then bio was gonna be different- he had more control. then "personal issues" happened and bio started pissing people off. deja vu. I still fail to see where he profited all that much. in my experience when you kick in a door and wave guns you may or may not get lucky- a shipment may have just arrived... or not. you may come off with nothing.
this internet venue with cultivated trust is different- you can coordinate and virtually guarantee mass fucking for big dollar amounts- and I just dont see where bio did that.
stretch talked a little shit? hurt your feelings? isn't telling you its gonna be ok on an hourly basis? nigga please. I have burned so many people in my earlier years- taken by force or faked (not aas) I am sure glad nobody recorded my exploits in a forum.
so what was the scam? I dont see much here. just a bunch of customers not getting the white glove service they want in a situation that doesn't require white gloves.
im sure hk could care less how you like him or his service. you eventually get it and its good. you will come back.
bio might not fare as well here- they can probably do ok on plenty of other boards. who cares.
so in honor of the dead horse gif- what scam? just poor customer service and communication at bio.
written on a phone. please excuse grammatical nightmare that was probably created.
I read about hk and his shitty customer service with the rips- the only difference between him and stretch/bio of late is that stretch lets feelings into business. bad mistake- especially when dealing in illegal goods. people get really angry over money to say the least- bullet in you head angry. they cant shoot anyone so they run their mouth here- and they should- even though it is worthless of you are getting a dick in the ass. the dick isn't any less in your ass b ecause you tell everyone about it- you are just helping their cornhole. you still got fucked.
what im getting at is I think stretch is a trusting guy. with previous places (s/f, herc) he bought the kool aid and told everyone else how good it was. others got fucked and he feels a little butthurt because how could he have known, right?
then bio was gonna be different- he had more control. then "personal issues" happened and bio started pissing people off. deja vu. I still fail to see where he profited all that much. in my experience when you kick in a door and wave guns you may or may not get lucky- a shipment may have just arrived... or not. you may come off with nothing.
this internet venue with cultivated trust is different- you can coordinate and virtually guarantee mass fucking for big dollar amounts- and I just dont see where bio did that.
stretch talked a little shit? hurt your feelings? isn't telling you its gonna be ok on an hourly basis? nigga please. I have burned so many people in my earlier years- taken by force or faked (not aas) I am sure glad nobody recorded my exploits in a forum.
so what was the scam? I dont see much here. just a bunch of customers not getting the white glove service they want in a situation that doesn't require white gloves.
im sure hk could care less how you like him or his service. you eventually get it and its good. you will come back.
bio might not fare as well here- they can probably do ok on plenty of other boards. who cares.
so in honor of the dead horse gif- what scam? just poor customer service and communication at bio.
written on a phone. please excuse grammatical nightmare that was probably created.
It's been a couple months for me but his TestE and other gear was g2g. I did labmax test and know from experience that his Var was very good. I'm glad I stocked up on it back then.
smiles
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I have to give credit when credit is deserved... I see method of your madness now.. CBS put them pic on front street tells it all, that put the last nail in the coffin right there..
psychocircus
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thanks man
I'm right here Raider! What would you like to know?
I started this thread. So, I guess you think I need to give some explanation why shit went South. Well, I can't tell you why. I don't have a clue why this UGL became such a disaster. I can only read all the posts as you have and make my own assumptions.
I ran one cycle with Bio products and did a review. Never did I use them again. I did not use them again because for most of us older guys on here that have been around a long while use private sources and we don't like to share with many. My long time source wants to come on here now and go public and I begged him not to do so. It's a lot easier to control and manage a few variables over a hunderd.
I think what has happened is bullshit. Is this the first time? Nope. Is it the last? Nope. Just the name of the game.
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