BioLogic Pharmaceuticals

If you were around I would ask to borrow one of your hand guns so I could blown my fucking brains out. I can't and won't read another post about frank
I like your posts Peri...would u consider a quick pm to me with just one word "Frank" so I will know to skip that post from you, please?[/QUOTE]

I believe he was responding to this my friend.
 
Ben,

There are many IFBB pros and MMA pros on Bio. I will see if is OK to let their names out.

If you could point me in the right direction I would absolutely give your sources a look. I trust you 100%. However, not sure where I made the post, but my bottom line is results for me and the people I work with. I am sure people understand the term "work with." For the top, top guys, work with means running their gear and diuretics program. Of course that does involve me looking at their training and diet, as those things affect the gear choices.

For example, some people favor lower carb diets, and less cardio. For them, that affects how much tren they are on. They need to do more. Personally, and keep in mind I went the low carb only 30 minutes a day of cardio rout , for 10 shows, and it did not work for me. Cycling much higher amounts of carbs (550, 450, 350, 300, 250) w/ 2 hours of cardio worked for me. It has been my experience that most people need more food and cardio. I did a consult w/ Flavio Baccianini and he wanted me at 1 hour cardio/day @ the 12 week out mark.

Lets go back to the quality issue. 20 years ago, my best friend whould go to Mexico, and bring back all pharmaceutical gear (remember the redi-jects sustenon)? I ran pharm for 2 shows, and yes it was good.

Having said that, did you read my post about the results I have gotten from Bio gear? Phenomenal. I have script test. I have started a cycle w/it, ran it alone for a while. I did the same w/ the Bio and it was 100% as good, actually the T 300 is better (250 test c, 50 prop...pharm is 200). I am 244 lbs, up from 228. My body fat has gone from 19% to under 14%.

Why would I want to fuck w/ these results?

I am not going to fix something that is not broken. I am going to dance w/ the person "who brung me."

And now I am sure there will come a chorus of insults and flames. I have no problem w/ that. What other people think about me is none of my business.

In regards to the claim that Stretch and Bio are the same, they are not. In fact their relationship is ruined. Stretch lives near Detroit, the worst city in America, and Bio lives in a beautiful city. I lived in that city for 8 years. Bio the owner, in just our online conversations knows every detail of that city, knows what happened to clubs I used to work at. He knows many MMA pros I am familiar w/He knows guys I know from the Ceaser and Ralph Gracie camp. He has run programs for many MMA pros. There is absolutely no way Stretch would know these facts.

Barring something





You are correct in my not running with and pro or even amateur competitive bb's. Back in the early 2000's and again in and around 2005 there were 3 guys, 2 who were state level and 1 was while not a top level national competitor he was on that level for a short time.
I wasn't involved with their training or diets or anything. I was involved to a degree because of my connections. I've always had or have been a connection for sought after and hard to find drugs of all kinds. Still am. Some guys here are aware.
I didn't hang with those 3 people for too long because they and many today have people falling over themselves to be recognized and accepted by them. Groupies. Weird sex shit in many cases. Me, I like folks and they like me. But I'm not star struck and am motivated by different things. I didn't care about being seen with these guys or hang back stage. I've always been in it to eat. I enjoy being paid.
IMO, you know all the training and dieting and I can see you motivating many. What you lack are connections for what may be the only thing missing with some or one of your people. I'm not trying to be a wise guy but your connections either suck or they are nonexistent. I know this to be a fact. You've got all the rest but you need a drug guy. I know your connects. Trust me, I do. You can only guess and dream of having mine and of some others here,
Rips and BIO gear for a pro is straight ghetto. I'm telling you. Your boy frank makes 250k and he's using that garbage and not pharm grade when it is produced in the compound you are using is a waste of potential and time. I hope it's not your ego keeping them from the good shit. Cuz it's within reach. Step aside and give yourself and your people a gift and get the garbage out and let the top shelf shit work its magic my friend.
 
Ben,

There are many IFBB pros and MMA pros on Bio. I will see if is OK to let their names out.

If you could point me in the right direction I would absolutely give your sources a look. I trust you 100%. However, not sure where I made the post, but my bottom line is results for me and the people I work with. I am sure people understand the term "work with." For the top, top guys, work with means running their gear and diuretics program. Of course that does involve me looking at their training and diet, as those things affect the gear choices.

For example, some people favor lower carb diets, and less cardio. For them, that affects how much tren they are on. They need to do more. Personally, and keep in mind I went the low carb only 30 minutes a day of cardio rout , for 10 shows, and it did not work for me. Cycling much higher amounts of carbs (550, 450, 350, 300, 250) w/ 2 hours of cardio worked for me. It has been my experience that most people need more food and cardio. I did a consult w/ Flavio Baccianini and he wanted me at 1 hour cardio/day @ the 12 week out mark.

Lets go back to the quality issue. 20 years ago, my best friend whould go to Mexico, and bring back all pharmaceutical gear (remember the redi-jects sustenon)? I ran pharm for 2 shows, and yes it was good.

Having said that, did you read my post about the results I have gotten from Bio gear? Phenomenal. I have script test. I have started a cycle w/it, ran it alone for a while. I did the same w/ the Bio and it was 100% as good, actually the T 300 is better (250 test c, 50 prop...pharm is 200). I am 244 lbs, up from 228. My body fat has gone from 19% to under 14%.

Why would I want to fuck w/ these results?

I am not going to fix something that is not broken. I am going to dance w/ the person "who brung me."

And now I am sure there will come a chorus of insults and flames. I have no problem w/ that. What other people think about me is none of my business.

In regards to the claim that Stretch and Bio are the same, they are not. In fact their relationship is ruined. Stretch lives near Detroit, the worst city in America, and Bio lives in a beautiful city. I lived in that city for 8 years. Bio the owner, in just our online conversations knows every detail of that city, knows what happened to clubs I used to work at. He knows many MMA pros I am familiar w/He knows guys I know from the Ceaser and Ralph Gracie camp. He has run programs for many MMA pros. There is absolutely no way Stretch would know these facts.

Barring something

I don't know about the bio thing. I do know that it's clear to me that you know your business, no doubt. I don't know the timing with water and carbs that you do. I admire the physiques the guys construct. One thing that I believe and that irks many, especially those that compete in contests,
I don't consider most of them athletes. Now yourself with the grappling etc clearly are. Phil Heath...baller Div 1 or 2 and some others. For a great many hand eye coordination on their part consists of walking and chewing gum at the same time. I'm no super athlete,,,,Div 3 football was the pinnacle of my career. Of course there are no scholarships to be awarded and
 
Ben,

There are many IFBB pros and MMA pros on Bio. I will see if is OK to let their names out.

Come on, PC! Surely you're not that stupid. I can say there are many pros on xyz gear - so what? It proves nothing. Unless these pros come forward and admit it publically (and we all know that ain't gonna happen), there is no proof. Period.

All you are doing is shilling for a source. I'm sure you're getting a significant discount and you've become a de facto rep.

[snipped a load of PC horse shit]


Having said that, did you read my post about the results I have gotten from Bio gear? Phenomenal. I have script test. I have started a cycle w/it, ran it alone for a while. I did the same w/ the Bio and it was 100% as good, actually the T 300 is better (250 test c, 50 prop...pharm is 200). I am 244 lbs, up from 228. My body fat has gone from 19% to under 14%.

Why would I want to fuck w/ these results?

I am not going to fix something that is not broken. I am going to dance w/ the person "who brung me."

Bio doesn't have some magical ingredient in their gear. And I can guarantee you the quality is not that great compared to some of the truly private ugls that the pros are really using. Just because Bio's gear is the best you've ever had doesn't mean there isn't better gear out there.



And now I am sure there will come a chorus of insults and flames. I have no problem w/ that. What other people think about me is none of my business.

The only flame you'll hear from me on this matter is one of pity.

In regards to the claim that Stretch and Bio are the same, they are not. In fact their relationship is ruined. Stretch lives near Detroit, the worst city in America, and Bio lives in a beautiful city. I lived in that city for 8 years. Bio the owner, in just our online conversations knows every detail of that city, knows what happened to clubs I used to work at. He knows many MMA pros I am familiar w/He knows guys I know from the Ceaser and Ralph Gracie camp. He has run programs for many MMA pros. There is absolutely no way Stretch would know these facts.

Doesn't prove this guy currently lives in a city other than Detroit. I'm left speechless that someone with your "supposed" level of education could be so gullible. You are so far out of your depth that you are going to get burned in a spectacular fashion. You have NO idea of the kind of person you're dealing with.

CBS
 
Bio doesn't have some magical ingredient in their gear. And I can guarantee you the quality is not that great compared to some of the truly private ugls that the pros are really using.

This is true. None of these labs have "secret" recipes. You either have access to good Raws or you don't. I was sick of hearing how magical Bio gear was. It was so good the numbers came back low on blood tests :rolleyes: A lot of you guys are smarter than you are acting. Why throw it all out the window for a handle named "stretch"? You don't even know the real guy. What's his real name? Exactly.
 
I lived in the city for more than 9 years. Was a bike messenger. Trust me, I know every crevice of this city. I worked the doors at several places (20 years ago) and the Bio owner knows them, told me what happened (most have closed) which I confirmed w/ a call. There is no way someone can fake this knowledge. He knows many of the profighters, and some guys from Cesar Gracie's dojo. He has done programs for some of them.

These were emails sent back and fourth w/ in a few minutes of each other. Are you telling my that he was collecting info in the 3 minutes it took to get back to me. The guy lives there, there is no way someone would know what he knows if not.

Of course, I really have no interest in this^ argument. It in now way affects me, and god bless you for expressing your opinion.

In regards to quality, did you miss me stating that 20 years ago, I used 100% pharm gear, except for the tren I brewed from pellets? Sustenon redijects, sten, etc. I have a script for test now, and the Bio 300 has more of a kick then. You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to not care what you think.
Finally, you say that Bio gear is not that great compared to other UGL's?

You have done Bio, then, I take. If not you have now lost any credibility you have ever had. Seriously, you are done, game, set, and match. The only tiny tiny bit of cred you might bhave is to post up your picture. When I posted mine, you said I was a lard ass. The easiest and best way to settle this is to post and compare. Post a current ic of your self, I will post mine. If you physique is better than mine, then maybe you then can give you opinion.

Of course we all know that you will dick tuck, and you are excellent in terms of weaseling out of such things.


Come on, PC! Surely you're not that stupid. I can say there are many pros on xyz gear - so what? It proves nothing. Unless these pros come forward and admit it publically (and we all know that ain't gonna happen), there is no proof. Period.

All you are doing is shilling for a source. I'm sure you're getting a significant discount and you've become a de facto rep.

[snipped a load of PC horse shit]




Bio doesn't have some magical ingredient in their gear. And I can guarantee you the quality is not that great compared to some of the truly private ugls that the pros are really using. Just because Bio's gear is the best you've ever had doesn't mean there isn't better gear out there.





The only flame you'll hear from me on this matter is one of pity.



Doesn't prove this guy currently lives in a city other than Detroit. I'm left speechless that someone with your "supposed" level of education could be so gullible. You are so far out of your depth that you are going to get burned in a spectacular fashion. You have NO idea of the kind of person you're dealing with.

CBS
 
See what I mean? Same people, same words and no facts... Im going to fuck you bro. Im telling you... You have no idea. I am the one person that can discredit you on here with proof. This was Stretch's gig. Not mine. I am somebody else. I can assure you. As I said our distribution center is in Venezuela which you chimed in and called bullshit on. So just like the fridge full of Nord Pens that I posted I will prove your ass wrong again. This time we will go into the distribution center holding up your flag. And if you really dont believe me you can take a flight to Caracas. In baggage claim just hold up a sign with biggerben or CBS.... Do you know about Caracas Papi? You dont get it.. I am one to call your bullshit. You give me words/cartoons and I give you pics and video. The more and more words you have and the more real shit I show, will tell it all. Every time you post I get a new email from someone on the boards asking details. This is the real question. How come you spend so much time on Bio Post and not your own? I think its pretty obvious. Next pic of Nords are going to be 100 Pens. Can you get that quantity? No you cant. I will send one to Dr. Jim so he can check your prostate with it. Name any brand Medication and I will have that in distribution quantity within a week. Not talking.. pictures... with your flag on it. Can you do that? Bet you think I am a guy too. Come to VN Papi... You will get a private escort. I will make sure of it. You got words, we have products. Solo Malditos perdedores gastan el tiempo hablando de otros.

Wow.. I just read this.

You see this thread right here:

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134343455

Thats me documenting an infection I got from YOUR labs gear.

Do you really believe your the only Lab in the world ?

You really think quality HGH and Anabolic's are only available from you in this world ?

Your clearly not that great. I got an infection and 3 weeks of diarrhea from the antibiotics.

Your attitude overall stinks. This reminds me of when I was in Iraq and this girl I was dating broke up with me. She never liked that I was the dominant one. She was a bit crazy. Thats another story. She said to me.. "Watch when you get back you'll come running back to me."

I came back bigger, stronger and leaner and she was the one crying outside my house (she waited for me to come outside for hours) as I walked to the car where
I had one of my new girls pick me up. Moral of the story is don't think your the best. Your not. There is plenty of pussy (labs) in the world.

You need to do some serious reflection. Although I am beginning to think your a sociopath.
 
Of course, I really have no interest in this^ argument. It in now way affects me, and god bless you for expressing your opinion.

You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to not care what you think.

You are right, I'm entitled to have an opinion. You, as a REP for Bio ARE NOT.

Either accept you have a conflict of interest and refrain from promoting this lab or I will follow behind every post you make and discredit you as a rep.

Your choice.

CBS
 
Ben, you should get into martial arts. I love, love, love training. You are a very big strong guy, so the first thing to do is leave ego at the door. If a guy is new, big and strong many don't liek to roll w/ them because they spaz out, and even a highly skiled guy can get hurt. 99% of the time the really good grppler will then slap a nasty submission on you, breaking something before you tap.

I like to hav everyone in my class tap the mat, me included. I then say "we have all already tapped, so we need not be concerned about tapping again."

Another thing: There are to approaches to training. You can go directly to an MMA school, and do bjj one day, stand up striking the other, and wrestling the other. Also, new guys tend to get the shit beat out of them, by all the 20 something MMA wannabees. I prefer another way. Go to a specialized BJJ school. Devote 1 year, 3 days a week. You will then have a solid foundation in BJJ. Groundfighting is 30% of overall fighting (assuming mo weapons). 40% of fighting is stand up fighting/striking. If you can pick only 1, MThai is, IMO the best boverall. Boxers have better hands, but MT uses hands, elbows, knees and feet. That is why it is called the "8 limb art" Do a year of MT or Kickboxing. If MT, think about doing 6 months or so of boxing to polish your skill set. In each, do not start sparring immediately, learn your fundamentals first. You need to do some sparring, around 80 rounds. However, too many rounds can cause pugilistic dementia

Finally, do some wrestling (30% of fighting). Wrestling and Judo are, (not counting pugilistic dementia) are probably the most dangerous M art. because a lot of injuries come from getting tossed. It is a brutal way to end a fight, tossing someone head first on to the concrete.

Finally, since you cannot own a gun (you are in CA...only criminals have guns there, yes?) Look into FMA. Philippino stick fighting/knife is DEVASTATING. If a mad pinoy comes at you w/ a knife, either shoot him or run. I love it. FMA can be hard to find, as they don't want to share their Art w/ white-boys.

I have my whole household doing flow drills w/ me nowadays.

I don't know about the bio thing. I do know that it's clear to me that you know your business, no doubt. I don't know the timing with water and carbs that you do. I admire the physiques the guys construct. One thing that I believe and that irks many, especially those that compete in contests,
I don't consider most of them athletes. Now yourself with the grappling etc clearly are. Phil Heath...baller Div 1 or 2 and some others. For a great many hand eye coordination on their part consists of walking and chewing gum at the same time. I'm no super athlete,,,,Div 3 football was the pinnacle of my career. Of course there are no scholarships to be awarded and
 
I would like to see pictures... it has nothing to do with bio, just simply for the sake of seeing pictures.

Here. Have a look at early Pamela Anderson and fantasize about what used to be.

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CBS -
Yes, the good old days, before Tommy Lee beat that thing with a stick...a very, large, stick.



Remember when Borat tried to kidnap her?

Borat (getting autographs) can you sign to Botak (sic) the rapist

Borat "will you marry me?"

Pamela: "No thanks."

Borat: Agreement not necessary."

Pamela, shrieking as she runs away, Borat : Pamela, I will give you your own plow"

borat pamela anderson scene - Yahoo Search Results
 
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