Blasting & Cruising & having kids

[Jamie Sutherland]

Hi guys,

Quick question about what I should do... Basically I'm considering blasting & cruising. I want to compete next year & I want to take this as far as I can in the future. After having done some research I've really been sold the idea of blasting and cruising. Less chance of losing muscle in between blasts and no shitty pct period. Also I'm completely fine with having to pin for the rest of my days.. I want to put on as much mass as I can this year and then compete next year.

However, I probably will also want to have a kid in the future so I want to be cautious in regards to that.

I've done a cycle of 500mg test for 10 weeks then came off and pct'd. I'm now in the midst of my 2nd cycle (test only again). I've been doing some reading on HCG which I've never used as of yet. I definitely want to start using HCG to keep everything working while on cycle so I don't fuck up my chances of having a kid in the future.

So my question is, If I start using HCG now, 8 weeks in to my cycle (And keep using it), should this be enough to keep everything working for Me? Or would it be better to come off, get my natural production back and them go back on cycle using HCG from the off set. Will it make any difference.

Just asking because I've seen a lot of mixed opinions on this on various different forums.

Thanks in advance!

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

damn. The first time i EVER pinned was a doctor prescribed trt dose and he did it for me. Shortly after i started cycling. Idk why a perfectly normal man coming up thru life would WANT to pin for the rest of his days? Life changes my man. In your thirties you may not even be involved in this lifestyle. A good chance of that actually. And before you get all excited about TRT like its the holy grail of adding and keeping muscle mass lemme break it down real quick. TRT is designed to keep the SAME TT lvls as any healthy normal male. No advantage there

Lemme guess you didnt mean TRT. You meant ABUSE. GOTCHA. One never ending cycle fluctuating between HIGH doses and low(er) doses. Shouldnt have to tell you thats not a great idea. But youll do it any way. GL

 

[Apexvallen]

If you want kids, you will want to stop steroids immediately. The next best thing is cycling. Blast and cruise will negatively affect your sperm count almost no doubt.

Its such a big decision. You need months and months and months of thinking to decide for yourself. No one here can really give you any insight. Its your life. Consider how many jacked dudes there are that cycle. Its most certainly not necessary to be on TRT to keep muscle gains during PCT and off cycle.

 

[Ironlord]

Idk... I've created 3 of my kids while on cycle, without HCG, so.....

 

[SauceBoss]

Everyone is different .. but look at it this way .. if Boston lloyd was able to come off for a month or so and take HCG and FSH snd have a kid that fast then anyone can do it.. I am nervous too but I will cross that bridge when I get there ..

 

[SauceBoss]

Read studies on HCG and FSH .. makes me feel a lot better about my juicing

 

[grey]

if Boston lloyd was able to come off for a month or so and take hcg and FSH snd have a kid that fast then anyone can do it..

Good lord no... Survivor bias man... 1 guy succeeds and he will talk about it. The endless parade of people who failed to have kids just end up divorced/childless and silent about it.

Christ, that's like taking Kevin Smith's advice on how to become a filmmaker.

 

[JayBigJ]

I am waiting until my wife is pregnant again before I even start cycling. I don't want to take any chances and possibly ruin the relationship. Steroid use can be life altering so I am in no rush

 

[JohnnyD]

Everyone is different, some can get their girl pregnant on cycle, others end up with a zero sperm count. There isn’t a one size fits all answer.
My own situation, I took clomid, came off everything, had a super high sperm count and good quality and it didn’t matter because my wife was the one with the issues, so you never know. Now I have kids but it was a struggle.
Also at age 22, I’d seriously rethink the whole Being on trt for life. Honestly in a few years you might not even lift anymore, who knows, life tends to get in the way at your age

 

[bob hughes]

There’s no way to tell. Ive read of guys fathering multiple children while using heavy doses of aas with no hcg. And of guys on Dr. prescribed TRT trying to conceive, trying to stay on TRT and using Clomid and hCG, but still with zero sperm count and having to go completely off TRT. I think the jury is still out, but it seems to vary from man-to-man. Like everything else with AAS. I’m on trt and 500 iu hcg twice weekly and trying to conceive now, but I’ve cycled recently so we will see. If it doesn’t happen soon, I’ll probably do an at-home test first, and then if necessary go see a specialist and maybe have to come off TRT at least temporarily. From what I’ve read most guys, if they come completely off and do a restart, can restore fertility. But it’s definitely not a guarantee.

 

[GIVEitUP]

I can tell from experience it's drastically affected my ability to make babies before cruising I could look at her the wrong way and knock her up now I leave it inn and she's not getting pregnant we have 2 kids 6 and 11 years old now this year she wanted to try for another one I was actually thinking of starting a thread on what to try with out coming off trt dose I can't take coming off my natty t is in the low 200's

 

[GIVEitUP]

Oh yeah op as others said trt isn't all it's cracked up to be if I could achieve good natural levels I wouldn't have started it but if levels are shitty in my opinion it's the best thing I done feel like a new man

 

[SauceBoss]

Good lord no... Survivor bias man... 1 guy succeeds and he will talk about it. The endless parade of people who failed to have kids just end up divorced/childless and silent about it.

Christ, that's like taking Kevin Smith's advice on how to become a filmmaker.

Well that was kind of like a "haha" thing about Boston lloyds outrageous steroid abuse and stilll having a child.. either way when you start anything in life your taking a chance .. a gamble .. if the juice is worth the squeeze then you go for it you'll eventually have to answer for it , or maybe skate free.. to each his own brother .

 

[ironwill1951]

we have a 22 yr old kid here on his first cycle that is all excited about using aas and competing,
he thinks trt is easy but also wants to be a father I dont think he is mature enough for either.

 

[theprodgicalson]

we have a 22 yr old kid here on his first cycle that is all excited about using aas and competing,
he thinks trt is easy but also wants to be a father I dont think he is mature enough for either.

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