[blood work] Test E-Testobolin Vials Alpha Pharma

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just trying to help the community.. i don't post as a source just as a member

protocol
1-9 500 mg week ( monday-thursday)
fev weeks ago i posted results >1190 i didint know on hospital dont show full results just max level ..

in week 6 i have 10 days with out injection (car accident)

blood was drawn 39-40 h after pin

total 2970 348-1197
free. 48.0 8.7-25.1
estro 136 40-115
 

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Looks under dosed according to the 10X rule that most are using to benchmark these results.
 
So this was 40 hours after a 250 mg pin? Also, was this from domestic supply?

This doesn't look under dosed to me at all. It is very consistent with what I draw from my TRT labs (which is pharma grade test).
 
Yes was 40 h after 250 mg I cant wait longer becouse I have trip on vacation..

And on week 6 I have 10 days with out pin ( I was on hospital car accident)
 
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Looks under dosed according to the 10X rule that most are using to benchmark these results.
Assuming the 10x rule is valid (which it isn't) he would have had to take all 500 mg in one dose and test it's peak.

Also, per Dr Jim, if he used an AI the 10x rule isn't applicable.
 
Yes was 40 h after 250 mg I cant wait longer becouse I have trip on vacation..

And on week 6 I have 10 days with out pin ( I was on hospital car accident)
Do you have past bloods from other labs to compare to? IMO these look pretty good.
 
Assuming the 10x rule is valid (which it isn't) he would have had to take all 500 mg in one dose and test it's peak.

Also, per Dr Jim, if he used an AI the 10x rule isn't applicable.

I had my bloods done with single dose pins once a week and they came out really close to other members on the exact same gear that were pinning twice a week. So I honestly don't think that has a lot to do with it.
 
Do you have past bloods from other labs to compare to? IMO these look pretty good.
yes i keeped all my blood test from fev years .. its was from hospital ..... and my basic test level on off is very low just 220ng

about 10x test level i never see thats high score even after pharmacy test
 
yes i keeped all my blood test from fev years .. its was from hospital ..... and my basic test level on off is very low just 220ng

about 10x test level i never see thats high score even after pharmacy test
that is my point. You can compare AP to pharmacy test to gage it's accuracy. It would help if you posted that data too. A lot of the guys here have some arbitrary value in their head and might not interpret your results accordingly.
 
Assuming the 10x rule is valid (which it isn't) he would have had to take all 500 mg in one dose and test it's peak.

Also, per Dr Jim, if he used an AI the 10x rule isn't applicable.


Jack, you are spouting nonsense. First off, i'll take Scally's years of experience with all levels of test over your trt doses. Most of the people on this board are talking about or dealing with numbers far above what you are talking about. I personally could give a rat's ass about trt levels.

Usually when i see guys posting trt numbers they are not done by our accepted protocol and half the time they are numbers which include their normal test production on top of hcg or some other bullshit. I have seen guys post trt numbers from week 1. That is rather pointless.

Then we have you talking out your ass about how the 250 pin is what you should apply the x10 to. No, you fail at math. By week 5 or 6 his blood levels will have stabilized at whatever he is taking per week. The previous injections have stacked up and he is running full bore, or at least as good of a peak as he is going to see on 500mg a week. check out the pct calculator and it will give you a rough estimate of what is floating around your bloodstream and on what day the peaks and troughs are expected to occur.

I too would say it looks to be around 60%, and yes, i was actually a math major. Not that you need higher level math to figure that out, unless you are like Jack who wants to tell himself it is all good and just like pharma...lol. Give me a freaking break. Guys talking about pharma grade shit that are taking watson at a 100mg a week clip are like listening to guys telling people about their deadlift form when they sport a 225 pound deadlift. It isn't at the same level.
 
Jack, you are spouting nonsense. First off, i'll take Scally's years of experience with all levels of test over your trt doses. Most of the people on this board are talking about or dealing with numbers far above what you are talking about. I personally could give a rat's ass about trt levels.

Usually when i see guys posting trt numbers they are not done by our accepted protocol and half the time they are numbers which include their normal test production on top of hcg or some other bullshit. I have seen guys post trt numbers from week 1. That is rather pointless.

Then we have you talking out your ass about how the 250 pin is what you should apply the x10 to. No, you fail at math. By week 5 or 6 his blood levels will have stabilized at whatever he is taking per week. The previous injections have stacked up and he is running full bore, or at least as good of a peak as he is going to see on 500mg a week. check out the pct calculator and it will give you a rough estimate of what is floating around your bloodstream and on what day the peaks and troughs are expected to occur.

I too would say it looks to be around 60%, and yes, i was actually a math major. Not that you need higher level math to figure that out, unless you are like Jack who wants to tell himself it is all good and just like pharma...lol. Give me a freaking break. Guys talking about pharma grade shit that are taking watson at a 100mg a week clip are like listening to guys telling people about their deadlift form when they sport a 225 pound deadlift. It isn't at the same level.


I don't even know where to begin.

1) on TRT you don't have natural test. Scally's OBSERVATIONS where based on TRT patients anyways, genius

2) I know levels will be saturated by week 6. If you inject 250 mg on Monday, given an 8 day half life, than inject 250 on Thursday and test on Friday the half life on Mondays injection is past peak levels

3) Scally himself made an observation. You misinterpreted it as objective.

4) Go fuck yourself.
 
I don't even know where to begin.

1) on TRT you don't have natural test. Scally's OBSERVATIONS where based on TRT patients anyways, genius

2) I know levels will be saturated by week 6. If you inject 250 mg on Monday, given an 8 day half life, than inject 250 on Thursday and test on Friday the half life on Mondays injection is past peak levels

3) Scally himself made an observation. You misinterpreted it as objective.

4) Go fuck yourself.


How in the hell is it "past" peak levels? Peak is the peak. My point about your natural test levels is still valid. 100mg isn't going to shut you down in a week. So when people test at the end of week 1 it is going to give mixed results...some of your own and some of what you are pinning. If you test on more than a trt guy would be taking, like say 750mg of test...at week 5 or 6 it will be at 8-10x that if you are taking pharma grade gear. Is you are outside of this it is crap gear or you are outside the norm for another reason.

The ugl's would love for us to believe 5x is "normal" The only thing that is normal is their craptastic powders and lack of quality control and testing. It is all guesswork and faith for them, even if they care...which most do not. If they can sell canola oil and make a buck they will and many have.

The last 3 posts i have read by trt guys are just muddying the waters by posting bullshit. Most are testing on the wrong days such as a trough, taking it once a week, taking hcg and who the hell knows what else and doing nothing to add to the cumulative data. The 8-10x rule is for guys not taking 15 ancillaries, trying to maintain blood levels at peak without huge dips or spikes, and is an effort to try and gather data to give us an idea of what the numbers should look like given the testing protocol. When people don't follow the protocol and just throw random data out there for shits and grins it does not help.
 
If you test on more than a trt guy would be taking, like say 750mg of test...at week 5 or 6 it will be at 8-10x that if you are taking pharma grade gear. Is you are outside of this it is crap gear or you are outside the norm for another reason.
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How do you know that? Where is their evidence to support this 10x rule?

The blood work I have observed from TRT patients (I only use them as a yard stick becuase they are on pharma test), is not consistent with that assertion at all. I don't know anyone who tests after 1 week. Doctors typically wait 5 or 6 weeks before your first round of bloods.

I have 8 blood draws since being on TRT and never once have I hit 10x. In highest I have hit was 7x.

You have been brain washed by meso my man.
 
Just to throw my two cents in......I have seen lotsa bloods on pharm gear. Usually high 7-8x. UGL avg I'd guess around 4-6x.....
True and 2970 ng its very good score... thinking will by little higher when in dont missing 10 days in weeks 6
 
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