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Bulk or cut? I believe my TDEE has been underestimated by the calculator, maybe I train more intensely or maybe I have a fast metabolism (but my diet is 100% accurate) and I could have been at maintenance or 100 caloric surplus for a long period of time thinking I am at a +500 surplus. I have added more calories now, and noticed my weights going up, also got a scale to track the body weight and I am noticing a 400-600g increase per week. Maybe this explains why I have not been able to put so much muscle.

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You look skinny fat, your love handles are most probably hormone related. Did you check your estrogen levels? Do you take any AI?

Looking at your other thread, you should drop the deca. Try something like 500 test 300 masteron instead. Also maybe try another source, just to be sure.
 
runway said:
You look skinny fat, your love handles are most probably hormone related. Did you check your estrogen levels? Do you take any AI?

Looking at your other thread, you should drop the deca. Try something like 500 test 300 masteron instead. Also maybe try another source, just to be sure.
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Hi. My estrogen levels are normal. I take 0.25mg twice a week. Not gonna lie, for some time it was out of balance and got back acne, but it is going now.. so I am mostly acne free. I will make sure to keep an eye on E2 every two weeks.

Okay. I am already dropping the deca. My sources are okay! but I was thinking about tren instead of mast, what do you think?
 
runway said:
You look skinny fat, your love handles are most probably hormone related. Did you check your estrogen levels? Do you take any AI?

Looking at your other thread, you should drop the deca. Try something like 500 test 300 masteron instead. Also maybe try another source, just to be sure.
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And sorry, you did not indicate whether that test and mast should be accompanied by a surplus diet or a deficit diet?
 
If that was my body with my goals I’d cut on TRT until I was really lean then blast for a bulk.

It’s what I’m doing now.

If you bulk you’re gonna get reallll sloppy quick and that comes with all kind of issues, not just visuals.

Edit: I’d also dial in nutrition better and look real hard at what I’m doing in the gym. It doesn’t look like you hit much more than arms.
 
Fattyone said:
If that was my body with my goals I’d cut on TRT until I was really lean then blast for a bulk.

It’s what I’m doing now.

If you bulk you’re gonna get reallll sloppy quick and that comes with all kind of issues, not just visuals.

Edit: I’d also dial in nutrition better and look real hard at what I’m doing in the gym. It doesn’t look like you hit much more than arms.
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Thanks for the input! Would you consider adding clen or Anavar? Will do.
 
fqa2 said:
Thanks for the input! Would you consider adding clen or Anavar? Will do.
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There’s a time and place for drugs in a cut and IMO, you’re not there. You’re actually in a spot where no drugs will work great with just diet and exercise. It’s that last little bit where you gotta start getting creative, but I don’t feel that’s where you’re at.

Don’t get me wrong, I love drugs as much as the next guy but we’ve got to find balance or we’ll end up in an early grave or living a life where we can’t focus on making our bodies look better.

You’ll also get farther by trying to make more out of less.
If you start hot right out of the gate.. there’s nowhere to go.
 
fqa2 said:
I have a hereditary neuropathy and it causes muscle atrophy. Scientifically, test helps with nerve regeneration and muscle growth.
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You have any blood work? Drop down to 200 mg/week Test ester and get some blood work in 5 weeks. You take 0.25 mg of what twice a week?

Are you under the care of a physician?
 
readalot said:
You have any blood work? Drop down to 200 mg/week Test ester and get some blood work in 5 weeks. You take 0.25 mg of what twice a week?

Are you under the care of a physician?
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I take 0.25mg arimidex twice a week. I was checking my hpylori lask week in a walk-in clinic (I am new in Canada) and asked for prolactin and estrogen and he said they are fine, but my prolactin is a biiitt low because of the dostinex I took. I asked for a total test but when I went to the labs, I noticed he did not write it down but I am gonna do one to check my test levels.

No. I am not.

Okay! will do 200mg, and should I be in -500 deficit or higher?
 
fqa2 said:
I take 0.25mg arimidex twice a week. I was checking my hpylori lask week in a walk-in clinic (I am new in Canada) and asked for prolactin and estrogen and he said they are fine, but my prolactin is a biiitt low because of the dostinex I took. I asked for a total test but when I went to the labs, I noticed he did not write it down but I am gonna do one to check my test levels.

No. I am not.
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When you have bloodwork post it. So you were taking arimidex without bloodwork to guide you?

Look forward to seeing your blood work. Make sure you get LCMS for TT, SHBG, and FT by equilibrium dialysis. At the least get LCMS for TT since you are using additional AAS.
 
readalot said:
When you have bloodwork post it. So you were taking arimidex without bloodwork to guide you?

Look forward to seeing your blood work. Make sure you get LCMS for TT, SHBG, and FT by equilibrium dialysis. At the least get LCMS for TT since you are using additional AAS.
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I am new in Canada. I did it know it is as easy as that to just tell the doc and he would order it and it comes free. I did not pay anything for the entire blood check. I had to visit a doctor for hpylori and that is when I discovered how the process is easy. I was yes, I was doing an AI then noticed acne flaring so added adex..

I will keep monitoring it twice a month to dial up or down the adex. What is the point of doing total test? Is it to make sure source is okay, or if the dose of test should be increased?

Yes thank you.. will do post them asap.
 
fqa2 said:
Is it to make sure source is okay, or if the dose of test should be increased?
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Poor man's source check and give you data to indicate test dose should be decreased.

Throw in the safety panel as well...

CMP, CBC, lipids, etc.

You gotta spend more time researching this stuff before starting out with 800 mg/week of AAS IMO.
 
readalot said:
Poor man's source check and give you data to indicate test dose should be decreased.

Throw in the safety panel as well...

CMP, CBC, lipids, etc.

You gotta spend more time researching this stuff before starting out with 800 mg/week of AAS IMO.
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Thanks! CBC, CMP and Kidney looks okay. Echo and ECG came out okay. Will check lipids as well for sure. I know, I should've but yeah.. just been through lots of things since 2022 after father's death and I literally could not find time to do anything because I work, do physical therapy every day, gym, cook, study for master's and volunteer and do a pharmacy license credential evaluation in Canada, but I will try to invest more time into that. Thanks for the input!
 
readalot said:
Poor man's source check
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Tool to Assess your TT dose response --Percentile Curves

Continuing the dose response thread over here. This would be a great place to crowdsource data. https://forums.t-nation.com/t/tool-to-assess-your-tt-dose-response-percentile-curves/277628 https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/readalot-aka-tareload-introduction.134419973/post-3171563 I...
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fqa2 said:
after father's death
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My condolences.

Take care and best wishes.
 
fqa2 said:
but I was thinking about tren instead of mast, what do you think?
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I don't have any experience with tren. I think the mast could help to get rid of your love handles / make you look less skinny fat.

I had your bodytype at one point and what i did was cutting to around 65 kg (without steroids) and then bulking up to 90 kg.
 
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