ItsDaBoii
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How was it so high? He wasnt in kidney failure back in 2019 right?
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3Th3osis3
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Peptide - > Stage 5 Kidney failure - > Refusing dialysis & Continue training heavy - > Potasium levels increasing progressively and spiking due to heavy training - > Death
That's all.
That's all.
Pineapples4Puss
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Seeing clips like this just makes me feel less bad and lean towards more thinking what the fuck did you expect to happen.Bostin Loyd on his Blood Pressure:
Says according to his bp he should be dead by now and goes on to say bp meds don't agree with him so he won't take them.
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Kept watching it. Found this bit interesting too. He called it...
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what a selfish fuckKept watching it. Found this bit interesting too. He called it...
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his blood pressure caused the kidney failure. or maybe it wasnt official kidney failure because he wouldnt get it diagnosed it
I don't know why anyone automatically believed it was the peptides that cause his kidney failure. Uncontrolled severe hypertension, that predated this particular peptide use, has a way of messing with the kidneys.
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ItsDaBoii
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But im just wondering how you get it even that high? I thought he stopped using the extrem amounts of peds in 2019 already?
Well, I saw his video with Palumbo about that and he was saying that this compound, which injected into fat cells, kills fat cells / all cells and he was injecting it in the lower back too close to the kidneys,
Unless he accidentally injected directly into the kidneys across the organ membrane, or like dmso it was really good at diffusing across membranes, that bullshit.
Otherwise you inject it into the tissues, it reaches venous circulation, the heart/lungs, arteries, tissues, then the kidneys...
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Rido
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What? you are saying that it isnt a localized medication?(sarcasm)
I remember being 19 and thinking Palumbo was smart.
I would liken it to insulin, which is also a peptide. You inject it into the subcutaneous fat and it might have some localised effect on the fat tissue but otherwise it gets taken up by systemic circulation. It doesn't then spread to the nearby organs. Adipotide may very very have harmed his kidneys, but not how he thought it did.
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Ye
I understand. Just being sarcastic. Epogen, neupogen, insulin, leupron, relastor, test c, are all systemic medications that are subq
Numerous variables could have contributed to his kidney failure. But really, Loyd trying to blaming a peptide, possibly citing research that showed MILD and reversible renal injury in MONKEYS, as THE cause of his kidney failure ignores the elephant in the room.
That is, the side effects and sequelae of uncontrolled and untreated severe hypertension, including kidney damage/failure, are well-known and well-established in HUMANS.
Why would he ignore this as the most likely cause?
The self-serving explanation would be that it is much more "cool" and "brave", especially among his fans, to take it upon himself to be a guinea pig and experiment with an unknown drug to see what promise it held for in the bodybuilding arsenal of drugs.
That he had uncontrolled severely-elevated high blood pressure but dismissively and actively refused to avail himself of medically-established and effective treatments for it is not nearly as cool.
Harm reduction for bodybuilding doesn't necessarily try to discourage or stop people from using drugs. The primary goal is to make drug use as safe as possible.
It's as if Loyd did the opposite. Not only did he use numerous bodybuilding drugs, it sometimes seemed as if he were trying to use them in the riskiest manner as possible with reckless disregard for side effect management.
Blood pressure that high over 180 is called a "hypertensive crisis" and yeah it'll commonly cause a stroke or aortic rupture, especially if exacerbated by a heavy weight training workout. It's an acute situation, usually from a drug overdose or acute kidney failure.
And his potassium level is what's called a "critical value" and the lab has to call the doctor about it (in this case there was no doctor so they called him) and document that they did so, because it can cause death. This is again usually caused by an adverse drug reaction or acute kidney failure. At the hospital they would've used insulin to push the potassium back into the cells.
I think for him to admit that what he was doing was killing him would mean that he would have to stop. Just getting on bp meds wouldn't be enough. He'd have to tone down his usage.
I also watched his original YouTube/Facebook video, the 1 year transformation, and it was quite impressive. He did about 10 years of pro bodybuilding in 1 year at a very young age. He was on about 3.5 grams of gear, injected about 40 vials of synthol, and gh/slin/clen/t3/ghrp-6, etc.
And it seemed to me that the only reason he did the video was to show off his PED knowledge. He very intelligently described what each compound was, why he took it, and what it did to him with very little errors. If I had a drink of beer every time he said something like "I know what I'm doing" I'd very quickly get drunk. And yet he was only 21.
It became very clear this is what he was addicted to, made him feel good, and enjoyed most in life and he was not going to stop. So he rationalized it would catch up with him later rather than sooner. And even when he lost his kidneys it must've been some fluke thing he did, not his overall lifestyle.
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ItsDaBoii
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He ever did a video on the cycle he used for the 1 year transformation?
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The official autopsy hasn't came out, so Palumbo isn't quite right. Even Bostins wife, who is Dave's daughter is pissed. She even said they are waiting on the final results. Dave is a complete scumbag, liar and will do and say anything for attention.
@DirtyCurt425 actually Bostin's wife and Dave are not related, though it's a hell of a coincidence they share the same last name
When a family is left with a son or daughter that died at a young age and under suspicious circumstances, for some strange reason there's shame involved like they have to try to find something legitimate so they can keep up appearances with a public that are mostly assholes who are just looking to for a little entertainment.
Bostin died from a combination of stupid seeking fame. That's not a good combination.
If I was the parent of Bostin I wouldn't have called Dave and explained what happened. I would have told everyone to piss off and go find something else to be concerned with.
Bostin died from a combination of stupid seeking fame. That's not a good combination.
If I was the parent of Bostin I wouldn't have called Dave and explained what happened. I would have told everyone to piss off and go find something else to be concerned with.
Rido
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They probably didnt want his memory tainted.
people do stupid stuff when a loved one does. I remember judging people for it until my father died. Then I found myself doing stupid things. The desperation to remember the loved one and find a normal is intense.
Even if it was that person's own fault.
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