Bromocriptine (parlodel) 10mg, prolactin issue

[luissp]

Hi

Got bloods today and prl came out @25 , which is not surprising as erections haven t been great at all recently without ED
Out of caber, picked up Bromo I received a while ago but never used, and started checking the dosage. Capsules are dosed at 10mg, which appears to be a lot for a single dose, it s possible to empty and split them although it sounds like a headache.
Didn t get E2 nunbers in the test, but numbers should be high. I ve been on 25 mg Asin recently every 6 to 7 days, might double the dose.
Note I m only on 200mg test, 200mg Masteron E a week plus Gh and T4 long tern and it s not the first time I get E2 and prl issues.
Any advice ?
Thanks in advance for all feedback

 

[luissp]

Btw a bit afraid of the side effects, so really don t want to overdose it, I feel good with caber but tried prami a couple of years ago and from memory it got me quite nauseous , didn t like it one bit.

 

[Gixjon22]

Maybe stick to trt. Youre barely over trt w a baby dose of mast, which should help w estrogen management yet…. Gh…t4…why?
Pin 90mg test mon morning and friday nights. Give it a few weeks. Redo bloods. Might help narrow something down since your fucking with multiple things. My dumb ass two cents.

 

[luissp]

You think... cutting GH, T4 an masteron would lower E2 and Prl ?!?

Thanks for chiming in, but besides the point imo.
I have E2 issues on 200mg test a week, it seems adding masteron, and before that Proviron didn´t help. But cutting them won´t help either

Intending to stick to masteron btw, been on it for at least 1 year and it doesn´t seem to add issues so far on bloods (planning to see the cardiologist soon, see how it goes heartwise). Trying to keep about the same weight (235lbs) with enough energy and as much strength as possible to keep up with much younger folks while training fighting sports

 

[grey]

Note I m only on 200mg test, 200mg Masteron E a week plus Gh and T4 long tern

You think... cutting GH, T4 an masteron would lower E2 and Prl ?!?

Thanks for chiming in, but besides the point imo.
I have E2 issues on 200mg test a week, it seems adding masteron, and before that Proviron didn´t help. But cutting them won´t help either

Intending to stick to masteron btw, been on it for at least 1 year and it doesn´t seem to add issues so far on bloods

You are only using Test, Mast, GH, and T4 but outright refuse to believe that the Mast, the GH, or the T4 could cause the problems in your bloodwork?

Your prolactin is much higher than it should be on these low doses.

Stop everything but the fucking Test and re-do your bloodwork.


Best of luck if you won't take this most basic fucking action.


Throwing more drugs at this isn't the answer.

 

[luissp]

Loud mouths out of the woods today... I had similar issues on test only, and before that when trying HcG and Clomid versions of TRT. Plus GH, Masteron and T4 are not known (from my reading at least, feel free to post relevant links rather than shouting in this thread)) to increase E2 nor prl . So, because u use thick letters and underline your sentence while answering absolutely nothing about Bromo... I´ll listen to ya

 

[grey]

I had the same problem on test only

Then you need to get medical help you fucking idiot.

 

[luissp]

Then you need to get medical help you fucking idiot.

Oki oki you mean keyboard warrior.

 

[grey]

Oki oki keyboard warrior.

Good luck with getting your advice with a recurring (and potentially very serious) medical problem from our board of internet folks while refusing to actually get treated or diagnosed by a medical professional.

Other readers: This is a classic case of how to take steroids like a fucking moron. Don't be the OP.

 

[luissp]

Good luck with getting your advice with a recurring (and potentially very serious) medical problem from our board of internet folks while refusing to actually get treated or diagnosed by a medical professional.

Other readers: This is a classic case of how to take steroids like a fucking moron. Don't be the OP.

No board readers, be the loud lady above, underline, shout, insult, maybe use all caps, don´t bring up any scientific link that suggest substances like masteron renown for not negatively affecting E2 or Prl actually might just do that.
Than go back to your bathroom and lick the banana you just got off your own ass. You might get to Grey status by then.

 

[Type-IIx]

Peter Bond's Book on Steroids explains that estrogens act as substrates for increasing serum prolactin, and it has been observed from testosterone alone. It's the likely culprit. In any event, given the chemistry, it's probable that an AI would solve the problem (dealing with the next root cause, after the test).

 

[luissp]

Peter Bond's Book on Steroids explains that estrogens act as substrates for increasing serum prolactin, and it has been observed from testosterone alone. It's the likely culprit. In any event, given the chemistry, it's probable that an AI would solve the problem (dealing with the next root cause, after the test).

Thanks, either the doc or the lab forgot to add E2 on the long list of things to be tested on the prescription, but I suspect it s well over the range indeed. Saw an urologist a while ago for this matter, who said the same ( an AI should sokve the issue), but he referred me to the endocrino here for prescription. And I ve seen a couple of them already, their position is : first u need to get to 250mg test every 2 weeks, the standard dose for TRT here. Not very helpful as I don t want to go this dose anyway.
Reading abt Bromo it doesn t look better than prami and 10mg appears a huge dose, I ll probably increase Aromasin and see how it goes. Fwiw I've finished the pharma one received in Europe and not 100% sure about the quality of what I have ( ordered from online pharmas when I was living in China abt 3 years ago, usually legit and widely used there but can t be sure).
I liked caber though, might order again, along more AI.
T4 I get from local drugstore and GH is meditrope, although I ve used a few brands

 

[PeterBond]

Peter Bond's Book on Steroids explains that estrogens act as substrates for increasing serum prolactin, and it has been observed from testosterone alone. It's the likely culprit. In any event, given the chemistry, it's probable that an AI would solve the problem (dealing with the next root cause, after the test).

It doesn't function as a substrate, as the two molecules are vastly different. But estrogens do increase the expression of prolactin (whereas androgens decrease it). There are some cases in which TRT can cause an increase in prolactin as a result of a corresponding increase in estrogen.

@luissp what unit is your prolactin value in, ng/mL? And has that value been measured while you were taking bromocriptine/cabergoline?

 

[Forthewin1123]

Maybe test isn't for you.. 200mg and all these issues is no Bueno.. 25mg aromasin too.. that's too much for a trt/cruise dose.. Mayne try deca instead of test.. or try pinning more often.. there is not exactly answer here.. kinda gotta start from scratch and figure out what works and doesn't. 1 change at atime

 

[Gixjon22]

LOUD NOISES!!!!!

 

[luissp]

It doesn't function as a substrate, as the two molecules are vastly different. But estrogens do increase the expression of prolactin (whereas androgens decrease it). There are some cases in which TRT can cause an increase in prolactin as a result of a corresponding increase in estrogen.

@luissp what unit is your prolactin value in, ng/mL? And has that value been measured while you were taking bromocriptine/cabergoline?

Thanks for your input, prl comes in (micro)g/L, so i think equivalent to ng/mL, range is from 3 to 14.7
Never used Bromo but got prl down to 6.3 on caber, from memory 2*0.25mg per week, which I found pretty good. Most likely was using some Adex or Asin at the same time.
Do you know why 10mg pills are in the underground market as this seems way above the recommended daily dosage ?

Maybe test isn't for you.. 200mg and all these issues is no Bueno.. 25mg aromasin too.. that's too much for a trt/cruise dose.. Mayne try deca instead of test.. or try pinning more often.. there is not exactly answer here.. kinda gotta start from scratch and figure out what works and doesn't. 1 change at atime

Yes, looks like a little dose to be struggling with E2 and Prl like this, seems a bunch of people suffer from high E2 on a similar dose though.
Thanks for the tip on pinning more often, noticed lots of people prefer that way. i didn´t because of laziness/not keen on pinning intramuscular often but will give it a try, doubt the result will be dramatic, but if it helps some, it will be most welcome.
Not sure why Deca, a bit of a no no afaik in sports requiring cardio plus it doesn´t replace test and is more damaging. Have had 2 vials from Pcom in the cupboard for a couple of years and actually thinking of giving them soon to whoever might like it at the gym.
Maybe there´s a solution no more harmful in term of health with similar benefits than what I´m on like Lower dose of Test, a bit more masteron and/or another low dose of non aromatizing product, curious to read relevant ideas.

 

[Type-IIx]

It doesn't function as a substrate, as the two molecules are vastly different. But estrogens do increase the expression of prolactin (whereas androgens decrease it). There are some cases in which TRT can cause an increase in prolactin as a result of a corresponding increase in estrogen.

@luissp what unit is your prolactin value in, ng/mL? And has that value been measured while you were taking bromocriptine/cabergoline?

Ah, sorry, I should have actually quoted your passage and avoided the mistake. I guess I thought prolactin could be in the same biosynthetic pathway as estrogens (like progesterone with T).

 

[Forthewin1123]

Thanks for your input, prl comes in (micro)g/L, so i think equivalent to ng/mL, range is from 3 to 14.7
Never used Bromo but got prl down to 6.3 on caber, from memory 2*0.25mg per week, which I found pretty good. Most likely was using some Adex or Asin at the same time.
Do you know why 10mg pills are in the underground market as this seems way above the recommended daily dosage ?

Yes, looks like a little dose to be struggling with E2 and Prl like this, seems a bunch of people suffer from high E2 on a similar dose though.
Thanks for the tip on pinning more often, noticed lots of people prefer that way. i didn´t because of laziness/not keen on pinning intramuscular often but will give it a try, doubt the result will be dramatic, but if it helps some, it will be most welcome.
Not sure why Deca, a bit of a no no afaik in sports requiring cardio plus it doesn´t replace test and is more damaging. Have had 2 vials from Pcom in the cupboard for a couple of years and actually thinking of giving them soon to whoever might like it at the gym.
Maybe there´s a solution no more harmful in term of health with similar benefits than what I´m on like Lower dose of Test, a bit more masteron and/or another low dose of non aromatizing product, curious to read relevant ideas.

Deca can be ran as a test replacement.. it's not ideal but helps with the few people that can't tolerate test well at all .. all peds aren't best for sports..especially steroids.. atleast during sports season..

 

[luissp]

Deca can be ran as a test replacement.. it's not ideal but helps with the few people that can't tolerate test well at all .. all peds aren't best for sports..especially steroids.. atleast during sports season..

Thanks again, sure thinking more and more about going with a lower test dose, and starting a new related thread on the topic. Adding dry compounds would seem more intuitive but I´ll read more about low dose long term deca use (I remember reading it caused heart issue to some who added Deca to their TRT in the long term, as well as deca doing much more cardiovascular damage than test, but can´t remember much about using deca as a main compound for cruise/TRT, will check)

 

[luissp]

Never used Bromo but got prl down to 6.3 on caber, from memory 2*0.25mg per week, which I found pretty good. Most likely was using some Adex or Asin at the same time.

Got it wrong, caber was from Pcom, it should be 0.5mg twice a week.
Just ordered some caber and adex btw, but looking into options to lower Test dose