Admin, is there any chance that The Dark will return now that Swale has left?
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It never should have gone that far.
It takes two to argue. One could see that the thread was going in the wrong direction.
Everyone likes to be right but you lost two people and this never would have happened if you just closed the thread.
Hey far be it from me to suggest anything that could improve the image and maintain knowledge on the board.
It takes two.
You need as many Dr's on this board you can get your hands on.
Id love to have one on my board.
We had one but he was alot like Swale.
You had to rub with the grain but he too left due to very similar circomstances.
He fired up his own board and it just wont grow.
Sure I know why, it takes personality.
You have that Admin, but you need meat too, someone that people can trust.
You need the knowledge pool as deep as you can dig it, losing two dudes like that are hard to find yet alone just one.
Sure it is hard being a mod once and a while, sometimes putting enough passion in a post might seem right at the time but can overwhelm others, after all it is just Information and some Socialization depending on who visits.
No flames here just observations, I like the board, I just liked a bit more before if you know what I mean.
And before anyone starts I am not anti-steroid, I have done many cycles.
You guys are alright but I just wanted to get this off my chest.
It takes two to argue. One could see that the thread was going in the wrong direction.
Everyone likes to be right but you lost two people and this never would have happened if you just closed the thread.
Hey far be it from me to suggest anything that could improve the image and maintain knowledge on the board.
It takes two.
You need as many Dr's on this board you can get your hands on.
Id love to have one on my board.
We had one but he was alot like Swale.
You had to rub with the grain but he too left due to very similar circomstances.
He fired up his own board and it just wont grow.
Sure I know why, it takes personality.
You have that Admin, but you need meat too, someone that people can trust.
You need the knowledge pool as deep as you can dig it, losing two dudes like that are hard to find yet alone just one.
Sure it is hard being a mod once and a while, sometimes putting enough passion in a post might seem right at the time but can overwhelm others, after all it is just Information and some Socialization depending on who visits.
No flames here just observations, I like the board, I just liked a bit more before if you know what I mean.
And before anyone starts I am not anti-steroid, I have done many cycles.
You guys are alright but I just wanted to get this off my chest.
hackskii said:
No, not at all. I specifically asked you for your suggestions. Thank you.
hackskii said:
This is incredibly insightful although I suspect we still see this situation a little differently.
hackskii said:
Completely agreed. The problem is that I'm not satisfied with only one, especially if that one is determined to keep the pool shallow.
And I want a deep pool to swim in just like you!
Bob Smith said:
The Dark has been a "friend of MESO" for over 10 years and even prior to the launch of the mesomorphosis.com website.
He rarely spends time in the forums. The time constraints of academia and research are considerable. But I know that The Dark will continue to write for MESO-Rx on a limited basis as he has done throughout the years.
Maybe he'll surprise us some day in the future and drop by the forum again...
Hopefully, by then, we'll all learn from the present experience and have a deeper "knowledge pool" that can accomodate increasingly intelligent discourse..
GirlyMan
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Dude left because hens were cackling. And Dr Crisler might've been one of them. So what. Water under the bridge. Hens cackling are enough to drive anybody away.
Bigkarch
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this is a 4 yr old post
Jeton
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HOLY SHIT this was one epic thread! I'm sorry to see how this all spun out of control, but this was one great read! i didn't think threads here got this interesting!
opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:
I think I mentioned something about a "smell" the other day. After all, I am psychicly tuned with the Universe
. Even being a TRT prescribed individual, I am also one who studies the science of steroids, as the whole spectrum of AAS applies to human biology in ways the further medical understanding as well. Nandrolone = many medical uses. Even more aggressive androgen based agents have medical foundation. It would also be a shame to see consitiution freedom infringed upon based on internet hubbub, and I hope that things dont even come to that. BUT WITH THAT SAID, there has been a lot of strange activity lately. I HAVE ALSO SEEN SOME REALLY LOW PRICES ON WEB SITES THAT HAVE COME UP LATELY AND HAVE BEEN PASSED ON TO FOLKS AS LEGIT. SOME MAY EVEN GET THEIR PRODUCTS AT THIS STRANGE LOW PRICE!?!?!?!!! While I dont think the act of receiving a scrupulous package in one's mailbox is evidence to convict a person of a crime, to order from L.E. just may be. I dont know. Still, how do you arrest someone short of dealing juice to them in a back alley? If you kicked in everyones door based on a suspicion of an end user based controlled substance possessed, you may as well go up and down the streets of mainstream America. I am sure drugs like marijuana are 10,000 fold the steroid activity.
Is the question or implication, "Can one get in trouble for talking on a forum?" I wonder. Many times I talk about things based on reasearch and reported experience in a way that may sound like I am a heavy user of every drug on the planet. That does not mean I have taken them, and far from possess them. But how anonymous is anonymous? The truth is that no one here is anonymous. One big roundup and computer snatching session of of even 100 key internet personalities, combined with the confiscation of just one controlled substance, AND ITS YOUR ASS....... The question is, would end users ever be aggressively sought? What is the trigger to allow the warrant? Internet talk? Unlicensed medical advice perhaps? From a doc or layman? Does an interstate issue with the nature of the forum open a door? A western Union ticket? A signed US postal receipt? An order from a US legit and confiscated, or LE operated salepoint? A credit card receipt? Stating publicly here, or to another member via PM, that you recieved some juice in conjuction with an order, signature, or receipt? Everyone here makes their own puzzle, the question is how many pieces do they want.?? The arrest of just 100 personalities around the net would SILENCE this internet fueled steroid revolution. And REALLY, who the fuck is going to give a shit.?? Do you believe some army of angry steroid advocates is going to come down to the jailhouse and petition for your release? More likely you will be burned at the stake on mainstreet by the ignporant witch hunters in YOUR TOWN.
There has been continued odd activity over the past year. People come on a portray all kinds of stunts thus legitimizing them and giving credibility. I can think of a new character who came on and did NOTHING but brag about his next purchase and what he currently possessed. This kind of exposure for so long will make others feel its ok. ITS NOT. You may be documenting your own case for court.
While Obama stated early on he was not interested in pursuing this. Who knows if even legit? It is known that Biden HATES steroid users. He has to be busy doing something!! This is one of those times I wish I had something better to do...
This site in particular is one of the most responsible and informative on the net. The mens health and TRT section is an informative source of information the has benefited me greatly. However, AAS is still the discussion of an illegal activity. While history has an incredible predisposition for redundancy, it is equally born every day. The internet is only a baby and there is much case law to be set. As technology increases, your anomynity decreases. This WILL NOT be "free' forever. Consider the telephone. I can remember when I was young and you could pick up the phone and call someone to call someone their refrigerator was "running", or harass a person to death for a multitude of twisted reasons. You can't do that anymore for sure. In fact, you can even make a call on a cell phone without having your position triangulated instantly!!! Considering the fact that not only hace prank calls become history, and you cant even dial a wrong number by accident without being prepared to cordially apologize, where do you think the internet is going? The false sense of anomynity is fading. I wonder how far it has gone? .Has discussion gone too far? Is this now a community so falsly confident in the freedom to speak anonymously on internet forums, that it has crossed some line?
No one is safe. The moral dilimna of personal freedom as it relates to productive and primarily law abiding citizens with regard to internet activity, will be challenged one day soon. Its funny how while are freedom promotes one of the most advanced societies in history, and yet this advancement seems to narrow our further narrow these freedoms. As with all things, a balance will be found..
. Even being a TRT prescribed individual, I am also one who studies the science of steroids, as the whole spectrum of AAS applies to human biology in ways the further medical understanding as well. Nandrolone = many medical uses. Even more aggressive androgen based agents have medical foundation. It would also be a shame to see consitiution freedom infringed upon based on internet hubbub, and I hope that things dont even come to that. BUT WITH THAT SAID, there has been a lot of strange activity lately. I HAVE ALSO SEEN SOME REALLY LOW PRICES ON WEB SITES THAT HAVE COME UP LATELY AND HAVE BEEN PASSED ON TO FOLKS AS LEGIT. SOME MAY EVEN GET THEIR PRODUCTS AT THIS STRANGE LOW PRICE!?!?!?!!! While I dont think the act of receiving a scrupulous package in one's mailbox is evidence to convict a person of a crime, to order from L.E. just may be. I dont know. Still, how do you arrest someone short of dealing juice to them in a back alley? If you kicked in everyones door based on a suspicion of an end user based controlled substance possessed, you may as well go up and down the streets of mainstream America. I am sure drugs like marijuana are 10,000 fold the steroid activity.Is the question or implication, "Can one get in trouble for talking on a forum?" I wonder. Many times I talk about things based on reasearch and reported experience in a way that may sound like I am a heavy user of every drug on the planet. That does not mean I have taken them, and far from possess them. But how anonymous is anonymous? The truth is that no one here is anonymous. One big roundup and computer snatching session of of even 100 key internet personalities, combined with the confiscation of just one controlled substance, AND ITS YOUR ASS....... The question is, would end users ever be aggressively sought? What is the trigger to allow the warrant? Internet talk? Unlicensed medical advice perhaps? From a doc or layman? Does an interstate issue with the nature of the forum open a door? A western Union ticket? A signed US postal receipt? An order from a US legit and confiscated, or LE operated salepoint? A credit card receipt? Stating publicly here, or to another member via PM, that you recieved some juice in conjuction with an order, signature, or receipt? Everyone here makes their own puzzle, the question is how many pieces do they want.?? The arrest of just 100 personalities around the net would SILENCE this internet fueled steroid revolution. And REALLY, who the fuck is going to give a shit.?? Do you believe some army of angry steroid advocates is going to come down to the jailhouse and petition for your release? More likely you will be burned at the stake on mainstreet by the ignporant witch hunters in YOUR TOWN.
There has been continued odd activity over the past year. People come on a portray all kinds of stunts thus legitimizing them and giving credibility. I can think of a new character who came on and did NOTHING but brag about his next purchase and what he currently possessed. This kind of exposure for so long will make others feel its ok. ITS NOT. You may be documenting your own case for court.
While Obama stated early on he was not interested in pursuing this. Who knows if even legit? It is known that Biden HATES steroid users. He has to be busy doing something!! This is one of those times I wish I had something better to do...
This site in particular is one of the most responsible and informative on the net. The mens health and TRT section is an informative source of information the has benefited me greatly. However, AAS is still the discussion of an illegal activity. While history has an incredible predisposition for redundancy, it is equally born every day. The internet is only a baby and there is much case law to be set. As technology increases, your anomynity decreases. This WILL NOT be "free' forever. Consider the telephone. I can remember when I was young and you could pick up the phone and call someone to call someone their refrigerator was "running", or harass a person to death for a multitude of twisted reasons. You can't do that anymore for sure. In fact, you can even make a call on a cell phone without having your position triangulated instantly!!! Considering the fact that not only hace prank calls become history, and you cant even dial a wrong number by accident without being prepared to cordially apologize, where do you think the internet is going? The false sense of anomynity is fading. I wonder how far it has gone? .Has discussion gone too far? Is this now a community so falsly confident in the freedom to speak anonymously on internet forums, that it has crossed some line?
No one is safe. The moral dilimna of personal freedom as it relates to productive and primarily law abiding citizens with regard to internet activity, will be challenged one day soon. Its funny how while are freedom promotes one of the most advanced societies in history, and yet this advancement seems to narrow our further narrow these freedoms. As with all things, a balance will be found..
Wow, I actually decided to read as I thought this was new. opcorn:Then realized 9 pages. Got to the end and ancient news!!!!!!!!!!![)]
I do find it amusing to see that it was Deacon himself that started the whole thing about who's next on the arresting food chain in this thread back then as he was the first to dismiss my thread the other day to "Paranoiah"[)] Guess that just goes to show that with time, I should grown less paranoid.......
Man was there some serious drama on this one. In 3-4 years, I had always wondered why this notorious Swale was never posting, but he had data in the sticky section... I dont gues The Dark ever made it back either.
But I read it all so I am going to stir the pot. Just for my sake at least as indemnification for time served. DOCTORS ARE ASSHOLES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Swale clearly was taking the issue to heart, and guess why, he knows its true.
1) Docs dont give a shit about anything but SAFE PROTOCOL.
2) They care more about their plan with regard to malpractice insurance, than the patient.
3) Most do treat illness and not patient, this serves some ways and hurts sometimes too.
4) More and more today, you can not even get a doc to act human. I saw a dermatologist the other day and could not even get him to crack a smile. They ALWAYS figure the mouthier the patient, the more potential for trouble, OR worse - WORK, therefore many will not entertain ANY Dialogue. God forbit they should actually have to do their job.
5) They so busy flirting with pharmaceutical REPs that they are willing to hand out new unchallenged drugs, that MAY NOT EVEN APPLY, with the slightest of ease. Boy but those lunchtime lays are GREAT!!
6) And I'll say it. Doctors are THE MOST PROMISCUOUS bastards on the PLANET.!!!! What kind are ethics does that infer.
7) They are human. They get tired. They would probably go insane if they actually cared for al their patients (as Swale clearly had). I mean, who wants to take work home with them. And who eventually does not want to be there and finds ways to cope.
8) And I'll say this one really loud. How is a doctor even supposed to understand what is going on in my life when many of them today are FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY, and do not have a clear understanding of my life. That was a TINY though as many phsicians of from cultures other than US, grew up here and have enough under the belt to be past that. BUT HOW IN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH SOMEONE THIS INTROVERTED!!????? AS MOST YOUNG ONES TODAY ARE......
9) They stick together like a bunch of FILTHY DOGS and will not testify against each other in legal issues concerning life injuring mistakes or incompetence. How the hell is the problem going to be fixed if no one proves wrong??
10) Many will lie to your face, or worse, continue an improper protocol if found out or justly questioned.
11) They have " GOD-LIKE" attitudes that are FAR FROM MERITED. A FUCKING Street Cop diserves ten times the gratitude considering pay vs. duty. Truely little man complexes serviced with degrees. A MONKEY CAN BE TRAINED TO HOLD A BOOK!!!.. Just because an individual is blessed with a memory does not make him a good physician. Think about it. THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE HIGHEST PAYING FIELD WHERE YOU CAN BE A FUCKING MORAN IF YOU HAVE A MEMORY. Where do they ever prove any skill rate at anything, for the most part. Passing a test and giving someone the finger hardly qualifies for Demigod status.
12) Thats a start. I dont care what Swale says. I have met about 30 docs in my time. 2 are astute in every way, 20 of them you could just roll the dice and hope their wife fucked them that morning, 5, I would not wish on my enemies, and 3 of that I would like to shit down their throats!!!!
I really got worked up there. For those of you that think I am too harse, I have some recomendations.... Pass that on to swale. But clearly based on his lack of acknowledgement of layanization of terms, he would be too high up the chain to care. Fuck him...............!
Who the hell is GIRLYMAN and who was he referring to as hens? Funny that it should be brought back up....
opcorn:Then realized 9 pages. Got to the end and ancient news!!!!!!!!!!![)]I do find it amusing to see that it was Deacon himself that started the whole thing about who's next on the arresting food chain in this thread back then as he was the first to dismiss my thread the other day to "Paranoiah"[
)] Guess that just goes to show that with time, I should grown less paranoid.......Man was there some serious drama on this one. In 3-4 years, I had always wondered why this notorious Swale was never posting, but he had data in the sticky section... I dont gues The Dark ever made it back either.
But I read it all so I am going to stir the pot. Just for my sake at least as indemnification for time served. DOCTORS ARE ASSHOLES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Swale clearly was taking the issue to heart, and guess why, he knows its true.
1) Docs dont give a shit about anything but SAFE PROTOCOL.
2) They care more about their plan with regard to malpractice insurance, than the patient.
3) Most do treat illness and not patient, this serves some ways and hurts sometimes too.
4) More and more today, you can not even get a doc to act human. I saw a dermatologist the other day and could not even get him to crack a smile. They ALWAYS figure the mouthier the patient, the more potential for trouble, OR worse - WORK, therefore many will not entertain ANY Dialogue. God forbit they should actually have to do their job.
5) They so busy flirting with pharmaceutical REPs that they are willing to hand out new unchallenged drugs, that MAY NOT EVEN APPLY, with the slightest of ease. Boy but those lunchtime lays are GREAT!!
6) And I'll say it. Doctors are THE MOST PROMISCUOUS bastards on the PLANET.!!!! What kind are ethics does that infer.
7) They are human. They get tired. They would probably go insane if they actually cared for al their patients (as Swale clearly had). I mean, who wants to take work home with them. And who eventually does not want to be there and finds ways to cope.
8) And I'll say this one really loud. How is a doctor even supposed to understand what is going on in my life when many of them today are FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY, and do not have a clear understanding of my life. That was a TINY though as many phsicians of from cultures other than US, grew up here and have enough under the belt to be past that. BUT HOW IN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH SOMEONE THIS INTROVERTED!!????? AS MOST YOUNG ONES TODAY ARE......
9) They stick together like a bunch of FILTHY DOGS and will not testify against each other in legal issues concerning life injuring mistakes or incompetence. How the hell is the problem going to be fixed if no one proves wrong??
10) Many will lie to your face, or worse, continue an improper protocol if found out or justly questioned.
11) They have " GOD-LIKE" attitudes that are FAR FROM MERITED. A FUCKING Street Cop diserves ten times the gratitude considering pay vs. duty. Truely little man complexes serviced with degrees. A MONKEY CAN BE TRAINED TO HOLD A BOOK!!!.. Just because an individual is blessed with a memory does not make him a good physician. Think about it. THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE HIGHEST PAYING FIELD WHERE YOU CAN BE A FUCKING MORAN IF YOU HAVE A MEMORY. Where do they ever prove any skill rate at anything, for the most part. Passing a test and giving someone the finger hardly qualifies for Demigod status.
12) Thats a start. I dont care what Swale says. I have met about 30 docs in my time. 2 are astute in every way, 20 of them you could just roll the dice and hope their wife fucked them that morning, 5, I would not wish on my enemies, and 3 of that I would like to shit down their throats!!!!
I really got worked up there. For those of you that think I am too harse, I have some recomendations.... Pass that on to swale. But clearly based on his lack of acknowledgement of layanization of terms, he would be too high up the chain to care. Fuck him...............!
Who the hell is GIRLYMAN and who was he referring to as hens? Funny that it should be brought back up....
HOLY SHIT this was one epic thread! I'm sorry to see how this all spun out of control, but this was one great read! i didn't think threads here got this interesting!
Indeed. His tradition of being a tool has been carried on and passed down through the company he is now with. It's so amusing when his formulator Daniel Pierce goes around attacking others calling them "felons" and such when he works with the same type of people and gets assistance formulating products from other convicts.
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