Can touching a barbell in the gym get you sick with the coronavirus?

That is just not the case at all. What is usually meant is that the vast majority of those who die infected with Covid have one or more "co-morbidities" that increase the chances of death. For example, the two biggest are obesity and diabetes. That does not mean it was a "lie," but just that certain persons are more likely to die due to health conditions that make the the virus deadlier for them.
That’s exactly it.

If someone with co-morbidities dies after being infected with COVID, it’s COVID that killed them. Yes, they had additional risk factors that increased their chances of dying, absolutely. But COVID is still the legitimate cause of death.

They otherwise would not have died, so it’s disingenuous to try to gloss over such deaths as “fake.” The fact that a disease kills fat, unhealthy and old people at a disproportionate rate should surprise exactly nobody.
 
That is just not the case at all. What is usually meant is that the vast majority of those who die infected with Covid have one or more "co-morbidities" that increase the chances of death. For example, the two biggest are obesity and diabetes. That does not mean it was a "lie," but just that certain persons are more likely to die due to health conditions that make the the virus deadlier for them.
Yea if you actually kooky at the numbers we lost 68 thousand more people in this country total in 2020 than 2019 when there was no Covid. But suicide and drug over dose doubled in 2020, get rid of that and when lost more people in 2019 when there was no Covid. In 2020 death by heart attack dropped by 87% death by strok dropped by 82% and there was literally no regular flu deaths. The media did a wonderful job at promoting their polical agenda. If you go to the UN website we lost over 20million people in third world countries to starvation because we shut down and didn’t get food out to the world. America is the worlds main food supplier with all the agricultural here. Yea fear and propaganda was the real enemy.
 
I haven't kept up with this thread, so I don't know if this has been covered.

Can touching a barbell in the gym get you sick with the coronavirus?​


The answer is no. We went through a year of washing our hands and sanitizing everything for no good reason. Almost everyone who caught covid got it through breathing the air in the same room as someone who was infected. Hardly any cases (if any) came from people touching a surface or from not washing their hands.
True, but it takes a long time to study and figure out stuff like that. I can't really blame them for not figuring it out right away.
 
Yea if you actually kooky at the numbers we lost 68 thousand more people in this country total in 2020 than 2019 when there was no Covid. But suicide and drug over dose doubled in 2020, get rid of that and when lost more people in 2019 when there was no Covid. In 2020 death by heart attack dropped by 87% death by strok dropped by 82% and there was literally no regular flu deaths. The media did a wonderful job at promoting their polical agenda. If you go to the UN website we lost over 20million people in third world countries to starvation because we shut down and didn’t get food out to the world. America is the worlds main food supplier with all the agricultural here. Yea fear and propaganda was the real enemy.
Richard322,

I have examined claims like what you wrote above in the past. I am not going to do so again here, right now. Instead, I would encourage you to be careful about the sources of your information and then research to the best of your ability the numbers in the claim you saw. For example, heart attack deaths are up for 2020 over 2019, not "dropped by 87%" - your numbers are just seriously flawed, and it is very easy to verify what I am telling you just by picking out this one condition to make your research a little easier. Cardiologists have been wringing their hands over excess heart attack deaths in 2020 due to persons being afraid to go to the hospital or doctor. This is not a secret.

Make sure you have up to date sources as well (the numbers lag by quite a ways, so getting numbers from December 2019 or January 2020 almost guarantees your numbers for the year 2020 are wrong).
 
True, but it takes a long time to study and figure out stuff like that. I can't really blame them for not figuring it out right away.

This is a good article about mistakes that were made early on. Some scientists knew the virus was airborne over a year ago. The WHO and the medical community in general insisted that the virus couldn't be airborne and that people were getting infected from touching surfaces or being coughed on directly. It came down to a misinterpretation of studies done on tuberculosis decades ago.

The scientific consensus isn't always right. It does get to the truth eventually once there's enough evidence supporting an idea.
 
I haven't kept up with this thread, so I don't know if this has been covered.

Can touching a barbell in the gym get you sick with the coronavirus?​


The answer is no. We went through a year of washing our hands and sanitizing everything for no good reason. Almost everyone who caught covid got it through breathing the air in the same room as someone who was infected. Hardly any cases (if any) came from people touching a surface or from not washing their hands.
Like other respiratory pathogens, excepting perhaps very high risk sections of hospitals such as ICUs or designated quarantine facilities the risk of fomite spread is extremely LOW, if it occurs at all.
 
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