Canada, Ontario lockdown extended-restrictions tight

Is "compromised immune system" the new "depression". A few years ago everyone said became "depressed" now everyone who fears a germ has a "compromised immune system."

"vaccine hesitancy" " compromised immune system" "socail distancing" the sheep doing a good job repeating their newspeak the goverment has taught them

You don't need a degree in virology to know covid is a joke just like you don't need to be a chemist to know that dbol wont kill you or make you grow a third arm. You don't need to study water to know its safe to drink.

Covid fear I a mental illness.
“Flatten the curve”, “masking”, “hand washing”
 
The thing is it's not just people with shitty immune systems who are at risk! Some people are just genetically predisposed so even if you're perfectly healthy if your genetics fit with covid there's a very good chance you'll end up dying from pneumonia! Covid and the variants fill your lungs with fluid and make the alveoli swell/rupture and when those two things happen at the same time YOU'RE FUCKED!

The Earth is not flat and some germs are EXTREMELY bad!
 
Tell that to people with compromised immune systems.

Im not worried about the flu itself, I'm worried about the potential for long term pulmonary scarring. That sounds like shit. Unless any of us have degrees in virology or work with infectious diseases. We are all just as stupid as the next person when we pretend to know a damn thing about this virus. Because for the most part it's just repeating the words of someone else that we agree with most.

I actually do infectious protection and control for a living.
I set up the first covid response control centre in Toronto at the start of the pandemic.

Yall guys who are screaming "Science deniers" are hilarious
You guys are stat deniers.
Ignoring all statistical data when it comes to this shit.
Ontario is the laughing stock of the world right now, Ford is prioritizing who goes to work and who doesnt, these half assed lockdowns are destroying 30% ISH of the populations lives, service workers are being crushed, suicide rates are through the roof.
The majority being those who make less than 30k per year.

To quote STATS from John's Hopkins virology institute

Covid: Approximately 143,052,070 cases have been confirmed worldwide. There have been 31,793,715 cases in the U.S. between January 2020 and April 21, 2021.*

Flu: The World Health Organization estimates that 1 billion people worldwide get the flu every year.

To put it simply, covid is not AS BAD as it seems.
Is it dangerous?
Yup
Does it exist?
Yup (Its silly to deny that)

Are these bullshit lockdowns helping?
Fuck no.

How you guys can defend these bullshit lockdowns is beyond me.
Herd mentality

Every....single....professional...agrees that the Ford government lockdowns are fuxking nonsense.
Locking down the provincial borders...???? why?
The majority of cases are NOT from provincial border crossing.... that's a fact.

All pros indicate qe need a SINGLE, REAL lockdown
Lock it ALL down.
Grocery stores only.
Emergency services are the only ones allowed outside for anything other than food.

The Ontario and Canadian medical proffesionals all agree that Ford us a fucking idiot a s these lockdowns are nonsense.
His own chief of medicine said "He doesnt listen to us, he tells us to shut up and read what he wrote"

So quit the "Science denying" nonsense.
Check the fucking stats.
Numbers dont lie.
 
I actually do infectious protection and control for a living.
I set up the first covid response control centre in Toronto at the start of the pandemic.

Yall guys who are screaming "Science deniers" are hilarious
You guys are stat deniers.
Ignoring all statistical data when it comes to this shit.
Ontario is the laughing stock of the world right now, Ford is prioritizing who goes to work and who doesnt, these half assed lockdowns are destroying 30% ISH of the populations lives, service workers are being crushed, suicide rates are through the roof.
The majority being those who make less than 30k per year.

To quote STATS from John's Hopkins virology institute

Covid: Approximately 143,052,070 cases have been confirmed worldwide. There have been 31,793,715 cases in the U.S. between January 2020 and April 21, 2021.*

Flu: The World Health Organization estimates that 1 billion people worldwide get the flu every year.

To put it simply, covid is not AS BAD as it seems.
Is it dangerous?
Yup
Does it exist?
Yup (Its silly to deny that)

Are these bullshit lockdowns helping?
Fuck no.

How you guys can defend these bullshit lockdowns is beyond me.
Herd mentality

Every....single....professional...agrees that the Ford government lockdowns are fuxking nonsense.
Locking down the provincial borders...???? why?
The majority of cases are NOT from provincial border crossing.... that's a fact.

All pros indicate qe need a SINGLE, REAL lockdown
Lock it ALL down.
Grocery stores only.
Emergency services are the only ones allowed outside for anything other than food.

The Ontario and Canadian medical proffesionals all agree that Ford us a fucking idiot a s these lockdowns are nonsense.
His own chief of medicine said "He doesnt listen to us, he tells us to shut up and read what he wrote"

So quit the "Science denying" nonsense.
Check the fucking stats.
Numbers dont lie.
No I agree. As I was saying. I don't think it's inherently as dangerous as it's made out to be, the thing I'm actually concerned about is as I said the reported scaring in the lungs. I already have more than enough difficulty getting full breathes of air.

I just can't stand the guys going around saying its fake when they don't even know what a virus actually is. I've been sitting back for the whole thing. To which I agree. 1 large lock down, get it done.

We now have district travel restrictions however all winter anywhere I was was absolutely flooded by albertan snowmobilers. They claim to care about bringing down numbers, right up until money is involved. The majority may not be from border crossings however revelstoke was having a very hard time controlling cases this winter. Along with just as difficult of a time contact tracing. Could it be coincidence that people come from several provinces over to enjoy their snow?

And I'm not arguing with you, I'm genuinely curious what you think about that as you appear to be quite aware. I personally just believe anyone who doesn't have a science background. Just needs to shut the fuck up about their beliefs on the subject. Politicians and myself included. Let's just get this fucking thing over with.
 

I get this sentiment, but it makes me laugh when people say “99.4% of people survive COVID. It’s not that dangerous.” then turn around and claim that a vaccine is dangerous because of a 0.0006% chance of serious side effects.

If you consider probability a reasonable metric to base decisions off of (you should) then be consistent. Probabilities don’t flip on their head based on how much you like something or not.
 
I get this sentiment, but it makes me laugh when people say “99.4% of people survive COVID. It’s not that dangerous.” then turn around and claim that a vaccine is dangerous because of a 0.0006% chance of serious side effects.

If you consider probability a reasonable metric to base decisions off of (you should) then be consistent. Probabilities don’t flip on their head based on how much you like something or not.

I suppose the middle ground days are gone lol

I believe Covid is real and dangerous (New tests from blood service Canada said that 1/5 batches tested, tested positive for Covid antibodies)
I'm fairly sure I got it before the vivid scare became a thing, wish I could test for antibodies.

However, even if I hadnt.
Not a fan of the vaccine
We dont know enough about the selectivity of the vaccine for "Turning off" certain DNA pieces.

Let me put it this way.

After the invention of Nolvadex, it took something like 10 years to create Raloxifene.
What they accomplished is making Ralox MORE selective of the estrogen receptors in the breast.
Excellent accomplishment.
But we are dealing with something far more complex than estrogen receptors and binding affinity of said estrogen receptors.

We have no clue as to the ling term effects and affinities of the current type of vaccines.

Also
As a COMPLETE disclaimer to ALL my opinions
AND a great reason to throw my opinion out of the window.
It's part of my job as an IPAC (infectious protection and control) guy to be in situations where immuno compromised people are everywhere (Hey look, a 4 year old girl with cancer and going through Chemo... 5 feet away... fuck...)
So I get tested a MINIMUM of twice a week as a prerequisite for doing what I do.

So if I DO get Covid (Again?) there is very little lead time to me isolating and my elder loved ones are not at risk.

So, yeah..... just ignore me lol
 
Undoubtedly
I will be forced to get the vaccine eventually.
And I will
And I wont be terribly concerned about it, since I'm a healthy dude.

But I wont be getting it voluntarily, due to me unique situation
 
Don’t bend over because of others

Tbh
I'm a whore and I love my job and the stress that goes with it.
I'm not about to throw away a decade of reputation building and every hospital in southern Ontario as clients if they decide I need it to bid on their tenders.

May as well throw away all my retirement goals at that point.
And hey, if it kills me... well, I'd be even more fucked trying to restart in a new sector and having to kill myself to get to the top of another market.

Side note
Interestingly enough though.
I've been in direct contact with SOOO many positive cases.. its fucking sickening.
They would wheel the extreme ones past me while I was building new control features, every few hours when this shit started.
I'm convinced I have antibodies and theres no reason for me to get q vaccine
 
I suppose the middle ground days are gone lol

I believe Covid is real and dangerous (New tests from blood service Canada said that 1/5 batches tested, tested positive for Covid antibodies)
I'm fairly sure I got it before the vivid scare became a thing, wish I could test for antibodies.

However, even if I hadnt.
Not a fan of the vaccine
We dont know enough about the selectivity of the vaccine for "Turning off" certain DNA pieces.

Let me put it this way.

After the invention of Nolvadex, it took something like 10 years to create Raloxifene.
What they accomplished is making Ralox MORE selective of the estrogen receptors in the breast.
Excellent accomplishment.
But we are dealing with something far more complex than estrogen receptors and binding affinity of said estrogen receptors.

We have no clue as to the ling term effects and affinities of the current type of vaccines.

Also
As a COMPLETE disclaimer to ALL my opinions
AND a great reason to throw my opinion out of the window.
It's part of my job as an IPAC (infectious protection and control) guy to be in situations where immuno compromised people are everywhere (Hey look, a 4 year old girl with cancer and going through Chemo... 5 feet away... fuck...)
So I get tested a MINIMUM of twice a week as a prerequisite for doing what I do.

So if I DO get Covid (Again?) there is very little lead time to me isolating and my elder loved ones are not at risk.

So, yeah..... just ignore me lol
Cytotoxins are no joke my dude.
 
I get this sentiment, but it makes me laugh when people say “99.4% of people survive COVID. It’s not that dangerous.” then turn around and claim that a vaccine is dangerous because of a 0.0006% chance of serious side effects.

If you consider probability a reasonable metric to base decisions off of (you should) then be consistent. Probabilities don’t flip on their head based on how much you like something or not.

For the record I do believe covid is real.. and dangerous(to some), but due to the lack of knowledge of the vaccine and it's long term affects I will not be volunteering for it any time soon. I would only get the vaccine if it was necessary(work or something important to ME).

Truthfully I believe I may have already had covid in the early days, but since I'm not the type to stand in line just to have someone tell me I'm sick, that is only speculation..
 
No I agree. As I was saying. I don't think it's inherently as dangerous as it's made out to be, the thing I'm actually concerned about is as I said the reported scaring in the lungs. I already have more than enough difficulty getting full breathes of air.

I just can't stand the guys going around saying its fake when they don't even know what a virus actually is. I've been sitting back for the whole thing. To which I agree. 1 large lock down, get it done.

We now have district travel restrictions however all winter anywhere I was was absolutely flooded by albertan snowmobilers. They claim to care about bringing down numbers, right up until money is involved. The majority may not be from border crossings however revelstoke was having a very hard time controlling cases this winter. Along with just as difficult of a time contact tracing. Could it be coincidence that people come from several provinces over to enjoy their snow?

And I'm not arguing with you, I'm genuinely curious what you think about that as you appear to be quite aware. I personally just believe anyone who doesn't have a science background. Just needs to shut the fuck up about their beliefs on the subject. Politicians and myself included. Let's just get this fucking thing over with.

Everyone is a scientist. You don’t have to take tens of thousands of dollars of debt to attend some government subsidized post secondary institution with liberal professors drilling communism into you to be informed.

This board should be the perfect example of that. We are literally taking underground pharmaceuticals from guys who’s experience and education is all self taught. Or we are dealing with AIs and 5 alpha reductase theories reading scientific studies to come to conclusions.

but I guess since your not a pharmacist maybe you should stop taking gear and stop talking about how to combat estro sides and all that kind of stuff entirely

just using your logic

Covid is a fucking joke and it’s only being used to control us. It is a control thing and that is it. You say your worried about long term lung health effects, but don’t you occasionally smoke here and there if I remember correct?

that’s just proof how politicized this whole covid thing is and how brainwashed people are
 
Everyone is a scientist. You don’t have to take tens of thousands of dollars of debt to attend some government subsidized post secondary institution with liberal professors drilling communism into you to be informed.

This board should be the perfect example of that. We are literally taking underground pharmaceuticals from guys who’s experience and education is all self taught. Or we are dealing with AIs and 5 alpha reductase theories reading scientific studies to come to conclusions.

but I guess since your not a pharmacist maybe you should stop taking gear and stop talking about how to combat estro sides and all that kind of stuff entirely

just using your logic

Covid is a fucking joke and it’s only being used to control us. It is a control thing and that is it. You say your worried about long term lung health effects, but don’t you occasionally smoke here and there if I remember correct?

that’s just proof how politicized this whole covid thing is and how brainwashed people are

I have a cousin and aunt who are both nurses and both would disagree with you profusely lol.

The threat from covid is real, some people will die, but the MAJOR factor is if lots of people get covid and require hospitalization it will completely bog down all hospitals and that in turn will fuck up the lives of MANY non sick citizens.

That being said the politicians and health officials who are just basically politicians as well are handling this shit like complete fucking morons. They didn't create this situation, but sure as fuck are using it to gane popularity and whatever else as they are all scumbags!
 
I have a cousin and aunt who are both nurses and both would disagree with you profusely lol.

The threat from covid is real, some people will die, but the MAJOR factor is if lots of people get covid and require hospitalization it will completely bog down all hospitals and that in turn will fuck up the lives of MANY non sick citizens.

That being said the politicians and health officials who are just basically politicians as well are handling this shit like complete fucking morons. They didn't create this situation, but sure as fuck are using it to gane popularity and whatever else as they are all scumbags!

I know nurses and doctors too, and they would heavily agree with me.

of all the covid deaths in Canada, it’s something like 95% of them were in old folks homes. They would die from the flu, and have every year previous to this year. Covid is nothing special.

politicians are using this to enforce tyranny and take away our freedoms and gain more control. Vaccine passports and mask mandates and economic shutdowns.. cmon it’s fucking obvious this is all a fucking plot to make the elites more elite and the normal people like us more normal.

the WHO even calls it the “great global economic reset” on their page. They are using this as an opportunity to enforce more government. You will own nothing because you won’t be able to pay for it, which is what they’re doing now. Making businesses close down and go out of bussiness. People losing their homes.

in the end you will own nothing, the government will own everything and they will give it to you or you will rent it from them.

call it a conspiracy theory, but 1 year ago you would have called travel restrictions and bussiness closures a conspiracy. 6 months ago you would have called vaccine passports a conspiracy.

when it’s happening right in front of you, it isn’t a conspiracy anymore.
 
I know nurses and doctors too, and they would heavily agree with me.

of all the covid deaths in Canada, it’s something like 95% of them were in old folks homes. They would die from the flu, and have every year previous to this year. Covid is nothing special.

politicians are using this to enforce tyranny and take away our freedoms and gain more control. Vaccine passports and mask mandates and economic shutdowns.. cmon it’s fucking obvious this is all a fucking plot to make the elites more elite and the normal people like us more normal.

the WHO even calls it the “great global economic reset” on their page. They are using this as an opportunity to enforce more government. You will own nothing because you won’t be able to pay for it, which is what they’re doing now. Making businesses close down and go out of bussiness. People losing their homes.

in the end you will own nothing, the government will own everything and they will give it to you or you will rent it from them.

call it a conspiracy theory, but 1 year ago you would have called travel restrictions and bussiness closures a conspiracy. 6 months ago you would have called vaccine passports a conspiracy.

when it’s happening right in front of you, it isn’t a conspiracy anymore.
I was gonna say my mom would agree with most of that from your previous comment there, and she’s a medical professional as well.
 
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