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Lol 300 sucks man. I can't imagine pros who walk around like that shorter than me. You become very lethargic and breathe like a walrus lol
That's why I'm trying to stay lean that 30 pounds makes me feel a lot better

My heaviest was 235 and my gf told me I stopped breathing one night when she was beside me and it freaked her out. My doctor wanted me to do a sleep clinic haha I knew the reasons though.
 
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Hahaha yes and no!!!!

I've been experimenting with it myself. I gotta say in lots of respects I've never felt better with a reasonable test level. I've yet to blast hard with it.

And ya I don't do insulin or gh really... so maybe there is more merit I haven't read.

Hey man everyone is different so until you try it you never know for sure
If it works run with it!
 
My heaviest was 235 and my gf told me I stopped breathing one night when she was beside me and it freaked her out. My doctor wanted me to do a sleep clinic haha I knew the reasons though.

I hear ya I been meaning to get a sleep apnea machine
 
Hey fellas,

Not to hi-jack the thread, but I'm interested in hearing thoughts on what would be a good second cycle after running a test only cycle.

I've been thinking about test E or P with an oral.

@Test_Subject

I'd either add in some masteron or an oral of some sort. Mast is a very forgiving compound. Orals are great as long as you're smart about using them.

I always use long estered test because I don't really care for pinning, but if you can deal with feeling like a pin cushion, prop is more effective at the same dose.
 
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I'd either add in some masteron or an oral of some sort. Mast is a very forgiving compound. Orals are great as long as you're smart about using them.

I always use long estered test because I don't really care for pinning, but if you can deal with feeling like a pin cushion, prop is more effective at the same dose.

I value your opinion as I know you care about recovery (reason why I stay away from tren/deca.)

Would a masteron & test prop cycle be easier to recover from? Thoughts on EQ?

And thanks to everyone else for the feedback.
 
I value your opinion as I know you care about recovery (reason why I stay away from tren/deca.)

Would a masteron & test prop cycle be easier to recover from? Thoughts on EQ?

And thanks to everyone else for the feedback.

Mast is very mild. Even more so than test. Recovery shouldn't be a problem at all -- especially if you use test P and mast P.

I'm not really a fan of EQ. It didn't do much for me, but some people swear by it. It's one of those things that I guess you have to try out to see if it works well for you.
 
Mast is very mild. Even more so than test. Recovery shouldn't be a problem at all -- especially if you use test P and mast P.

I'm not really a fan of EQ. It didn't do much for me, but some people swear by it. It's one of those things that I guess you have to try out to see if it works well for you.

100 pct what is said above
I respond so well to eq
But tren does fuck all for me
Everyone is different
 
@Test_Subject Cheers.

Thanks fellas.

I'm leaning towards either D-Bol with Test E or Test P and Mast P.

I'll do some more reading.
Generally you only add one compound at a time but dbol and mast are both pretty predictable. Dbol converts to estro pretty hard so be sure you're on top of that and checking for gyno. And of course mast is a DHT derivative so be prepared for all the things that come with that, including hair loss, possible prostate issues, high sex drive.
You made a good choice by bypassing the deca suggestion.
 
Generally you only add one compound at a time but dbol and mast are both pretty predictable. Dbol converts to estro pretty hard so be sure you're on top of that and checking for gyno. And of course mast is a DHT derivative so be prepared for all the things that come with that, including hair loss, possible prostate issues, high sex drive.
You made a good choice by bypassing the deca suggestion.

Fair enough.

I'm more interested in leaner & keepable gains. Since D-Bol brings on a lot of water weight I'll probably end up running Mast.

For those who have ran it, how long did you run it for and at what dose? I've read that 600mg for 10-12 weeks is a common practice?
 
Heads up boys, im running some Zentec Test P that is absolutely bunk. To say im pissed off would be a massive understatement, got 6 bottles of this shit.
 
Hey fellas,

Not to hi-jack the thread, but I'm interested in hearing thoughts on what would be a good second cycle after running a test only cycle.

I've been thinking about test E or P with an oral.

@Test_Subject

These guys are throwing a lot at you man. Second cycle keep it super basic

If you're bulking
test enth 500mg a week for 8-10 weeks with dbol or anadrol

if leaning out
test prop 150mg every other day with anavar or winny for 6-8 weeks. Leave all those other compounds for down the road.

Basic is best. All the other goodies have their place years down the road
 
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