Capping Questions

[Heavy Iron]

So recently had my first attempt with some caps. I'm using a CAPSULE -IT filling machine. Pretty badass actually. I ended up with some caps not full. Second round seemed better but had difficulty fitting it all. So seeing where I went wrong or better techniques.

Finished product is 100 caps Dbol 25mg.
1. Weighed one empty capsule. .118g (118mg)
2. Added filler. No tamper.
3. Cap weight with filler. .388g (388mg)
4. Filler weight (388-118) .270 (270mg)
5. 270mg filler minus raws 25mg is 245mg for total filler per cap.

24.5g filler and 2.5g raws. Mixed it thoroughly and added to to caps and ended with like 6 less than half full. I didn't tamper so idk wtf.

Second batch was the same except when I added the filler in the first cap to get filler weight I tampered this time and got .520g (520mg) minus cap and raws weight is 375mg total filler per cap and 37.5 g total filler. Had difficulty fitting it all.

Just looking for where I went wrong or an easier method. I thought about adding just filler and tampering down and mixing the raws to equivalent weight in the rest of the filler and adding that to the rest of the space of the caps if that makes sense. Any pointers is appreciated.

 

[MrRoidsen]

Filler and raw have different density.
You should also weight a capsule full of raw so you know how much space will your raw dose occupy in the cap.
Lets say that 25mg of raw occupy 25% of capsule, so you should add 75% of filler, that is 75% of the filler weight in the capsule.

 

[Heavy Iron]

Filler and raw have different density.
You should also weight a capsule full of raw so you know how much space will your raw dose occupy in the cap.
Lets say that 25mg of raw occupy 25% of capsule, so you should add 75% of filler, that is 75% of the filler weight in the capsule.

I have that listed as number 3. The weight of the cap with filler. Then number 4 is just filler weight (weight without cap). Number 5 is subtracting the raws weight to account for space. So idk.

 

[MrRoidsen]

I have that listed as number 3. The weight of the cap with filler. Then number 4 is just filler weight (weight without cap). Number 5 is subtracting the raws weight to account for space. So idk.

I will try to explain again.
Yes you did weight a cap full of filler, but you also need to weight a cap full of raw. Because filler and raw have different density.
Let's say for example a cap full of raw is 100mg, and a cap full of filler is 200mg.
You want 25mg of raw in a capsule, that is 25% of 100mg, so now you know that the rest 75% has to be occupied with the filler.
Then you do 75% of 200mg, and that gives you 150mg.
Now you know that each capsule will have 25mg of raw and 150mg of filler.
Then you multiply that for the number of capsule you want to do. In your case 100, that gives you 2.5g of raw and 15g of filler, for the example.

 

[Heavy Iron]

I will try to explain again.
Yes you did weight a cap full of filler, but you also need to weight a cap full of raw. Because filler and raw have different density.
Let's say for example a cap full of raw is 100mg, and a cap full of filler is 200mg.
You want 25mg of raw in a capsule, that is 25% of 100mg, so now you know that the rest 75% has to be occupied with the filler.
Then you do 75% of 200mg, and that gives you 150mg.
Now you know that each capsule will have 25mg of raw and 150mg of filler.
Then you multiply that for the number of capsule you want to do. In your case 100, that gives you 2.5g of raw and 15g of filler, for the example.

Okay yeah makes sense. Because the volume of say protein powder may be significantly more than the volume of the raws despite being the same weight. Idk why I'm having such a hard time with this. Lmao. I found this. Which it makes complete sense now.

1. Fill a capsule with your filler, including tampering if you plan on doing so with your ‘real’ capsules.

2. Determine how much filler weight occupies this specific capsule. This will give you a weight/volume ratio and you can determine the
relative density of the filler.

3. Fill a capsule with your active ingredient (Anadrol, DNP etc.), including tampering if you plan on doing so with your ‘real’ capsules.

4. Determine how much active ingredient weight occupies this specific capsule. This will give you a weight/volume ratio and you can determine the relative density of the active ingredient.

5. Now you have to do the ‘more involved’ math to determine the correct ratio of filler to active ingredient.

1) Determine the dosage of active ingredient you’d like per capsule.

2) For example you want 10mg Dianabol capsules. You determined your filler density to be 500 mg per capsule and your active ingredient density to be 400 mg per capsule.Now you have to set up the two equations and then cross multiply and solve for the unknown.

10 mg Dianabol = Unknown mg Filler

400 mg Dianabol = 500 mg Filler

10 mg Dianabol x 500 mg Filler = 400 mg Dianbol x Unknown mg Filler

(10 mg Dianabol x 500 mg Filler) / 400 mg Dianbol = Unknown mg Filler

Unknown mg Filler = 12.5 mg

NOW you take the total quantity of filler that will fit in one capsule and subtract the Unknown Filler amount we just calculated.

500 mg filler – 12.5 mg = 487.5 mg filler per capsule

Now you’ve got all the information you need to make 10 mg Dianabol capsules. For every capsule you make you need 10 mg of Dianabol
and 487.5 mg of filler, so for 50 capsules just multiply these two numbers by a factor of 50.

 

[Heavy Iron]

So for example. Cap full of filler weighs 372mg. Cap full of raw weighs 166mg.

Dosage is 25mg

(25 × 372) ÷ 166= 56.02

372 - 56.02= 315.98 × 100 caps = 31.598gs of filler

 

[Heavy Iron]

@Jet Labs validate me bro. Lol. Is this right.

 

[Jet Labs]

@Jet Labs validate me bro. Lol. Is this right.

Pfffffft I did one round of caps then immediately switched to tabs cause FUCK CAPS lol.

 

[HulkSmash4567]

Based on what @Heavy Iron said, if my math is correct you need 12.17g of filler

I made an excel sheet to help with the calculations

 

[Justaguy99]

I've been looking at cap filler boards.
Where I get confused is filling.
Do I fill each cap at a time with dosage then mass fill with filler?
Otherwise how you get accurate dosing...?

 

[ChiltonLabs]

I've been looking at cap filler boards.
Where I get confused is filling.
Do I fill each cap at a time with dosage then mass fill with filler?
Otherwise how you get accurate dosing...?

1. Fill a capsule with your filler, including tampering if you plan on doing so with your ‘real’ capsules.

2. Determine how much filler weight occupies this specific capsule. This will give you a weight/volume ratio and you can determine the
relative density of the filler.

3. Fill a capsule with your active ingredient (Anadrol, DNP etc.), including tampering if you plan on doing so with your ‘real’ capsules.

4. Determine how much active ingredient weight occupies this specific capsule. This will give you a weight/volume ratio and you can determine the relative density of the active ingredient.

5. Now you have to do the ‘more involved’ math to determine the correct ratio of filler to active ingredient.

1) Determine the dosage of active ingredient you’d like per capsule.

2) For example you want 10mg Dianabol capsules. You determined your filler density to be 500 mg per capsule and your active ingredient density to be 400 mg per capsule.Now you have to set up the two equations and then cross multiply and solve for the unknown.

10 mg Dianabol = Unknown mg Filler

400 mg Dianabol = 500 mg Filler

10 mg Dianabol x 500 mg Filler = 400 mg Dianbol x Unknown mg Filler

(10 mg Dianabol x 500 mg Filler) / 400 mg Dianbol = Unknown mg Filler

Unknown mg Filler = 12.5 mg

NOW you take the total quantity of filler that will fit in one capsule and subtract the Unknown Filler amount we just calculated.

500 mg filler – 12.5 mg = 487.5 mg filler per capsule

Now you’ve got all the information you need to make 10 mg Dianabol capsules. For every capsule you make you need 10 mg of Dianabol
and 487.5 mg of filler, so for 50 capsules just multiply these two numbers by a factor of 50.