Carbohydrates

Ya I eat 1 cup oatmeal and banana with breakfast (pre-workout), 25g carbs pre, intra, and post, 175g white rice post, 2 slices Ezekiel Bread for lunch, 175g brown rice for 3:00 snack, and no carbs the rest of the day. But adjust for you brother.
Thanks H0517.
How long do you wait to workout after eating a cup of oatmeal? Do you take a caffeinated preworkout also?
I need the caffeine and find it works better on an empty stomach. (I workout 4:30am) I cant not want to eat before so I workout pretty much fasted besides my protein shake
 
Thanks H0517.
How long do you wait to workout after eating a cup of oatmeal? Do you take a caffeinated preworkout also?
I need the caffeine and find it works better on an empty stomach. (I workout 4:30am) I cant not want to eat before so I workout pretty much fasted besides my protein shake

Personally I like to get post workout oatmeal and a lean protein 1-2 hours post workout. However this follows an immediate post workout meal, like take it to the gym with you and immediately consume after your last set. Whey protein and fruit sugar is the norm for me. Super fast acting protein and carbs to begin the recovery process ASAP.

In my opinion I would not lift fasted my man. Your muscles will deplete way too early and you won’t get the most out of your session. A challenge of early sessions I know, but you will gain much better with protein and carbs in your system pre workout.
 
Thanks H0517.
How long do you wait to workout after eating a cup of oatmeal? Do you take a caffeinated preworkout also?
I need the caffeine and find it works better on an empty stomach. (I workout 4:30am) I cant not want to eat before so I workout pretty much fasted besides my protein shake

Ya working out at 4:30 would be tough.

I get up at 5 and drink protein and greens shake and eat 1/2 cup pineapple (forgot those carbs earlier).

Then get ready and cook breakfast with oatmeal at 6

I drink my pre-workout w/ caffeine and simple carbs with breakfast to get some carbs in my system quickly while the oatmeal digests. (I’ve been on evogen supps so EVP Extreme and Glycoject).

I get to the gym at about 6:30-6:45 and warm-up on a bike or treadmill for 10 minutes to give the food and supps time to digest.

Glycoject intra.

Protein and Glycoject post (as soon as I walk in the locker room)

Post workout meal with white rice 45-60 minutes after shake when I get to work.
 
Personally I like to get post workout oatmeal and a lean protein 1-2 hours post workout. However this follows an immediate post workout meal, like take it to the gym with you and immediately consume after your last set. Whey protein and fruit sugar is the norm for me. Super fast acting protein and carbs to begin the recovery process ASAP.

In my opinion I would not lift fasted my man. Your muscles will deplete way too early and you won’t get the most out of your session. A challenge of early sessions I know, but you will gain much better with protein and carbs in your system pre workout.
I shouldn’t have said fasted. I meant I don’t eat anything solid but I do down a shake and a carb supplement
 
Personally I like to get post workout oatmeal and a lean protein 1-2 hours post workout. However this follows an immediate post workout meal, like take it to the gym with you and immediately consume after your last set. Whey protein and fruit sugar is the norm for me. Super fast acting protein and carbs to begin the recovery process ASAP.

In my opinion I would not lift fasted my man. Your muscles will deplete way too early and you won’t get the most out of your session. A challenge of early sessions I know, but you will gain much better with protein and carbs in your system pre workout.

You don’t need anything immediately pre workout nor do you need anything immediately post workout (especially if you’re eating before working out). A mixed meal is going to elevate insulin and amino acid levels for hours after you’re done eating.
 
You don’t need anything immediately pre workout nor do you need anything immediately post workout (especially if you’re eating before working out). A mixed meal is going to elevate insulin and amino acid levels for hours after you’re done eating.

Ah I see. What about glycogen store depletion during a workout? I was thinking the food pre, intra and post kept those levels high therefore initiating recovery faster. Or perhaps glycogen has to do simply with energy levels and amino acid levels are what’s critical for recovery?
 
Glycogen levels are not fully depleted with your typical lifting routines, even if you’re fasted for a bit. It also takes a while for carbs to be stored as glycogen so anything you eat intra or post won’t be affecting glycogen levels during the actual training.

There’s also no real rush to restore glycogen unless you plan on lifting the same body part twice in the same day or maybe you’re doing some long endurance events.
 
Glycogen levels are not fully depleted with your typical lifting routines, even if you’re fasted for a bit. It also takes a while for carbs to be stored as glycogen so anything you eat intra or post won’t be affecting glycogen levels during the actual training.

There’s also no real rush to restore glycogen unless you plan on lifting the same body part twice in the same day or maybe you’re doing some long endurance events.

Awesome! Ok that’s great stuff, Doc. Much obliged. It’s possible I was concerned about depleted glycogen stores due to misinformation from the supplement industry ha
 
Plenty of studies show it's calories followed by protein that matter most. But carbs in the Peri workout window only works well, same with carb cutoffs but again all this talk about nutrition timing on this board is all about majoring in the minors for most on here.
 

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