Confused about the riots ?

[LeoTC]

You create your own class division if you choose not to change your own circumstances. Just because you’re born into poverty doesn’t mean you have to stay that way. Just because you’re born into a shitty, inner-city environment doesn’t mean you have to resort to crime and gang-banging like the other jackasses around you. Before you start to go off on some tangent presuming that I grew up eating from a silver spoon, just go ahead and shut your mouth. The reason I can sit here and say you DONT have to live as a stereotype and get sucked into the machine is because I brought myself out of it, as have countless others. Instead of claiming to be a victim of society’s bias, how about you re-write the narrative and re-write your life. You have a CHOICE. And no, I’m not saying “you” as in you yourself, I’m saying “you” to anyone it applies to. The EASY route is to claim society has it out for you. It’s EASY to just take the sleezy way out and sell dope, rob others, and contribute to being a stain on society. You want change? You want to change the stereotype? Then BE the change you want to see.

Plain flies high, turns left.

What I said isn't about poverty or race. They may be related discussions, but I'm not addressing either.

Read it until you comprehend it and then get back.

 

[Vincentino]

Plain flies high, turns left.

What I said isn't about poverty or race. They may be related discussions, but I'm not addressing either.

Read it until you comprehend it and then get back.

YOU may not be addressing either, but I was, because it’s all related. I have a good comprehension of it, which is why I responded to what resounded with me.

 

[LeoTC]

YOU may not be addressing either, but I was, because it’s all related. I have a good comprehension of it, which is why I responded to what resounded with me.

Plane comes around for a second pass, turns right.

Who was addressing you, cowboy?

"Work within the system, it's your fault, bootstraps, rabble, rabble. These people rioting are just thugs and animals, what is it going to accomplish?"

To say your thought process is reductive would be an understatement.

I was addressing the notion that there's no call for violence. The idea that non-violent demonstration is the end all be all.

It's not remotely the case, and violence has historically been the primary driver of executive and societal change.

Read it again.

 

[Vincentino]

Plane comes around for a second pass, turns right.

Who was addressing you, cowboy?

"Work within the system, it's your fault, bootstraps, rabble, rabble. These people rioting are just thugs and animals, what is it going to accomplish?"

To say your thought process is reductive would be an understatement.

I was addressing the notion that there's no call for violence. The idea that non-violent demonstration is the end all be all.

It's not remotely the case, and violence has historically been the primary driver of executive and societal change.

Read it again.

Lol who was addressing me? My God-given right to respond to whatever I feel like, cowboy.
Whatever you say boss man, if that what you think you were trying to convey then perhaps you should go back and read ALL of your points, not just the bullshit about violent/non-violent protest. I wasn’t responding to those parts. I was responding to the fact that you seem to think that protesting is the only way to change things, and the fact that change would be better served coming from the individuals that feel taken advantage of by the system. Your point isn’t the only one that’s valid bud, so stop trying to make it seem like we all need to cater to what you’re saying and that we need to re-read what you said when I’m doing perfectly fine by my response.

 

[Peltz]

Christianity taught pacifism in the face of tyranny. It brought about the dark ages through asceticism.

When you sit on your ass and act like a good little boy other people and nature itself will take advantage of that weakness.

If you want something and people are holding you down, you have two choices, not doing anything which is considered good by those who rule, or getting off your ass and wiping out your rulers. There is no middle ground to meet between these two groups.

Nietzsche called it a slave morality.... kindness, empathy, and sympathy. All good for letting someone bend you over and stick it up your rump without lube.

 

[Peltz]

You create your own class division if you choose not to change your own circumstances. Just because you’re born into poverty doesn’t mean you have to stay that way. Just because you’re born into a shitty, inner-city environment doesn’t mean you have to resort to crime and gang-banging like the other jackasses around you. Before you start to go off on some tangent presuming that I grew up eating from a silver spoon, just go ahead and shut your mouth. The reason I can sit here and say you DONT have to live as a stereotype and get sucked into the machine is because I brought myself out of it, as have countless others. Instead of claiming to be a victim of society’s bias, how about you re-write the narrative and re-write your life. You have a CHOICE. And no, I’m not saying “you” as in you yourself, I’m saying “you” to anyone it applies to. The EASY route is to claim society has it out for you. It’s EASY to just take the sleezy way out and sell dope, rob others, and contribute to being a stain on society. You want change? You want to change the stereotype? Then BE the change you want to see.

This to me stinks of religious gobble gook.

Think positive, be a good boy, act the way society expects, kiss ass, don't offend those in charge, play by the rules and even when they spit and call you nigger, just keep smiling and channeling those positive vibes.

Fuck all that shit. The time for being polite is over.

 

[Vincentino]

This to me stinks of religious gobble gook.

Think positive, be a good boy, act the way society expects, kiss ass, don't offend those in charge, play by the rules and even when they spit and call you nigger, just keep smiling and channeling those positive vibes.

Fuck all that shit. The time for being polite is over.

If that’s what you gathered from my comment then I just feel sorry for you bud. God-forbid someone suggest that you just be a decent human and do well for yourself instead of being a piece of shit on society.

 

[Peltz]

If that’s what you gathered from my comment then I just feel sorry for you bud. God-forbid someone suggest that you just be a decent human and do well for yourself instead of being a piece of shit on society.

The problem is as a white guy you're not being targeted. You weren't Jim Crowed. If cops were following you around 24/7 you'd probably have an arrest record like 1 in 3 blacks.

Being a nice guy to those that are nice to you.....commonsense.

To those that tell you aren't being a patriotic American for calling out the bullshit and evil that makes up the shadowy underbelly of the American Dream.

This is Trumps entire view, if you protest, if you state that I'm tired of the bullshit, if you tear down racist statues and all the other crap that reminds you of a class system based on skin color and the Potus calls you out as a traitor, marxist, terrorist, then there's a problem and it needs to be addressed.

Why would you put statues, flags and all the other things that whip people up in a nationalistic frenzy on a pedestal and yet the real grievances that many people have in this country are disregarded or outright shouted down.

To put a man in prison for 10 years because he tore down a racist statue. That's some fucked up shit you would expect in a country ran by a totalitarian dictator.

I'm white and i want these statutes torn down, I'd love to see Mt. Rushmore returned to just being a mountain after those faces are blown off. Who the fuck gave us white guys the right to take over a country owned by natives and deface the dam thing anyway. Those natives protesting trump were looked upon as filth by the invading white hoards that came to listen to Trump, when the true filth is the fat pile of shit running this country into the ground.

 

[ickyrica]

The problem is as a white guy you're not being targeted. You weren't Jim Crowed. If cops were following you around 24/7 you'd probably have an arrest record like 1 in 3 blacks.

yes, white people are most certainly being targeted. Both by the police and public. There are countless videos online of whites being physically beat by minorities simply because they are white. The sad part is most videos show people harming elderly and animals. This is a trendy new thing that's gaining steam around the nation. There are 25+ years of a TV show called COPS that has more than enough proof to show police abuse against every color of skin, because of their color. All it takes to be targeted by LEO when you're white is to be in the wrong neighborhood. I've personally been stopped and questioned because of that. Welcome to Tremont & MLK Blvd in Roxbury at 11pm, as a "white" guy not stumbling around like a crack head. I'd have stopped me, too. To say whites aren't targeted because of their skin color is simply untrue. You know what saved my ass? Being friends with William Gross, their boss. Welcome to white privilege maybe? Maybe not, Billy isn't white and I'm only half white (so we'll call it a quarter white privilege for your delicate sensibilities) This isn't a one off thing dude. Why don't you give it a go. Stroll down Columbia in Dorchester on a Friday night. Maybe a nice casual late night dinner in Rosi or JP. Let me know how you make out and if you were profiled by LEO or POC. Be careful on Columbia, that's cape verdean territory. I can chaperone you if you wanna check it out. I know a guy, so we're good.

This is Trumps entire view, if you protest, if you state that I'm tired of the bullshit, if you tear down racist statues and all the other crap that reminds you of a class system based on skin color and the Potus calls you out as a traitor, marxist, terrorist, then there's a problem and it needs to be addressed

there is a problem. Animals are running around breaking the law and destroying whatever they feel should be destroyed. This has included statues of folks that did horrible things but it has also included statues and monuments of fellow African Americans and those that helped POC despite slavery being "in fashion". It has also included millions of dollars in damages and lost merchandise/revenue to POC owned businesses. Oh, and all those white, Asian and Latino owned businesses that got destroyed as well.... They should all be charged and penalized in accordance with the law. I hope the same goes for those that destroy anything that isn't theirs. No matter the skin color, fucking animals.

Who the fuck gave us white guys the right to take over a country owned by natives and deface the dam thing anyway

the same folks that gave the native Americans the right to destroy, rape and burn their fellow native Americans at will. And btw, go ask a native American if their or any other NA nation owned land.

You act like white people are the only problem in north American history. There's more than enough blame in all directions and trying to assign it out like a fucking stern teacher wagging his finger at everyone is sad. My fear is that by the time enough of you twits figure out that a rising tide floats all boats there won't be a harbor to dock in anymore.

At your age you should not have to be told this: grow up.

Fucking anarchist my ballbag. You leave your mother's basement more than a half a dozen times since covid hit? Your next name should be emotional discharge.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

The problem is as a white guy you're not being targeted. You weren't Jim Crowed. If cops were following you around 24/7 you'd probably have an arrest record like 1 in 3 blacks.

Being a nice guy to those that are nice to you.....commonsense.

To those that tell you aren't being a patriotic American for calling out the bullshit and evil that makes up the shadowy underbelly of the American Dream.

This is Trumps entire view, if you protest, if you state that I'm tired of the bullshit, if you tear down racist statues and all the other crap that reminds you of a class system based on skin color and the Potus calls you out as a traitor, marxist, terrorist, then there's a problem and it needs to be addressed.

Why would you put statues, flags and all the other things that whip people up in a nationalistic frenzy on a pedestal and yet the real grievances that many people have in this country are disregarded or outright shouted down.

To put a man in prison for 10 years because he tore down a racist statue. That's some fucked up shit you would expect in a country ran by a totalitarian dictator.

I'm white and i want these statutes torn down, I'd love to see Mt. Rushmore returned to just being a mountain after those faces are blown off. Who the fuck gave us white guys the right to take over a country owned by natives and deface the dam thing anyway. Those natives protesting trump were looked upon as filth by the invading white hoards that came to listen to Trump, when the true filth is the fat pile of shit running this country into the ground.

 

[ickyrica]

The problem is as a white guy you're not being targeted. You weren't Jim Crowed. If cops were following you around 24/7 you'd probably have an arrest record like 1 in 3 blacks.

Being a nice guy to those that are nice to you.....commonsense.

To those that tell you aren't being a patriotic American for calling out the bullshit and evil that makes up the shadowy underbelly of the American Dream.

This is Trumps entire view, if you protest, if you state that I'm tired of the bullshit, if you tear down racist statues and all the other crap that reminds you of a class system based on skin color and the Potus calls you out as a traitor, marxist, terrorist, then there's a problem and it needs to be addressed.

Why would you put statues, flags and all the other things that whip people up in a nationalistic frenzy on a pedestal and yet the real grievances that many people have in this country are disregarded or outright shouted down.

To put a man in prison for 10 years because he tore down a racist statue. That's some fucked up shit you would expect in a country ran by a totalitarian dictator.

I'm white and i want these statutes torn down, I'd love to see Mt. Rushmore returned to just being a mountain after those faces are blown off. Who the fuck gave us white guys the right to take over a country owned by natives and deface the dam thing anyway. Those natives protesting trump were looked upon as filth by the invading white hoards that came to listen to Trump, when the true filth is the fat pile of shit running this country into the ground.

Oh and btw, since you're the guy handing out all of the MENSA cards why don't you offer civil solutions?

Btw, what do you consider a Jew? I remember you saying you know one when you see one. Please, expand on that statement. Don't be a pussy, speak your mind

 

[flenser]

This write up honestly began as a response to a rather wishy washy friend that doesn't get involved, is completely blind to their own privilege, and actively fosters the furtherance of their own personal echo chamber while condemning those that stand.

Fuck that, too many of you are too clueless and too deeply indoctrinated.

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The philosophy of nonviolence is admirable but ahistorical, often touted by those who are blessed enough not to have to fight for their survival on a daily basis.

Those with the luxury of dismissing or ignoring class divisions.

Nonviolence is an ideology employed to portray the violence of the oppressed as 'irrational' and the violence of the oppressor as 'rational.'

Ghandi, for example, is championed as a leader who's nonviolent protest brought the British empire to it's knees.

However, that's a fairytale propagated by the upper echelon of society. It encouraged colonized peoples not to overthrow their colonizers.

In reality, the economic drain of WWII prompted Britain to give up it's colonies in India, Pakistan, Jordan, Myanmar, Sri-Lanka, and Palestine. It most definitely wasn't fasting and marching.

When the oppressed fight, they stand a chance of winning.

Those in power are keenly aware of this.

They actively discourage the masses from fighting back. Teaching us that nonviolence is noble from a young age and going so far as to sanctify those revolutionary ideals - 'justice, freedom, peace' - so long as the oppressed petition for mercy and disarm themselves.

An empire is only concerned with nonviolence when it raises consciousness enough to spark violence.

To force change.

The French Revolution, American Revolution, Irish War of Independence, Haitian Revolution, The Holocaust, Suffragette Movement, Cuban Revolution, Stonewall / LGBTQ Movement, ZANU Movement of Zimbabwe, etc...

There is honor in standing up, there is honor in armed and violent struggle.

The violence of the oppressed is not the violence of the oppressor. One is a means of achieving hard fought liberation, the other a means of achieving and maintaining dominion.

Fighting is an act of love, bravery, and sacrifice that risks imprisonment and death.

Keep. Fighting.

Tiocfaidh ár Aá

Violence against your oppressor is one thing. It's usually a mistake, usually fails, but you definitely have the right to try. But the violence has been random, and largely against innocent people who are not your oppressors.

If you haven't noticed, the people doing the oppressing are backing the violence and destruction and looting. The protestors are doing exactly what the oppressors want. As soon as they get what they want, they will put an end to it.

 

[ickyrica]

Martin Luther King 'looked on and laughed' while friend raped woman, unsealed FBI documents claim

So we rip every MLK Blvd street sign out of the ground and go destroy some businesses now? Is that how this works?

 

[Uglyrichie]

I want to know why anarchists, and everyone wanting to tear down historical statues don't go after the Big 3. Because you look into their history of control, hate , racism it's truly appalling. You know Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. The Abrahamic religions. Or hell some of the recent off shoots. There's some real funky ones out there. I see their monuments every where. Me I don't have anything against religions but We are talking stuff that has happened in the past and recently.

 

[ickyrica]

I want to know why anarchists, and everyone wanting to tear down historical statues don't go after the Big 3. Because you look into their history of control, hate , racism it's truly appalling. You know Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. The Abrahamic religions. Or hell some of the recent off shoots. There's some real funky ones out there. I see their monuments every where. Me I don't have anything against religions but We are talking stuff that has happened in the past and recently.

The vast majority of them are mindless idiots waltzing around to the tune of a select few. Destroying religion doesn't fit the goal so it's left alone. If religion was in the way it would be attacked as well.

 

[TideGear]

Christianity taught pacifism in the face of tyranny. It brought about the dark ages through asceticism.

When you sit on your ass and act like a good little boy other people and nature itself will take advantage of that weakness.

If you want something and people are holding you down, you have two choices, not doing anything which is considered good by those who rule, or getting off your ass and wiping out your rulers. There is no middle ground to meet between these two groups.

Nietzsche called it a slave morality.... kindness, empathy, and sympathy. All good for letting someone bend you over and stick it up your rump without lube.

Book reference?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Oh and btw, since you're the guy handing out all of the MENSA cards why don't you offer civil solutions?

Btw, what do you consider a Jew? I remember you saying you know one when you see one. Please, expand on that statement. Don't be a pussy, speak your mind

This is probably his big tip off. If they look anything like Mort, then he does what all cowards do. Smiles in thier faces, then talks shit when they're not around to hear it.

 

[Peltz]

I want to know why anarchists, and everyone wanting to tear down historical statues don't go after the Big 3. Because you look into their history of control, hate , racism it's truly appalling. You know Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. The Abrahamic religions. Or hell some of the recent off shoots. There's some real funky ones out there. I see their monuments every where. Me I don't have anything against religions but We are talking stuff that has happened in the past and recently.

Kids raised on a steady diet of triple penetration hardcore porn and violence have no need for religion.

Most aren't even given it a thought.

Geriatrics are all that's left in these holy houses of Abrahamic necromancy.

 

[Peltz]

Book reference?

Jesus would clearly be the best example of this. A deranged rabbi that willingly submits to his own beating and execution.

Many of these so called disciples also met with a pacifists death at least in the New Testament.

This inspired a Roman Empire when Christianity became the law of the land under Constantine to sit on there ass and rot for almost 1000 years before they finally decided to stop waiting for their magical jew to show up and save the day.

 

[TideGear]

Jesus would clearly be the best example of this. A deranged rabbi that willingly submits to his own beating and execution.

Many of these so called disciples also met with a pacifists death at least in the New Testament.

This inspired a Roman Empire when Christianity became the law of the land under Constantine to sit on there ass and rot for almost 1000 years before they finally decided to stop waiting for their magical jew to show up and save the day.

No.. Nietzsche?