Crystan DNP Experts needed.

[Mikesomass]

So I ordered a bit of Crystal DNP....now that it arrived, I am sitting here wondering if what I have is actually what I think I have.

It should be: Sodium 2,4-Dinitrophenolate
Chemical Structure of: C6H3N2NaO5

The chemical structure seems to match this post here: https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134282972

In the post above, the OP indicated that the product was listed as a plant growth regulator which it was for me as well.

The long and short of it is I have now received my product and I'm not sure if there is any way to be certain on what I actually have other than by capping it and taking the plunge

I have attached some photos of the powder as well. not sure if anyone out there has handled crystal dnp powder before and can speak on if this substance looks correct.

Thanks for any help!

 

[Mikesomass]

Shit. clearly the title should have said "crystal dnp" not whatever the hell I typed. cant seem to edit it using the mobile app. will correct later.

 

[ChaseQ]

Cant tell you if thats legit but if it is youve got a shit load of DNP!

From what Ive read DNP has several strange properties. Maybe you can do some bro science and see if it "acts" right?

 

[Mr. Joe]

Dont know about dinitrophenolate, but 2,4 dinitrophenol melts at 108 C. Id look up the melting point.

 

[Mike Oxbig]

Jesus man. What is that, a kilo? That a whole lotta DNP.

Dont know about dinitrophenolate, but 2,4 dinitrophenol melts at 108 C. Id look up the melting point.

Agreed.

 

[Mikesomass]

I agree regarding the melting point. The frustrating thing is all the information seems relevant to 2,4 dinitrophenol, not dinitrophenolate for example, I searched "2,4-dinitrophenolate" and Google is giving me the chem information for the phenol (as per the attached).

I found the CAS # (1011-73-0), but when I search that, all I get is various sites directing you to suppliers of the chemical. I have found melting points (114-115), but all from international supplier sites ie tradekey. It would be nice to find an independent chemical website that gives the melting point. oh well, I guess I'll take what i can get.

I'll cap this stuff, and give it a go starting in June.... If it all works out ill update this thread. if not, ill probably start a thread titled "I'm not feeling so good, should I go to the ER?"

 

[Dr JIM]

Yep, looks like you got enough DNP (if that's what is is) to maim or kill several hundred people, if not a thousand!

Now why on God's green earth would anyone feel the feel need to make such a large purchase when the typical dose is in mg, yet it seems you have several ounces if not a pound? Perhaps Mike-o-mass well be selling this dangerous crap to "o-masses"!

One word of advise, dump the shit in the toilet before you hurt not only yourself but someone else and be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

Now that you have been forewarned this junk can and has killed people, the possibility of second degree murder could also apply should a death occur, from your "stuff'.

Other than that you will get no "advice" from me, because as a DOC I want to ensure I'm not a part of "joint and several liability" lawsuit.

Goodness get out of here.

 

[Mikesomass]

Yep, looks like you got enough DNP (if that's what is is) to maim or kill several hundred people, if not a thousand!

Now why on God's green earth would anyone feel the feel need to make such a large purchase when the typical dose is in mg, yet it seems you have several ounces if not a pound?

Well I'm sure you already know the answer to that. If not, it's due to the fact that what I purchased is the same cost as 100 caps retail.

Perhaps Mike-o-mass well be selling this dangerous crap to "o-masses"!

That's a leap, but thanks for making it.

One word of advise, dump the shit in the toilet before you hurt not only yourself but someone else and be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

Thanks for the advice, however I won't be taking it. Involuntary manslaughter? This is an interesting one. Don't get me wrong, it's a moot point as I won't be selling it, but have there been some court cases that I am unaware of (and there very well could be)? To date, any case related to an individual being charged with selling DNP that resulted in a death has been a slap on the wrist by the FDA.

Now that you have been forewarned this junk can and has killed people, the possibility of second degree murder could also apply should a death occur, from your "stuff'.

Wow, that was close. We just about had a DNP thread without someone talking about dnp being a killer. Please note you really missed the opportunity here to mention that it is used in explosives and is a poison!... don't worry, you will get it next time.

Other than that you will get no "advice" from me, because as a DOC I want to ensure I'm not a part of "joint and several liability" lawsuit.

Shame. Thanks for stating your qualifications. Regardless of your career, you could be impacted by joint and several liability. one could argue that as a Dr. you have a higher duty of care, agreed. but what this really boils down to is that this is the internet, so you may be a DOC, but I am an astrophysicist...therefore I win.

Goodness get out of here.

Thanks for your contribution to this thread. You did not address the original question, nor add any content of value.

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[Mike Oxbig]

If you bought all that for $150-200ish it's either fake or you found a pretty wicked source. If you purchased domestic odds are slim that it's real.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

During my time here, I have found Conciliator's posts to be accurate. In the following, I would pay the most attention to topical (skin) availability. From your pic, you must be one really really fat dude. Or a soon to be DEAD dude. Be Careful.

You're correct. The sodium salt of DNP is what bodybuilders refer to as "crystal DNP." Pure DNP, or the DNP base, is commonly referred to as "DNP powder."

There are a lot of myths about how the two forms differ, similar to the myths bodybuilders have about how testosterone enanthate and testosterone cypionate differ from each other. In reality, they are going to act very much the same. The primary difference is that crystal DNP is slightly weaker than powder DNP, since it is not pure DNP, but contains a sodium molecule. When the sodium is cleaved, you're left with the same DNP base that you get when you take DNP powder. Both forms are highly bioavailable, which is not surprising considering DNP is a small molecule that can even permeate skin. It's often been said that crystal DNP is 75% as strong as powder DNP, but based on the chemical structures and molar masses, it looks like crystal DNP is about 89% as strong as powder DNP (molar mass of 184.106 for powder vs 206.088 for crystal).

Hope that helps,
Conciliator

 

[Mike Oxbig]

I just read the bit about not selling. 10 grams should be good for around 20-30 lbs. of fat loss. You look to have at least a few HUNDRED grams, how big are you exactly?

 

[THE STORM SHADOW]

Trying to weigh what scares me most... Humalog or DNP

Things that make you go hmmmmmm

Whatever happened to simple Diet, clen, ephedrine, cardio? and if you're really fat... Phentermine by a 'doctor'.

 

[Mikesomass]

Whatever happened to simple Diet, clen, ephedrine, cardio? and if you're really fat... Phentermine by a 'doctor'.

My thought is that same sort of statement is used by natural bb'ers who say that you can attain a decent amount of muscle without aas. you know what happened to the old "going to the gym, eating healthy and resting, why risk it with aas?"

It all comes down to what your comfortable with. I have run dnp multiple times with no issues. granted i only do 250mg/day but i mean i don't need dnp. last contest prep, I used only clen. and even then people could say why did i need clen when i could have just increased the cardio a bit etc.

if your not comfortable with DNP or Slin, don't use either. No issue with that, i'm not about to try to talk someone into something that they feel they don't need, and that they are not comfortable with.

 

[THE STORM SHADOW]

My thought is that same sort of statement is used by natural bb'ers who say that you can attain a decent amount of muscle without aas. you know what happened to the old "going to the gym, eating healthy and resting, why risk it with aas?"

It all comes down to what your comfortable with. I have run dnp multiple times with no issues. granted i only do 250mg/day but i mean i don't need dnp. last contest prep, I used only clen. and even then people could say why did i need clen when i could have just increased the cardio a bit etc.

if your not comfortable with DNP or Slin, don't use either. No issue with that, i'm not about to try to talk someone into something that they feel they don't need, and that they are not comfortable with.

Well I'm definately not natural... I've done slin and up to 4g of test and HGH...throws that theory out the window eh?