Cycle help/opinions

[dl71]

listen, I’m a chick (like an actual female, not a chick a with a dick- just thought I’d clarify) and I’m SO overwhelmed with information so please just bear with me. I joined Meso in an attempt to educate myself and help the hubby find a reliable source. He’s ran stuff like test e, tren e, anadrol, etc before so he’s not new to it but he’s always just used a local guy that got it from who fucking knows where (he knew where it was coming from but I didn’t lol) or he’s ordered from dragon pharma before. Anyways, when I fell into the grey peptides rabbit hole, I was like why tf have we not been doing this all along?? But he’s just not the kinda guy to dive into the forums and shit so I’m just doing it for him lol so now that the explanation is out of the way, here’s what I would like some input on. His request was to find the tren e, test e, anadrol and dbol. Pretty sure this is mostly what he’s done in the past and had good results. Is this good or do any of the vets here have a better recommendation? As far as his stats, he’s 6’2 and around 220-230 ish. He’s got an insane metabolism and doesn’t seem to gain much fat if that makes sense? Like, he’s just always been more lean even when he’s not running anything or lifting. he’s not been on a cycle in a while and hasn’t lifted in months. We had a lot of big life changes over the past year and we both dropped off pretty hard and I think not being on any sort of test brought on some depression for him which just made it that much worse. so needless to say I’m trying to help him out and get him motivated again but also kinda worried for him to dive into too much right off the bat. Not that I think he doesn’t know what he’s doing, it just makes me feel more at ease to hear others input.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Steroid underground is the sub forum for sources. Takes a few days and a few posts before you can see it

 

[dl71]

Thank you, I’ve already found a source though lol

 

[readalot]

so needless to say I’m trying to help him out and get him motivated again but also kinda worried for him to dive into too much right off the bat. Not that I think he doesn’t know what he’s doing, it just makes me feel more at ease to hear others input.

Awesome. How bout start with some bloodwork?

Proficient with all this?

Thread 'Considering a first cycle....all your confusion cleared up here.'

Dec 28, 2023

So you want to dabble with AAS for body dysmorphia or cosmetic reasons?

Step 1. Understand the basic workings of hpt(g)a - hypothalamic pituitary testicular (aka gonadal) axis. Control theory. Where does testosterone exhibit negative feedback? H or P? How about estradiol?

Step 2. Understand PCT. What is it? Is it necessary? When is it necessary?

Step 3. Understand basics of pharmacokinetics/pharmacodynamics for the drugs you are considering

Step 4. What's your plan? Inject some stuff and come back to the forums in 10 to 12 weeks and ask what to do next? Short, medium...

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See a provider about TRT?

 

[knucklesamich]

I think it's awesome you're trying to help your man. Be patient and take what might come next with a grain of salt, one of the veterans here might point you in the right direction.

Edit: I see you found a source. Good luck : )

 

[dl71]

I think it's awesome you're trying to help your man. Be patient and take what might come next with a grain of salt, one of the veterans here might point you in the right direction.

Edit: I see you found a source. Good luck : )

Thank you!

 

[dl71]

Awesome. How bout start with some bloodwork?

Proficient with all this?

Thread 'Considering a first cycle....all your confusion cleared up here.'

Dec 28, 2023

So you want to dabble with AAS for body dysmorphia or cosmetic reasons?

Step 1. Understand the basic workings of hpt(g)a - hypothalamic pituitary testicular (aka gonadal) axis. Control theory. Where does testosterone exhibit negative feedback? H or P? How about estradiol?

Step 2. Understand PCT. What is it? Is it necessary? When is it necessary?

Step 3. Understand basics of pharmacokinetics/pharmacodynamics for the drugs you are considering

Step 4. What's your plan? Inject some stuff and come back to the forums in 10 to 12 weeks and ask what to do next? Short, medium...

• readalot
• harm reduction pct help testosterone cypionate testosterone enanthate
• Replies: 8
• Forum: Steroid Forum

• 

See a provider about TRT?

Yep, that’s the plan!

 

[readalot]

Yep, that’s the plan!

What's the plan? See a provider or use the source you found? Both?

Good luck.

 

[dl71]

Just gonna see provider for baseline labs. We’re self pay anyway so I’d have to imagine it’d be a hell of a lot cheaper to go the ugl route

 

[readalot]

His request was to find the tren e, test e, anadrol and dbol.

Perhaps as an alternative, get clued in to the above and see provider about proper blood work as a baseline.

Your questions confuse me paired with your terse reply? Is he looking to do things methodically this time or just throw more AAS at the wall again?

Nutrition/training?

Hard to help someone when they aren't present and engaged.

 

[dl71]

Perhaps as an alternative, get clued in to the above and see provider about proper blood work as a baseline.

Your questions confuse me? Is he looking to do things methodically this time or just throw more AAS at the wall again?

Nutrition/training?

My questions are confusing how? Of course he wants to do things more methodically as opposed to him just listening to the gym bros and running with it. I’m simply trying to learn and understand shit myself bc naturally I worry and want to be sure he’s being safe.

Nutrition is pretty consistent year round despite the recent setbacks. He’s getting back into training.

 

[readalot]

Of course he wants to do things more methodically as opposed to him just listening to the gym bros and running with it. I’m simply trying to learn and understand shit myself bc naturally I worry and want to be sure he’s being safe.

Blood work:
TT
SHBG
LH
CBC
CMP
TSH
FT4
FT3

At a minimum.

From there he can go on clinically indicated TRT if blood work shows issue or consider DIY "HRT" if he has no hormonal deficiencies.

You reply confused me since you said you already had a source.

70 to 125 mg/week Test ester is reasonable starting TRT dose. You will see many, including myself, abuse Test with weekly doses 200 mg/week and higher. It's pretty much wide open now what "TRT" is. TRT is another matter.

 

[dl71]

Blood work:
TT
SHBG
LH
CBC
CMP
TSH
FT4
FT3

At a minimum.

From there he can go on clinically indicated TRT if blood work shows issue or consider DIY "HRT" if he has no hormonal deficiencies.

You reply confused me since you said you already had a source.

70 to 125 mg/week Test ester is reasonable starting TRT dose. You will see many, including myself, abuse Test with weekly doses 200 mg/week and higher. It's pretty much wide open now what "TRT" is. TRT is another matter.

Thank you! I just meant that we had already done some research and found a source, or at least a few to choose from that we felt seemed like a good fit to use when he’s ready to order. He was running a pretty high dose before too ‍

 

[readalot]

already done some research and found a source

How did you both decide on a source? If I may ask?

 

[Mongo966]

I just told my wife that some dude is making his wife go online to find steroids for him. She didn't laugh. LOL

 

[readalot]

I just told my wife that some dude is making his wife go online to find steroids for him. She didn't laugh. LOL

Totally foreign concept for me as well, haha.

 

[dl71]

How did you both decide on a source? If I may ask?

I’ve been reading through the underground steroids forum as much as possible, looking over the vendors testing history, etc and just paying attention to what others are saying about each vendor then taking that info and looking through subreddits to see what else I could find.

 

[readalot]

I’ve been reading through the underground steroids forum as much as possible, looking over the vendors testing history, etc and just paying attention to what others are saying about each vendor then taking that info and looking through subreddits to see what else I could find.

Nice!

 

[dl71]

I just told my wife that some dude is making his wife go online to find steroids for him. She didn't laugh. LOL

He didn’t *make* me lol he’s gonna get it with or without my help so I’d rather be involved and make sure he’s doing it safely. I prefer him to be alive lol and I’m just better at doing the leg work when it comes to reading through all this shit. He does not have the patience lol

 

[aliikamz]

listen, I’m a chick (like an actual female, not a chick a with a dick- just thought I’d clarify) and I’m SO overwhelmed with information so please just bear with me. I joined Meso in an attempt to educate myself and help the hubby find a reliable source. He’s ran stuff like test e, tren e, anadrol, etc before so he’s not new to it but he’s always just used a local guy that got it from who fucking knows where (he knew where it was coming from but I didn’t lol) or he’s ordered from dragon pharma before. Anyways, when I fell into the grey peptides rabbit hole, I was like why tf have we not been doing this all along?? But he’s just not the kinda guy to dive into the forums and shit so I’m just doing it for him lol so now that the explanation is out of the way, here’s what I would like some input on. His request was to find the tren e, test e, anadrol and dbol. Pretty sure this is mostly what he’s done in the past and had good results. Is this good or do any of the vets here have a better recommendation? As far as his stats, he’s 6’2 and around 220-230 ish. He’s got an insane metabolism and doesn’t seem to gain much fat if that makes sense? Like, he’s just always been more lean even when he’s not running anything or lifting. he’s not been on a cycle in a while and hasn’t lifted in months. We had a lot of big life changes over the past year and we both dropped off pretty hard and I think not being on any sort of test brought on some depression for him which just made it that much worse. so needless to say I’m trying to help him out and get him motivated again but also kinda worried for him to dive into too much right off the bat. Not that I think he doesn’t know what he’s doing, it just makes me feel more at ease to hear others input.

I'm not an expert or veteran when it comes to AAS, it would probably benefit him more to maybe invest his own time into diving into forums like these, increasing his own knowledge opposed to getting it 2nd hand from you. While your intentions as his wife may be pure and good, at the end of the day, he will know his body better than anyone and only he will be able to relate,utilise and make the needed adjustments after he reads through others tips and experiences