Cycle question for newbie

[Rams]

Don’t know if my gear is bunk or not.

I have done one pin on both sides of my glutes so far and I am a bit concerned.

The first shot gave me pretty painful pip and inflammation that started to go down and get better after 4 days but the second one on my left glute is worrying. Less than 24 hours I started to notice that there was a large knot in my glute that looked a bit red and was also a bit warm. But I don’t know whether it is an abscess or if it’s just because I wasn’t injecting correctly on the second pin. The needle that I used was a 1” 25 guage needle, which I know now is too short for glute injections, and the shot seemed to go fine besides a few drops of blood coming out after the injection. I’m just wondering if I could get your guy’s opinion on what I should do at this point because I think it could be one of many things:
1.an abscess
2. A sterile abscess
3. Virgin muscle reacting to the foreign oil
4. Oil getting trapped above the muscle due to a shallow injection
5. Injecting into a vein
6. Just me being a bitch about it and it just being a normal reaction for a first time AAS user

I have felt no other symptoms besides the slight red ish color at the injection site where the lump is and soreness; but the lump isn’t raised, I have yet to get a fever, the pain is going down slightly and the size of the lump has not changed in the past day or two.

 

[Oldman.]

With a squat and deadlift like yours why use the glute? Your quads must be good size and give lots of room to work, and there is no doubt you can reach things and see what you are doing . It’s all personal prefrence but I have only used my quads for this cycle and only one bad injection in 16 weeks.

Most pip like this is operator error. Meaning you messed up the injection. Either with to short a needle or location or you moved the needle around to much or you left some air in the system, did not clean the area enough..... There is a difference between post injection soreness which is normal, and a red angry knot forming.

What is your injection procedure? Do you heat the vial? What needles are you using? Proper needle size is 25x1” for the quad, 23x1.5” for glute, 25x5/8” lateral thigh and delt.

Seriously find a video on YouTube on injecting in the thigh and quad. Toallly straighten the leg to relax it. Go to YouTube university for a day and you will be an expert. The nice about YouTube is actual doctors demonstrate injecting for trt.

 

[Rams]

Thanks for the reply oldman. I bet what I did was either not sanitize the site thoroughly or used a needle that was too small. I’m afraid it’s becoming a angry red knot because i can literally hold onto it like I got an ass implant in the wrong spot. It’s pretty stiff but not as painful as I think an abscess would be. I have yet to get a fever or see it grow anymore since it appeared but the size, slight redness and heat are just making me paranoid.

I did not heat up the oil which I will definitely do next time. I used a 1” 25g needle which was also really dumb of me but that’s the only length I had at the time. I’ll also start doing quad injections now because I do think a lot of the problem was just injection error ( too shaky, not being able to see well at what I’m doing, etc..).

 

[Oldman.]

Hope your next pin goes better. Make sure to watch a few YouTube videos they help lots!

 

[PIZZABOY]

Thanks for the reply oldman. I bet what I did was either not sanitize the site thoroughly or used a needle that was too small. I’m afraid it’s becoming a angry red knot because i can literally hold onto it like I got an ass implant in the wrong spot. It’s pretty stiff but not as painful as I think an abscess would be. I have yet to get a fever or see it grow anymore since it appeared but the size, slight redness and heat are just making me paranoid.

I did not heat up the oil which I will definitely do next time. I used a 1” 25g needle which was also really dumb of me but that’s the only length I had at the time. I’ll also start doing quad injections now because I do think a lot of the problem was just injection error ( too shaky, not being able to see well at what I’m doing, etc..).

Who's gear you running? If i may ask, just wondering the concentration. Are we talking 250mg/ml? And your doing 1 cc twice a week, like on sun, and thurs?

 

[Hawkins]

It's not an abscess if it formed less than 24 hours after the injection. Likely inflammation from the depot of oil. Or, poor technique. Likely both...

Few weeks back @Wunderpus started a thread on reducing PIP. Read it.

 

[Rams]

Who's gear you running? If i may ask, just wondering the concentration. Are we talking 250mg/ml? And your doing 1 cc twice a week, like on sun, and thurs?

I’m taking ZPHC test e 250 twice a week on Sunday and Thursday

 

[Rams]

Thanks for the response Hawkins. I’ll check it out

 

[Rams]

The lump has not decreased in size at all today but it hasn’t gotten any worse, thinking about scheduling an appointment with the doc on Monday just to see if it needs to be drained and also to get some antibiotics. I still don’t know if it’s an abscess or not but it’s just annoying. How many days should I keep an eye on it before I get it checked out?

 

[Oldman.]

I would wait it out. It will take at least a week to go away completely.

 

[Rams]

Will do, it is getting a bit better also!

 

[Oldman.]

Once you can rub the area without serious pain do so in a warm shower. Gently at first. Then get more aggressive as it starts to loosen up, also stretch lightly.
This has helped me greatly on the few bad injections I have had this cycle that formed a knot. I have had two now.
Avoid any serious lifting on that muscle group until it loosens up to full range of motion. In this state it won’t do any good to work that area.

 

[FlatlandLifter]

I’d say it’s more likely your body having an adverse effect to the type of oil used or amount of alcohol used in it.
Unless you are above 15% body fat I think 1” is more than long enough to pin glutes, I don’t have a problem with it and I’m by no means at my leanest.
If you hit a vein you’d know it by the time you were in it as you injected or as you pulled the needle out and the oil seeped by through the hole. You’d get shortness of breath and the feeling to cough.
It’s more than likely as you said, virgin muscle combined with it being your first cycle. If it was an abscess the redness and heat would spread, I had the same fear my first cycle from the pip.

 

[Thmz]

A few of my internetfriends have also had problems with ZPCH Test-E. Swelling, redness, hotspots and even fever. It's a fairly new UG around here and i know at least four cases of this happening. Don't know what is going on with it.

 

[RealET]

Did you check your gear with a flashlight?

If it happens more than once, sounds like it’s dirty gear. Bad technique won’t consistently give you that problem. The odds are much lower.

1” is fine for glutes. I prefer VG, goes in fucking smooth each time not even a drop of blood.

 

[Rams]

Thanks for all of the replies you guys. You all were right, just my body adversely reacting to the foreign supstance that I injected and the knot has gone down a good deal and is becoming a lot less painful after hearing the area up with a heat pad and massaging.

 

[Rams]

Hope your next pin goes better. Make sure to watch a few YouTube videos they help lots!

Did a quad injection and had no swelling but some serious pip. But it’s a lot more bareable than the glute shots so far!

 

[Rams]

Did you check your gear with a flashlight?

If it happens more than once, sounds like it’s dirty gear. Bad technique won’t consistently give you that problem. The odds are much lower.

1” is fine for glutes. I prefer VG, goes in fucking smooth each time not even a drop of blood.

Im not sure on how to check it with a flash light. Is it meant to make biocontaminates appear better under the light?

 

[Rams]

A few of my internetfriends have also had problems with ZPCH Test-E. Swelling, redness, hotspots and even fever. It's a fairly new UG around here and i know at least four cases of this happening. Don't know what is going on with it.

I’ve heard on other threads that it is a bit overdosed and that the pip is pretty gnarly and I can totally vouch for that. I’m on the fence about trying another sources test E just because I wouldn’t want to waste the gear I have.

 

[Oldman.]

Glad you are getting things sorted out.