Cycle Recommendation / Hematocrit

[BumpassHell]

I'm actually angry at myself for spoon feeding you after your ridiculously dense comment, despite me sincerely trying to contribute to the discussion and pointing you towards an entire discussion on it. You're also a Google search away from the answer.

That said - Look at the data for yourself. Placebo -> +.5% hematocrit, treatment -> -1.1%, a 1.6% drop that was consistent across the entire population, and a 1.8% difference in red blood cells. Extrapolated from unhealthy older people (these groups) to folks on gear, that could be a larger 2-4% change.

Also, fuck you for that comment.

Thank you. So there's one study that suggests: "Small changes in hematocrit and erythrocyte levels were observed during the study; these changes were to a similar degree as seen with hemoglobin, with a mean change from baseline at week 4 of –1.1% (bempedoic acid) vs 0.5% (placebo) in hematocrit levels and –1.8% (bempedoic acid) vs –0.01% (placebo) in erythrocytes".

Is there any other data or is that the only study?

 

[Sicsemptyran]

I have it on deck to add to my pita and Zetia. Very interested to see if I get this effect as well.

Do report back! Would love to hear how it works for you.

 

[Sicsemptyran]

Thank you. So there's one study that suggests: "Small changes in hematocrit and erythrocyte levels were observed during the study; these changes were to a similar degree as seen with hemoglobin, with a mean change from baseline at week 4 of –1.1% (bempedoic acid) vs 0.5% (placebo) in hematocrit levels and –1.8% (bempedoic acid) vs –0.01% (placebo) in erythrocytes".

Is there any other data or is that the only study?

Going to spoon feed one last time and then will cease responding to you. I enjoyed your new member introduction and it’s sorry to see that after such a thorough and well written introduction, you’re choosing to be a prick for little reason.

That “one study” you’re looking at is a pooled analysis of 4 separate clinical trials, encompassing 3621 patients.

I’m not suggesting anything as fact, I’m not paid to convince you. I’m presenting something I noticed that seems more clearly evident and studied with data than many of the things you or I have injected, including every AAS besides Test, and most peptides (BPC/TB/GHK/etc). If that’s not enough evidence for you, it’s hilarious that you have used all of those per your new member introduction.

 

[BumpassHell]

Going to spoon feed one last time and then will cease responding to you. I enjoyed your new member introduction and it’s sorry to see that after such a thorough and well written introduction, you’re choosing to be a prick for little reason.

That “one study” you’re looking at is a pooled analysis of 4 separate clinical trials, encompassing 3621 patients.

I’m not suggesting anything as fact, I’m not paid to convince you. I’m presenting something I noticed that seems more clearly evident and studied with data than many of the things you or I have injected, including every AAS besides Test, and most peptides (BPC/TB/GHK/etc). If that’s not enough evidence for you, it’s hilarious that you have used all of those per your new member introduction.

I think that folks should be able to present the data that informs their assertions, or otherwise explain why they feel the way they do. If you feel differently, that's fine. I'm genuinely curious about your claims. You seem pretty sensitive about me asking. That's not a "me" problem; that's a "you" problem. I don't really care, so please carry on with whatever you have going on and don't feel the need to respond to me.

 

[trtbuilder]

Going to spoon feed one last time and then will cease responding to you. I enjoyed your new member introduction and it’s sorry to see that after such a thorough and well written introduction, you’re choosing to be a prick for little reason.

That “one study” you’re looking at is a pooled analysis of 4 separate clinical trials, encompassing 3621 patients.

I’m not suggesting anything as fact, I’m not paid to convince you. I’m presenting something I noticed that seems more clearly evident and studied with data than many of the things you or I have injected, including every AAS besides Test, and most peptides (BPC/TB/GHK/etc). If that’s not enough evidence for you, it’s hilarious that you have used all of those per your new member introduction.

He asked a nice enough question and you're being a condescending douchebag. Nobody respects people who act like you.

Congrats on your life changing observation though. Hopefully your mommy put a gold star on the fridge in recognition.

 

[Sicsemptyran]

He asked a nice enough question and you're being a condescending douchebag. Nobody respects people who act like you.

“So there’s no data to back your claim?” In response to linking to an entire discussion about it talking about the clinical trial data is a disingenuous question. Or just very poor communication and an internet misunderstanding. If it’s the latter, then sorry to him for coming on hot.

Either way, most normal people will read that as a “so you’re just making shit up?”, which given the entire write up and long discussion I linked going into the clinical trial data with much back & forth from many individuals, yes, would of course rub me the wrong way.

 

[trtbuilder]

“So there’s no data to back your claim?” In response to linking to an entire discussion about it talking about the clinical trial data is a disingenuous question. Or just very poor communication and an internet misunderstanding. If it’s the latter, then sorry to him for coming on hot.

Either way, most normal people will read that as a “so you’re just making shit up?”, which given the entire write up and long discussion I linked going into the clinical trial data with much back & forth from many individuals, yes, would of course rub me the wrong way.

Yeah, maybe get your roid rage in check. You're not winning anyone over.