Cycle with Oxandrolone: how many weeks

[mikelaurey84]

Hi to all,

I'm running my first cycle with Oxandrolone (I also inject 250mg testo E/week).
I started with 20mg of oxandrolone per day and after 25 days I raised it to 40 mg and I finally started to see some small results.
I'm at the moment at my thirty-fifth day and I had my blood tests and my liver is still OK (I'm also taking 500 mg od TUDCA per day).

I've read that usually a cycle with oxandrolone should last for no longer than 8 weeks so only 3 other weeks are left for my cycle.
Do you think I can continue it for some additional weeks since my liver is still OK, or is it too dangerous?
For how long should I stop it before starting another cycle?

Thank you!

 

[Canknucklehead]

Get blood work at 8 weeks and see if you are still good.

 

[Nilatac]

I don't know why you choose to use only 250mg test. It's more than what your body produces that's true but you give yourself shutdown for nothing.
Around 150-200mg is a trt dose for guys that need that.(medical reasons). And you take 250 mg to cycle....

 

[Rido]

I am going to throw numbers out of what I THINK would be safe.(with no blood work)
25mg ED for 12 weeks
50mg ED for 8 weeks
100mg ED for 6 weeks.

I would be very interested to think about cruising on 25mg of Var ED. especially for a mild cut(to 11-12%)

I don't know why you choose to use only 250mg test. It's more than what your body produces that's true but you give yourself shutdown for nothing.
Around 150-200mg is a trt dose for guys that need that.(medical reasons). And you take 250 mg to cycle....

I would have to second this.

I guess 250mg to slowly ramp it up to see where you are comfortable isnt a horrible idea... but...

300mg+ for a first cycle would be more ideal.

if you are moving from TRT you could increase the dose or add a mild anabolic like Anavar or Mast to help. my rationale is the experience with testosterone.
400-500mg of test
300mg test+200 mast
300mg+25-50mg anavar ED.


And then 2nd cycle you throw on another compound, or increase the dosage of test

 

[jJjburton]

Its fine, double check bloods you cholesterol must be bad?

 

[Nilatac]

I and many other took Accutane for many months and that thing is more liver toxic than any oral steroids I have taken.
You will be ok if you take for more than 8 weeks,many more...

You can run orals for periods of time much longer than you read on forums. That 6 weeks orals is a myth that must to die
I took orals up to 6 months and besides a high elevated liver values I was ok.
In a comparison when I took Accutane after 3 months my liver hurt. I know that aren't pain receptors in liver but that area was hurting. That thing is bad for you but yet hundreds of thousands run every year and liver survive that drug.

 

[Live_Evil]

I and many other took Accutane for many months and that thing is more liver toxic than any oral steroids I have taken.

Depends on the dosages involved and the length of the cycle.

You will be ok if you take for more than 8 weeks,many more...

Again, depends on the dosages involved and the cycle length.

You can run orals for periods of time much longer than you read on forums. That 6 weeks orals is a myth that must to die

Jesus, do I really need to repeat myself at this point? 20mg of anavar is a clinical dose. I wouldn't be surprised if someone could run it for a huge amount of time, at that dose. 200mg daily? I wouldn't even run that for 6 weeks, nevermind "much longer".

I took orals up to 6 months and besides a high elevated liver values I was ok.

Lol, so despite the conclusive evidence that you were damaging your liver, you still thought you were okay?

The goal is to cycle these drugs in order to be healthy, not to push the envelope to the point that you're nearly dead at the end of every cycle. You do realize it's entirely possible to run a cycle and have all of your health markers inside the reference range, right?

When your liver values are fucked, that's a bad sign, not a good one.

 

[Nilatac]

Depends on the dosages involved and the length of the cycle.


Again, depends on the dosages involved and the cycle length.


Jesus, do I really need to repeat myself at this point? 20mg of anavar is a clinical dose. I wouldn't be surprised if someone could run it for a huge amount of time, at that dose. 200mg daily? I wouldn't even run that for 6 weeks, nevermind "much longer".


Lol, so despite the conclusive evidence that you were damaging your liver, you still thought you were okay?

The goal is to cycle these drugs in order to be healthy, not to push the envelope to the point that you're nearly dead at the end of every cycle. You do realize it's entirely possible to run a cycle and have all of your health markers inside the reference range, right?

When your liver values are fucked, that's a bad sign, not a good one.

Yes dose depending. But from real life applications you can run orals for more than 6 weeks. 6 weeks is a bro science that catch
Accutane dose 0,5mg 1 mg/ kg. That put your liver to stress more than a 10 weeks oral and that thing is run for more than 10 weeks.
No one in this thread was talking 200mg of anavar daily for 6 months. You throw that number to make valid your point. You could now put a example of 50 mg halo for 6 months to get valid your point

Liver is much more resilient and orals steroids are less liver toxic that what is believed. You will not be on the dead bed running orals 10-12 weeks at a dose that is appropriate for you.
If anyone choose health stop using steroids and go on a trt(real one) if you need one and do some light-medium training with cardio 3 times a week and eat your vegetables. Steroids aren't healthy,bodybuilding isn't healthy, having a elevated BMI isn't healthy

If you took medical reference for anavar took drol medical use for reference and see that maybe you are wrong

Talking from experience has a more valid point that put an example that wasn't in this discussion to make valid your point.

Yes you can run orals for more than 6 weeks and yes oral steroids aren't liver shredding and yes liver values comes back in range after you stop. That's why you cycle indeed to give your body a break and get yourself back to normal
Take a dose and choose a duration that is appropriate for you

 

[Deezznutzz]

Trt clinics will prescribe 50 mg a day for 8 weeks. Then they make you get labs and check your cholesterol and liver values. If they are in Spec you can keep going if they're out of spec they make you take a break. They also recommend taking 1,000 to 1,200 mg of NAC.

 

[mikelaurey84]

I don't know why you choose to use only 250mg test. It's more than what your body produces that's true but you give yourself shutdown for nothing.
Around 150-200mg is a trt dose for guys that need that.(medical reasons). And you take 250 mg to cycle....

It is because I hate injections, they are painful and so I want to limit them at one injection per week. Moreover, this is not my first cycle and I verified that 250 mg of test are enough for my body to achieve what I'm looking for. Probably, I will try to increase the dose to 350mg during next cycle and see what happens.

 

[mikelaurey84]

Its fine, double check bloods you cholesterol must be bad?

For the moment, liver and cholesterol are fine.
I take TUDCA, NAC and Omega 3.
I always take Omega 3 even when I'm not using roids.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

It is because I hate injections, they are painful and so I want to limit them at one injection per week. Moreover, this is not my first cycle and I verified that 250 mg of test are enough for my body to achieve what I'm looking for. Probably, I will try to increase the dose to 350mg during next cycle and see what happens.

Pinning is "painful"? I know girls that pin every day. Get over it. Endure the pain. Pin daily because it mimics your bodies natural release of androgens.

 

[Nilatac]

It is because I hate injections, they are painful and so I want to limit them at one injection per week. Moreover, this is not my first cycle and I verified that 250 mg of test are enough for my body to achieve what I'm looking for. Probably, I will try to increase the dose to 350mg during next cycle and see what happens.

Say no more. That alone is enough for me to gage who I am speaking to

 

[Live_Evil]

It is because I hate injections, they are painful and so I want to limit them at one injection per week. Moreover, this is not my first cycle and I verified that 250 mg of test are enough for my body to achieve what I'm looking for. Probably, I will try to increase the dose to 350mg during next cycle and see what happens.

Lol, I'm injecting 3 times a day, 2 of them being GHK-cu, quite possibly the most painful injection there is, right in the patellar tendon.

 

[Rido]

I'm a little tempted to cruise on 20mg of var ED and grab blood work to see how it is

 

[mikelaurey84]

Pinning is "painful"? I know girls that pin every day. Get over it. Endure the pain. Pin daily because it mimics your bodies natural release of androgens.

The pinning is not painful, the problem is that after few hours, the area where I inject starts to hurt and sometimes I also have problems to move for at least two days so this is a problem during the workout. This happens all the time and it doesn't change if I inject by myself, by a nurse, by a doctor or by a friend. So it is not related to the inection process, probably, it is related to my body reaction to the oil.
I buy the testosterone legally, so there is no contamination.

By the way, the main topic was the anavar, and not the testosterone

 

[TrenTrenTren]

The pinning is not painful, the problem is that after few hours, the area where I inject starts to hurt and sometimes I also have problems to move for at least two days so this is a problem during the workout. This happens all the time and it doesn't change if I inject by myself, by a nurse, by a doctor or by a friend. So it is not related to the inection process, probably, it is related to my body reaction to the oil.
I buy the testosterone legally, so there is no contamination.

By the way, the main topic was the anavar, and not the testosterone

So then, why don't you buy your testosterone here illegally, with a different carrier oil, and pin every day?

 

[mikelaurey84]

So then, why don't you buy your testosterone here illegally, with a different carrier oil, and pin every day?

Because I tried to do that (Deus) and I ended up with fever and skin rush. So I decided to go back with legal testosterone.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Because I tried to do that (Deus) and I ended up with fever and skin rush. So I decided to go back with legal testosterone.

Hmm. What carrier oil does Deus use?

Edit: Was it Test E?

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Whether it's "legal" or "illegal", it should be just Testosterone and a carrier oil. A law from the government doesn't make one test give you a rash and the other not give you a rash.