Cyp + dnp = viscious bloat

[MARSOC]

dnp is just stripping the lbs off my ass and was baffled how i still had the worst moonface ive ever seen. Im 20lbs lighter than when i stopped dieting and my face looked way better than it does now.

I have 10ml of test left......i relly cant be bloated 4 weeks from now.......does test bloat just leave once the cycle is up?

Im thinking about doing one of two things..

a) stop cycle now and start pct in 2 weeks

b) shoot 1ml of test every day for 10 days, start pct 2weeks later


does more test=more bloat? I could stop cycle now but the thing is I will do one more dnp run and do not want to be shutdown while doing this. If i shoot an ml a day for 10 days i will technically be on test during my whole dnp cycle....and then i have a week window to see major bloat come off.

what to do?

 

[MARSOC]

wish i could get some aromasin or sumthing......this moonface is the fukin devil.

i also forgot how ppl usually drop 10 lbs or so after thier cycle...which is mostly water and bloat....does it give a leaner looking effect? If this is so i should be pretty yolked during pct.

 

[Sensational]

wish i could get some aromasin or sumthing......this moonface is the fukin devil.

i also forgot how ppl usually drop 10 lbs or so after thier cycle...which is mostly water and bloat....does it give a leaner looking effect? If this is so i should be pretty yolked during pct.

Less water= leaner look. Don't do the 1 cc ED thing. Save the test and start PCT in a couple of weeks.

 

[MARSOC]

ya thats what im thinkin too.

that means im going to need to transfer this test into a shampoo bottle or sumthing, and fly overseas with it but that shouldnt pose much of a problem.

 

[MARSOC]

a week of dnp during pct shudnt pose much of a problem should it?

ill be producing the same amount of test as a girlscout, but i will be in a HUGE calorie deficit. Its only one week so i dont see how i could lose too much size/strength.....i also will not be working out for about a month after cycle as i am traveling and shit....that kinda sux, but im sure my body could use the break to recover from the past several months......if i have to i can always bang out some upright rows with some randon heavy set child that i come across on the street, maybe even some military presses.

o well theres always cycle number two.....getting shredded is the objective this go round so i guess its all part of the learning process.

 

[pincrusher]

dont know how much research you did on DNP but any good article on it will state that you will bloat up while using it even though you are losing lots of weight. it will go away not long after you stop the DNP and it clears your body (about 3 days after you take the last dosage)
after reading your posts here it doesnt sound like you put much planning into this cycle of cyp/DNP
why start any cycle without proper anti estrogens available to help prevent bloating, gyno etc?

 

[MARSOC]

i am very well aware of all of that.....i know more about dnp than anything else....i also have more experience with it than anything else.


dnp bloat is gone, but this moonface is definatley from the test. I also dont like to add extra compounds to a cycle that are really uneeded.....bloat will go away on its own during pct, id rather not put the extra stress on my body unless of course i see gyno starting to manifest itself.

in other words, i dont add them unless i NEED them......i guess you could say moonface is enough of a reason to add an AI but its not NEEDED. I figure i saved money by dealing with bloat for a little longer than usual. DNP for sure enhanced this smoothing effect, but once i stopped i filled out and dropped a good bit of water....its a night and day difference. But that doesnt take away from all the estrogen in me flooding me with this thin layer of water.

I am going to go ahead and start pct next wed. and test bloat should come down within the week. Im guessing i have at a minimum and inch to lose off the waist from water alone.

well see

 

[MARSOC]

forgot to add, i did order an AI before the cycle, just incase bloat got bad.....but i got ripped by a chem company.

 

[bigbench]

Using an AI to control estrogen is a SMART thing. By saying you dont use them unless you need them is the right direction, but bloating means you NEED them. Too high of estrogen can have serious reprocussions and it means estrogen is too high. Use the AI and rid the extra water. Also, its best to control estrogen levels before starting PCT so that recovery is easier as well as the "crash" is better avoided. You wont need to stop your cycle, but you need to start adex or aromasin

 

[MARSOC]

fair enough, i cannot get any at this point in time, that is the only problem.....if i could i would have done it a long time ago.

i got lots of nolva, i guess i can start running that right now at 10 mg /day untill pct where ill use the regular dosing protocols.