Daily or EOD test Cyp injections?????

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

Looking forward to those blood test on Cyp ed injections

 

[Jq88]

Me too man.

A little adjustment period this first week as my body adapts to the new protocol...

But I am very optimistic.

Daily injections have shown to not only provide a more consistent serum level but that even a lower weekly dosage is needed to reach optimal levels versus once or twice weekly not withstanding the reduction in aroamatase synthesis.

 

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

Well that's what Steroidgraph says to that.

 

[Jq88]

Right on.

Just hoping it can keep Estrogen down.

May still need a little Adex.

 

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

I doubt that you will need adex. Do you need it on your cruise/trt?

I have some aromasin at some occasions bc of the estrogen from hcg but without that don't really need an ai.

 

[Jq88]

I don't need it on a cruise but my levels dont get too high.

But I've never tried daily.

I'm low shbg.

The waiting game is the toughest part.

Sometimes I dose Adex by feel and that's A recipe for disaster from my experience.

 

[Jq88]

That's why I'm trying daily to get my levels up there without the need for an AI.

 

[Jq88]

sorry just noticed the thread.... after tons and tons of experiments over the years, I am doing every day cyp injections, it is just better in my experience

at the moment I do 25mg per day every day, usually with some tren and occasionally masteron or proviron in varying doses, but the 25mg of test cypionate every day is the base I try not to vary from, if I go too high in the test there is more drawbacks than benefits, 25mg seems to be the sweet spot.... I never touch any AI anymore, not good for you, better to adjust test to where you don't need an AI imho

Forever young where does this put your T and E levels?

 

[Michael Scally MD]

E6H [QID]

 

[Docd187123]

E6H [QID]

E20M is even better!

 

[Jq88]

I sense some sarcasm... Dr. Scally you must be a big Anastrozole fan, uh?

 

[Docd187123]

I sense some sarcasm... Dr. Scally you must be a big Anastrozole fan, uh?

Does that mean you're a big Turemo and B-D fan?

Yes of course it's sarcasm bc there comes a point where it's just taken too far. Not to mention the fact it's perfectly possible to do less frequent injections and NOT use an AI....logic, who needs it?

 

[Jq88]

I can't get my T levels up without a larger dose and the larger doses cause a spike in estrogen.

If I took 200mg/wk in one shot I would blow up like a balloon lose my erections and be irritable.

 

[Jq88]

Plus I don't mind injecting with a slin pin takes less than one minute and I actually find it enjoyable.

 

[Jq88]

So what's your Reccommendation doc?

Live with mid range T levels and no AI or move to the upper range and use an AI???

 

[Docd187123]

I can't get my T levels up without a larger dose and the larger doses cause a spike in estrogen.

If I took 200mg/wk in one shot I would blow up like a balloon lose my erections and be irritable.

So what's your Reccommendation doc?

Live with mid range T levels and no AI or move to the upper range and use an AI???

Those two choices aren't collectively exhaustive.....

What were your peak and trough levels at 200mg/wk with one injection?

What about levels at lower dosages?

 

[foreveryoung]

i will never do AI again, with my every day injections i have no problems at all. ... when i took the same weekly dose in once per week injection i have issues

i have done this 1000 times. .. i am completely convinced by my own experience that every day injections of cypionate are the best

 

[Jq88]

I don't know my peak.

My trough on 60mg twice a week with 250iu hcG twice a week was 512

My trough on 100/100 was 813

I was using anastrozole both times and my e2 levels were in the teens. My sexual function was good but I didn't feel great and my strength was down.

My SHBG is 16

I don't have any labs for the last six months because I have been dosing anasteozole by feel and it has been a roller coaster.

 

[Jq88]

i will never do AI again, with my every day injections i have no problems at all. ... when i took the same weekly dose in once per week injection i have issues

i have done this 1000 times. .. i am completely convinced by my own experience that every day injections of cypionate are the best

Prop might even be better but I'd love to be where you are at right now.

Are you low shbg?

Where does 25mg daily put your T and your E?

 

[foreveryoung]

Where does 25mg daily put your T and your E?

i don't do blood tests, ive been doing this for decades, what matters is how i feel and perform, chasing numbers on a report are pointless