Dbol for cutting?

[BuckEighty]

A buddy of mine is planning on running test, var, winny and dbol to finish off his cut. I asked him if he was worried about the dbol bloating him up, but he said he knows what he's doing. I believe he's been cycling on and off for almost 10 years but I'm not sure exactly how many cycles he's run total.

Have any of you guys run dbol while cutting. and what were your results?

 

[TheBeat]

A buddy of mine is planning on running test, var, winny and dbol to finish off his cut. I asked him if he was worried about the dbol bloating him up, but he said he knows what he's doing. I believe he's been cycling on and off for almost 10 years but I'm not sure exactly how many cycles he's run total.

Have any of you guys run dbol while cutting. and what were your results?

I use to run it for a cut before a cruise. Seems there's always a little bloat Eben with diet tight (unlike drol where being lean with a super tight diet can cause no bloating) but it helps with fat loss and is a great anti-cortisteriod compound that always left me with great results after discontinued - after the bloat comes off, a little extra leaner and a little extra mass. I had a friend who used it for cutting and looked great doing so but he wasn't a thin skinned guy like me and looked lean(ish) at higher body fat

 

[TheBeat]

Basically it works great if your peak is after your cycle, but not for peaking or looking as lean as possible during the cycle.

 

[Dr JIM]

A buddy of mine is planning on running test, var, winny and dbol to finish off his cut. I asked him if he was worried about the dbol bloating him up, but he said he knows what he's doing. I believe he's been cycling on and off for almost 10 years but I'm not sure exactly how many cycles he's run total.

Have any of you guys run dbol while cutting. and what were your results?

That means chances are he has no F....ing idea what he is doing but WANTS you to believe otherwise!

Invite him onto Meso and we shall see bc I can just about promise you he's a classic
bro PARROT!

In all seriousness the most reliable evidence someone "knows what they are doing",
they are actively involved in BB as a competitive sport.

Yep it's a high standard bc I know SOME on Meso do not compete but they darn sure know what's up and how to run AAS, diet and exercise ALL for muscular gains.

However absent a pic most noobs who post on this forum are FOS wannabes who lack the ambition, dedication and fund of knowledge to even consider AAS IME

 

[CdnGuy]

Either one is hard on the old liver. Personally would opt for dbol start var to finish.

Anavar at the end?

 

[Dr JIM]

An cutting cycle involves sooooo much more than changing up AAS and ANY PRO BB will tell you exactly that. But somehow broism modified the meaning into something much simpler that everyone could partake in. Yea let's tell guys they can just change anabolic agents and burn fat.

Nope about the best one can do is modify the degree of fluid retention by running an AAS that does NOT aromatize, and Dbol is probably one of the WORST agents to use for this purpose.

 

[CdnGuy]

An cutting cycle involves sooooo much more than changing up AAS and ANY PRO BB will tell you exactly that. But somehow broism modified the meaning into something much simpler that everyone could partake in. Yea let's tell guys they can just change anabolic agents and burn fat.

Nope about the best one can do is modify the degree of fluid retention by running an AAS that does NOT aromatize, and Dbol is probably one of the WORST agents to use for this purpose.

Lol New members wonder why you're generally a grumpy(but wise) bastard. When I was searching that link I just read one of your old posts from years ago. Basically reapting what you're saying now lol I'm guessing if the search button was used more often. We "might" have seen a happier Dr Jim over the years .

 

[Dr JIM]

And you would be ABSOLUTELY correct! Have you any idea the number of times Iv'e posted about "swollen NIPS", lol!

And a year later the same noob reappears asking the same question, using slightly different verbiage, wondering why AI's or SERMs aren't "helping". OR in this case the difference bt a "bloat and cutting cycle" knowing from a physiologic perspective there is NO SUCH THING, but rather a variation in the side effects of certain AAS that is being taken advantage of.

Those who believe otherwise I will challenge them to post the evidence certain AAS work thru a "different mechanism" than say for instance TT!

But I digress, bc although I SUSPECT such a variation in the MOA of certain AAS exists on a molecular level uncovering WHAT that maybe is one area I'm investigating,thru reading this taht or whatever else may apply.

And I'll tell you about the only thing iv'e found is already well known, and that is whether the AAS binds to the PG, or Androgen nuclear receptors. (Yea I know about Glucocorticoid receptor suppression also) WOW, NOT good enough to generate a "cutting vs a bloat" cycle lol!

But to your repost, I mean seriously when I think about it, for some it's in one ear and out the other and what makes that even worse many of these AAS runner/experimenters refuse to read or learn ANYTHING.

Yea most of my "grumpiness" comes from the realization there are many on this forum that just can't be helped, and yes that is VERY frustrating.

 

[CdnGuy]

Btw wasn't slagin you Doc. Would cause any level minded person the risk of being certified at some point! haha Credit to you sir you're still here and helping out.

 

[Dr JIM]

It's just so frustrating to know soooo many Meso noobs are using these drugs and will never reap their benefits bc they don't know WTF they are doing, and refuse to listen to the reason of others, many of whom know much more than they do!

But I trod on trying to help those who WILL listen and learn, and they are the reason I remain on this forum mate!

 

[Dr JIM]

Btw wasn't slagin you Doc. Would cause any level minded person the risk of being certified at some point! haha Credit to you sir you're still here and helping out.

I knew exactly where you were coming from mate.

Again Meso is much different to what I'm accustomed to, bc as a teacher of residents and med students, if those in training don't give me their "undivided attention" I am ENCOURAGED show them the door and believe it or not I'm one of the more "tolerant" attendings, lol

With that of course I'm fully aware of the difference bt Meso which is NOT some "bedside" (an absolutely asinine comparison made by those who's "feelings" got hurt) and a Level one trauma facility. So in that respect it can be a weclome change from my perspective but frustrating just the same, lol.

 

[Docd187123]

How would transient bloating affect cutting?

 

[Savagesteve]

A buddy of mine is planning on running test, var, winny and dbol to finish off his cut. I asked him if he was worried about the dbol bloating him up, but he said he knows what he's doing. I believe he's been cycling on and off for almost 10 years but I'm not sure exactly how many cycles he's run total.

Have any of you guys run dbol while cutting. and what were your results?

So this buddy is gonna run three orals at a time for a cut? Who gives a damn about the ole liver eh? I wouldn't listen to shit he had to say as there are far better compounds without trashing the liver.

 

[BuckEighty]

I have tried to tell him to get on the forums before, but to no avail. I guess we'll just have to see how it goes lol.

 

[Tmisatix]

If I was go run dbol I'd do it during a growth phase to reap the benefits of it where it's most appropiate

 

[AKphysique]

Low dose npp with the traditional cut stack (test p, tren a, mast p, winstrol OR anavar) would add some nice fullness to the physique. I personally wouldn't run the npp but I've seen good results on stage from other competitors

 

[Docd187123]

If I was go run dbol I'd do it during a growth phase to reap the benefits of it where it's most appropiate

Dbol can be used anytime. It doesn't have to be during bulking and there's no "most appropriate" time to use it

 

[BuckEighty]

Dbol can be used anytime. It doesn't have to be during bulking and there's no "most appropriate" time to use it

My friend's reasoning was that the dbol would keep him anabolic. I always thought the test + var would do that anyway, though. Idk much about winny, but it probably promotes anabolism too. The dbol just seems unnecessary given the other compounds he's using.

 

[Robfromga]

Low dose npp with the traditional cut stack (test p, tren a, mast p, winstrol OR anavar) would add some nice fullness to the physique. I personally wouldn't run the npp but I've seen good results on stage from other competitors

Why won't you run NPP?

 

[Tmisatix]

Dbol can be used anytime. It doesn't have to be during bulking and there's no "most appropriate" time to use it

I understand that a cut is determined by a caloric deficit, but Personally , I just feel like running dbol on a cut you wouldn't reap the full benefits? Idk , you're more experienced than I am so I probably shouldn't open my mouth about it. I guess it could depend on the individual too and how drastic their cut is.

What do you say about dbol on a cut? What about a recomp phase? Your experiences?