Cultivating_mass
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Anyone ever kickstarted a cycle with dbol and finished the same cycle with var? Bad idea? Am I being Too impatient? Obviously I am using test as my base
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MegaDaveMustang
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Depends on cycle length.
For a long ester Test cycle, say 16-20 weeks, kickstarting with an oral such as dbol the first 4 weeks can assist some depending on goals.
Then ideally running var or winny, as examples, the last 4 weeks can be a nice way to finish off prior to PCT, at least in a case where one isn't on TRT but yes I and I know of many others have administered orals that way.
I wouldn't recommend such a method in a short run. And different compounds provide different results for different folks obviously.
Personally I love dbol and winny but nowadays I only run an oral toward the end of a cycle and on another note am looking into running such compounds in their injectable versions only due to my reaction to the side effects of orals as I get older.
That said, in my younger days I had great results kickstarting with an oral. Of course alongside a dialed-in diet and proper training. As always there are variables.
For a long ester Test cycle, say 16-20 weeks, kickstarting with an oral such as dbol the first 4 weeks can assist some depending on goals.
Then ideally running var or winny, as examples, the last 4 weeks can be a nice way to finish off prior to PCT, at least in a case where one isn't on TRT but yes I and I know of many others have administered orals that way.
I wouldn't recommend such a method in a short run. And different compounds provide different results for different folks obviously.
Personally I love dbol and winny but nowadays I only run an oral toward the end of a cycle and on another note am looking into running such compounds in their injectable versions only due to my reaction to the side effects of orals as I get older.
That said, in my younger days I had great results kickstarting with an oral. Of course alongside a dialed-in diet and proper training. As always there are variables.
SteroidsBro
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Why not just make it anadrol or Superdrol at the end? Will the var even do much at all after having just taken dbol?
cochino
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I'm not sure why anybody would kickstart their orals in the first place. Yeah I know it's the hip thing to do to get those instant gains but to me it's stupid and asking for an injury and no gains at the end. I personally like to start orals, low dose around week 6-8 and run them through the end. You're gonna likely plateau around week 8 and the orals will give you some extra added strength then and now your tendons and joints are more acclimated by the steady gains you've had on your cycle. Just my .02
Test_Subject
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I like to do 100mg TNE PWO for the first few weeks. Yes, I'm impatient, but I don't like having twelve week cycles be more like eight or nine week cycles because of the wait at the beginning.
Orals at the end I definitely agree with. Nothing helps push a plateau like 100mg of anadrol.
cochino
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Yeah I can understand that. I wouldn't reccomend orals like dbol or drol for an inexperienced user. The strength gains at least for me are almost immediate and it can possibly cause an injury if one were to push too fast.
Because of the short half life of Orals and knowing weeks are required to optimize SKM anabolism, an oral kickstart probably offers little benefit compared to the use of a parenteral AAS from the outset.
That being said, as some have mentioned, ending a cycle with an oral ALONE can be beneficial (at least theoretically) as the time required for HTPA recovery may be shortened bc of their shorter half life.
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stone988
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In some cases Dbol is great for the first few weeks for fast glycogen muscle storage. Like after a sports season and you are depleted and wiped out. Var is great anytime lol
