Deadlifts are they worth it?

I plan on starting a log here in the next month or so. Once I get settled into my new place and have some time to do some real research.
Its kind of a mind f*ck though, starting back from the bottom and working my way back up. I know i have to get my form straight before anything (thats how I got my hernia). Its going to suck being in the gym with so little weight on the bar when im used to going big.
But thanks. Any help is always appreciated. Ill stop hijacking this thread now.
I'm signing up for that log j house!
 
If deadlift are
1. Hurting your lower back without previous injuries present
And/or
2. Working your back more than your legs
You are fucking doing it wrong. I think they are the safest compound lift. If I miss a bench I drop hundreds of lbs on my face. If I miss a squat I get crushed by hundreds of lbs. If I miss a dead I don't pick it up.

I just don't get the danger. Do it right and if it's too heavy don't fight it. Put it down.
 
If deadlifts challenge you and they are a movement you want to get good at, then yes. They are absolutely worth it. There is no point doing anything that isn't a challenge, what fun is that? If something kicks your ass then that should be the movement you want to get good at. Some days I absolutely hate front squatting - performance was in the trash today and it kicked my ass. It is one of the most satisfying things to work on for this reason.

They are not necessary for bodybuilding purposes though. You can adress your upper back development with vertical pulls like weighted pull-ups. Hamstrings and posterior chain and low back can be addressed with romanian deadlifts and weighted hyperextensions quite nicely.
 
I deadlift at least three times a month and up to six. At 47, I don't go over 315 for reps.

For me, without squats and deadlifts I might as well stop training. They're my two favorite exercises by far.


I hope you fellas are not believing I'm suggesting one should exclude compound exercises from your routine, HECK NO I still do squats and DLs but had to lower the weight bc of age related degenerative changes we ALL suffer in due course.

Just keep it in moderation as HM is doing and God forbid don't use ANALGESIC LIKE drugs, CS in particular, to enable lifting beyond your current training level OR chances are you WILL either get hooked on that shit OR injure yourself not willing to admit you have MAXED OUT for any number of reasons.

Finally as WCU mentioned for goodness sake vary the type of exercises in your routine unless you want lifting to become "routine" and that sucks!
 
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If deadlift are
1. Hurting your lower back without previous injuries present
And/or
2. Working your back more than your legs
You are fucking doing it wrong. I think they are the safest compound lift. If I miss a bench I drop hundreds of lbs on my face. If I miss a squat I get crushed by hundreds of lbs. If I miss a dead I don't pick it up.

I just don't get the danger. Do it right and if it's too heavy don't fight it. Put it down.
Really up to individual anatomy. Look at how Mark Rippetoe completely contradicts that statement. Now from experience I have learned both radicals "it's a back" or "it's a leg" dominated movement apply for a target population. Hence why we have "rounded back" lifters that set plenty of records (George Leeman recently for one). Now would round back lifting be recommended for a novice/intermediate or just any recreational lifter? I suggest everybody read:
http://forum.reactivetrainingsystems.com/content.php?136-Thoughts-for-Round-Back-Deadlifters
http://sheiko-program.ru/benedikt-magnusson-and-kirill-sarychev-deadlift-comparison
https://www.t-nation.com/training/how-to-pull-1008-pounds-and-make-it-look-easy
Now of course everybody will have to find his best set-up and go from there, for me it's a primarily back exercise eventho I pull with a form resembling Kirill's of all people listed here.
 
I love them because I feel like they prime the whole body for growth, but they are so taxing on the nervous system and seem to cause injuries a bit more, so I ask myself if I would be better off doing more volume with stuff like rows. I actually hurt my hip now and can't do them for a bit and I'm just worried about the overall power I'm losing.
 
I love them because I feel like they prime the whole body for growth, but they are so taxing on the nervous system and seem to cause injuries a bit more, so I ask myself if I would be better off doing more volume with stuff like rows. I actually hurt my hip now and can't do them for a bit and I'm just worried about the overall power I'm losing.
I did not deadlift for 3yrs because of my broke back. I lost alot of power. But l started over and really concentrate on firm now and strength is coming back. I always try to look at the good in things and not worry about the negative. Good luck
 
If you have back issues or you can't get your form to the point where your lower back doesn't hurt the day after pulling then deadlifts aren't worth it, everyone else should be doing them if they want to maximize strength and back development.

My first 25+ years of lifting I rarely did deads. Then when I decided to start competing as a powerlifter I had to play catch up in my 40's. At 49 now I have set PR's pulling at my last 4 meets and my back has never been thicker or more developed.

At under 200 my pull has gone from 425 to 560 over the past four years. Every deadlifting session zaps my strength for the next 24 hours or so. It isn't easy and most of the time it isn't fun but in terms of overall strength and development it is hard to beat deadlifting in my opinion.
 
If you have back issues or you can't get your form to the point where your lower back doesn't hurt the day after pulling then deadlifts aren't worth it, everyone else should be doing them if they want to maximize strength and back development.

My first 25+ years of lifting I rarely did deads. Then when I decided to start competing as a powerlifter I had to play catch up in my 40's. At 49 now I have set PR's pulling at my last 4 meets and my back has never been thicker or more developed.

At under 200 my pull has gone from 425 to 560 over the past four years. Every deadlifting session zaps my strength for the next 24 hours or so. It isn't easy and most of the time it isn't fun but in terms of overall strength and development it is hard to beat deadlifting in my opinion.
i always get a sore lower back the day after deads and squats, i just figured it was because my lower back is weak as fuck and needs strengthening though.. i never lift heavy on deads because of this, do not want an injury. I've always thought the sore back the next day was DOMS..
 
i always get a sore lower back the day after deads and squats, i just figured it was because my lower back is weak as fuck and needs strengthening though.. i never lift heavy on deads because of this, do not want an injury. I've always thought the sore back the next day was DOMS..
Don't do deads and squats in the same day- and do explosive glute ham raises on both days.
 
i always get a sore lower back the day after deads and squats, i just figured it was because my lower back is weak as fuck and needs strengthening though.. i never lift heavy on deads because of this, do not want an injury. I've always thought the sore back the next day was DOMS..

The hurt/pain Masters is talking about is different than soreness and DOMS. Soreness and DOMS is fine, pain is not
 
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