Deca dosing?

[Grey Spartan]

It wasn't the drug mate. It just amplified what you already had.

I can confirm this. Some AAS/PEDs will lower your threshold for stupidity. A normal person will just think in their head "how does this person even breath" or they will just put up with others passive aggressive behavior. I on the other hand, will mention politely the errors of their ways. However, some AAS/PEDs will make me go out of my way, in a not a so polite way, to make sure they understand the error of their ways.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

It wasn't the drug mate. It just amplified what you already had.

You’d be incorrect lol. I’m definitely not an asshole towards anyone especially my wife. We have one moderate argument like once maybe twice a year. I have a strong social media presence on YT etc and run a fishing guide service im very cordial and engaging with almost everyone I come across unless they push buttons and try to be combative.

I don’t have any anger issues on any compound other than Mast. I wasn’t even all that bad on tren cept for some heavy irritation while driving and dealing with the regular asshats at work but it was manageable and I seen it coming before it happened usually

 

[B Ware]

I’m prescribed Deca. Have been for a few years now at a dose of 100mg weekly. For the most part I take trt, Deca and hgh year round. The small dose of deca and hgh complement each other and has been wonderful for my appearance.

I had kinda thought the deca helping with joint aches was BS until I came off a year or so ago due to having some bp issues. I dropped the Deca to see if it was the culprit, which it wasn’t. After dropping it I started feeling pretty beat down and had a lot of aches. Mainly in my knees. Anywho, been back on for some time and feel great.

 

[qadsan]

50mg works for me for joint relief and some (very) slight anabolic effects on top of TRT. Takes 4-6 weeks to start seeing the joint relief but for me it lasts beyond cessation/clearance. I am a hyper responder though

Same here, but 60mg / week of Deca and it’s been great for joint pain relief.

 

[NotHuman]

I certainly will not deny anyone’s experiences with nandrolone as far as saying they’ve had mental sides from it, but was this really ever talked about in the past? It seems like people are only reporting this issue in the last 5-10 years. What gives?

 

[narta]

I certainly will not deny anyone’s experiences with nandrolone as far as saying they’ve had mental sides from it, but was this really ever talked about in the past? It seems like people are only reporting this issue in the last 5-10 years. What gives?

Back in the day, you would just walk it off.

Now it's whining like a little biotch cause science says you are suffering from it (and not form your shitty life)

 

[Astartes]

Back in the day, you would just walk it off.

Now it's whining like a little biotch cause science says you are suffering from it (and not form your shitty life)

Isn’t that so demonstrative of a lot of things today.

 

[narta]

Isn’t that so demonstrative of a lot of things today.

Sure.

Science is fundamentally correct and true for alot of things, can measure and explain the cosmos, but not everything can be standardized by it, specially things that have to do with individual biology.

As with all things there are limitations. If there were not, the ultimate cycle should have been known years now

 

[JP RIGGS]

I am in a similar mindset about the deca. I have really been enjoying it at 200mg per week and would love to stay on this dose forever, I am just not sure if it’s worth the risk so I am dropping to 100mg as a TRT add on for the time being. I will probably bump it back up to 200mg next time I feel like blasting. I haven’t gotten any mental sides some people mention or anything like that.

There is an older doctor on YouTube named Jeffrey Rutterbusch who said he was on 200mg for 20 straight years before stopping and said he felt great on it, for what that’s worth. I didn’t hear him mention getting any sort of heart scans though.

Ive been on 200mgs deca for 5 years. No issues.

 

[NotHuman]

Ive been on 200mgs deca for 5 years. No issues.

Have you had any heart scans of any sort in that time by any chance? I can say my labs are pretty unaffected by 200mg deca besides a little HDL decrease

 

[B Ware]

Ive been on 200mgs deca for 5 years. No issues.

Same with the no issues. I’ve read about the sides such as Deca dick and mental sides but I’ve personally never experienced any of them and I ran some pretty big Deca doses back in the day. Deca was actually incorporated in my first cycle many years ago and I’ve had love for it ever since.

 

[JP RIGGS]

Have you had any heart scans of any sort in that time by any chance? I can say my labs are pretty unaffected by 200mg deca besides a little HDL decrease

Yes get an ECHO & EKG yearly through my work...Also, my cholesterol levels stayed pretty much the same since adding deca to my TRT.

 

[JP RIGGS]

Same with the no issues. I’ve read about the sides such as Deca dick and mental sides but I’ve personally never experienced any of them and I ran some pretty big Deca doses back in the day. Deca was actually incorporated in my first cycle many years ago and I’ve had love for it ever since.

Something to be said about nandrolone if you don't get any sides. It's actually becoming part of TRT by itself with great results.

 

[effswithtren]

Same with the no issues. I’ve read about the sides such as Deca dick and mental sides but I’ve personally never experienced any of them and I ran some pretty big Deca doses back in the day. Deca was actually incorporated in my first cycle many years ago and I’ve had love for it ever since.

I’m convinced the majority of sides are self-induced from reading about them on the internet and being a hypochondriac, or psyching yourself into having them.

Mood changes are one. You see it with lots of other drugs. Whiskey makes me do this, but vodka makes me do that. And people really believe that of themselves, which is simply silly.

My half-hot take is that most deca-dick is self-induced. Seems like kids touch the bottle and their dick just goes limp. I’ve ran deca at a gram for months and everything worked fine. It really wasn’t a thing you heard much about until forums started parroting what they overheard about deca-dick once in a bar.

Ok but I say all that, but, tren makes me act like a cheap knockoff of American Psycho. So there’s that too.

 

[readalot]

I’m convinced the majority of sides are self-induced from reading about them on the internet and being a hypochondriac, or psyching yourself into having them.

Mood changes are one. You see it with lots of other drugs. Whiskey makes me do this, but vodka makes me do that. And people really believe that of themselves, which is simply silly.

My half-hot take is that most deca-dick is self-induced. Seems like kids touch the bottle and their dick just goes limp. I’ve ran deca at a gram for months and everything worked fine. It really wasn’t a thing you heard much about until forums started parroting what they overheard about deca-dick once in a bar.

Ok but I say all that, but, tren makes me act like a cheap knockoff of American Psycho. So there’s that too.

iykyk

If you personally don't get them then more power to you. Individual variation is a thing.

Nandrolone induced insanity/hypersexuality is a thing. So is DD. Nandrolone is a helluva drug for some people's brains.

 

[sh1n]

Same here, but 60mg / week of Deca and it’s been great for joint pain relief.

Good to know thanks

 

[effswithtren]

iykyk

If you personally don't get them then more power to you. Individual variation is a thing.

Nandrolone induced insanity/hypersexuality is a thing. So is DD. Nandrolone is a helluva drug for some people's brains.

There’s for sure a degree of individuality to it. These things don’t come from nowhere. I’d wager it’s a fraction of the people that think it happens to, though.

Especially the sexual component, that’s pretty common. Tren makes me fucking weird. I wish it didn’t, but it does. Nandrolone doesn’t for me, but someone else maybe that’s not so true.

I will say I get a bit more confident, hard working, and Type A when I’m running tren but I can be a lackadaisical slapdick running nandrolone. It’s not extreme, but it is there. It was enough that I intentionally ran some tren when I was out interviewing for a big promotion, and I do think it helped past placebo.

 

[effswithtren]

Something to be said about nandrolone if you don't get any sides. It's actually becoming part of TRT by itself with great results.

Some people say they get depressed af on nandrolone, like abruptly suicidal. I think it’s rare, but it’s enough I’d give it a warm up period before diving in to see if it’s for someone or not.

It doesn’t do really much of anything to me outside being maybe a little lower-effort and less worried about things. Which is a weird side effect, but I’ve heard that reported too.

It gains muscle like wild though, so for me that side is EASILY worth it. Other people, not so much if it makes you want to kill yourself.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Masteron was the compound I had the most side from emotionally. Biggest issue was I didn’t see it until it had done a lot of damage to my relationship with my wife and pretty much everyone I came into contact with. I was a whole entire asshole the entire time I ran it. I tossed the rest I had after I had that epiphany moment when I realized how much I’d changed.

Honestly tren didn’t have shit on masteron with me when it came to anger and irritation.

I never considered masteron doing this but now that I think about it I think it may so the same to me. I ran medium test/mast for two months and then bumped to 500test/600mast and threw in 250 tren e a few weeks later. Noticed I was getting edgy and a little more argumentative. Most of the time I could catch myself before I said anything I might regret. Now I'm wondering if it was the mast and not tren. Next time I'll swap the mast for EQ or just test/tren to see

 

[lebroseixoife-6939]

I decided to use Deca for the joint/pain relief and figured I’d use 200mg to get anabolic benefits in addition to that. Been on it for 15 weeks now. It has completely eliminated most of my joint/pain issues.

I can’t say I have had any negatives or side effects on 200mg. I probably wouldn’t be comfortable going higher for the possible cardiac risks you mentioned. The harmful heart studies were on rats that used doses around 1g per week what the human equivalent would be.

We know 200mg is safe for at least four weeks. Too bad this study didn’t go longer

Effects of testosterone and nandrolone on cardiac function: a randomized, placebo-controlled study - PubMed

Four weeks of treatment with testosterone or nandrolone had no beneficial or adverse effects compared with placebo on cardiac function in healthy young men.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Not that it is necessary in any way, but I am dosing it daily btw with my testosterone, so I am using 30mg per day to get to 210mg per week.

So, 210mg test a week and 200mg deca a week?