Deca. Ends justify the means?

[ve79]

Lowered the Deca from 175mg per week to 87.5mg for 2 weeks. Still couldn't shake the mental sides. Definitely maintained the high libido, strength increase, requiring less sleep and joint relief. I would definitely lose my marriage though if I continued on. Literally tossed out the window into the woods.

Knowing my addictive personality, if I threw in the garbage, a day later I'd be rummaging through the garbage to get it.

When my source gets NPP in I'm going to give it a shot. I hope with NPP I can get the benefits and not the mental sides. Deca just increased insecure thoughts, over analyzing my wife's body language and words, some paranoia, retroactive jealousy, and quicker to argue. Basically made me into a muscular bitch.

Started developing arm and chest acne too. Perhaps though because of cruising on 375mg of Test and adding 87mg of Deca on top is too many androgenic effects?

What's interesting is when i started injecting Test solo daily, at 375mg weekly, my acne disappeared. When ever another compound was thrown in on top, whether it be Masteron or Deca, the acne would start. Maybe if I try NPP I'll need to lower the Test to keep the androgenicity down to avoid the acne.

Bro. I get the same sides. I get edgy and short fused. I also get acne all over my back and soon as I drop it and just run test it goes away and everything gets better I also retain a ton of water. I can only run it for 10 to 12 weeks max because I then start to get super tired and feel like shit. The benefit for me is my workouts are insane and I respond to it very quickly. In 4 weeks I can feel it

 

[Malevolent666]

Bro. I get the same sides. I get edgy and short fused. I also get acne all over my back and soon as I drop it and just run test it goes away and everything gets better I also retain a ton of water. I can only run it for 10 to 12 weeks max because I then start to get super tired and feel like shit. The benefit for me is my workouts are insane and I respond to it very quickly. In 4 weeks I can feel it

It's crazy how my libido goes way up a day after the first injection of Deca. There's something about how it affects some people's brains. Probably all genetic

 

[ve79]

It's crazy how my libido goes way up a day after the first injection of Deca. There's something about how it affects some people's brains. Probably all genetic

100 percent bro. It's all about how your chemical structure in your body works

 

[Gonz0]

It is overblown i would say. Dont listen to mr. mike saying he was raging all the time that is bullshit. I take tren and I do feel different but its not something drastic, it makes me feel less in general. less of any emotion, so like im almost more level in a way. My emotions are just less in every emotion if that makes sense. I sometimes but very very rarely will get a little bit angry and certain things but Its like once a year. I do notice that tren can make me start to complain about things like just things I see in the world I start to bitch a lot. You really have to try it and see just start low with ace and see what happens.

This is the most accurate depiction of tren , at least this is how I feel. Just very flat emotionally.

 

[Oydarwm]

I cruise on daily injecting of Test C at 350mg a week. That's not what I'm looking to debate. I added in Deca at 175mg a week 2 weeks ago. Daily injections of it. My right knee pain is completely gone. I'm a local truck driver and climbing in and out of the semi truck was painful. That's completely gone.

I'm suffering from mental side affects though. Pro and con side affects.

Pros
Libido is high. Spiked literally the next day after injectioning Deca.
Sex feels much more intense and passionate.
Require less sleep and still feel sharp
Attraction to my wife is more intense
Right knee pain, completely gone

Cons
Jealousy/insecurity... For example if a family member makes my wife laugh a lot at a get together, I'll look inward that I'm not funny enough.
Overanalyze my wife's mood and take it personal.

My question is would cutting the dose down to 87.5 mg a week give my less mental sides and still the joint relief? Is it possible my brain (shit mental genetics) cannot handle Deca and I just simply can't have my cake and eat it too?

Thank you for any insight. Merry Christmas!

Ist Injekting deca Daily the best or 2-3 time a week

 

[NightBeast666]

I cruise on daily injecting of Test C at 350mg a week. That's not what I'm looking to debate. I added in Deca at 175mg a week 2 weeks ago. Daily injections of it. My right knee pain is completely gone. I'm a local truck driver and climbing in and out of the semi truck was painful. That's completely gone.

I'm suffering from mental side affects though. Pro and con side affects.

Pros
Libido is high. Spiked literally the next day after injectioning Deca.
Sex feels much more intense and passionate.
Require less sleep and still feel sharp
Attraction to my wife is more intense
Right knee pain, completely gone

Cons
Jealousy/insecurity... For example if a family member makes my wife laugh a lot at a get together, I'll look inward that I'm not funny enough.
Overanalyze my wife's mood and take it personal.

My question is would cutting the dose down to 87.5 mg a week give my less mental sides and still the joint relief? Is it possible my brain (shit mental genetics) cannot handle Deca and I just simply can't have my cake and eat it too?

Thank you for any insight. Merry Christmas!

You can have your cake and eat it too when it comes to Deca/NPP.

Try 25 mgs of Dbol and 5 grams of L-Dopamine once a day.

If that doesn't work,
SSRI, and sleep meds. Find your dosage. It will work. For me on 700 Test, 350 NPP, it gave me a mood similar to 1.5 grams of Test only.

Be careful, those things are addictive. If it's just the joint pain rekief that you're targetting, even 70 mgs a week dosage would work.

 

[Malevolent666]

You can have your cake and eat it too when it comes to Deca/NPP.

Try 25 mgs of Dbol and 5 grams of L-Dopamine once a day.

If that doesn't work,
SSRI, and sleep meds. Find your dosage. It will work. For me on 700 Test, 350 NPP, it gave me a mood similar to 1.5 grams of Test only.

Be careful, those things are addictive. If it's just the joint pain rekief that you're targetting, even 70 mgs a week dosage would work.

87.5 mgs a week was driving my wife nuts. Sex addict, not sleeping because of being all over her all night, insecure thoughts causing arguments, and blood pressure up.

It's too bad because the gains are very good for me, joints feel fantastic and the sex feels incredible on Deca (like on ecstasy but wouldn't know).

 

[Mad scientist]

I cruise on daily injecting of Test C at 350mg a week. That's not what I'm looking to debate. I added in Deca at 175mg a week 2 weeks ago. Daily injections of it. My right knee pain is completely gone. I'm a local truck driver and climbing in and out of the semi truck was painful. That's completely gone.

I'm suffering from mental side affects though. Pro and con side affects.

Pros
Libido is high. Spiked literally the next day after injectioning Deca.
Sex feels much more intense and passionate.
Require less sleep and still feel sharp
Attraction to my wife is more intense
Right knee pain, completely gone

Cons
Jealousy/insecurity... For example if a family member makes my wife laugh a lot at a get together, I'll look inward that I'm not funny enough.
Overanalyze my wife's mood and take it personal.

My question is would cutting the dose down to 87.5 mg a week give my less mental sides and still the joint relief? Is it possible my brain (shit mental genetics) cannot handle Deca and I just simply can't have my cake and eat it too?

Thank you for any insight. Merry Christmas!

You should get estrodial and prolactin checked to see where your levels are. Deca can make your body more sensitive to estrogen so the same amount of estrogen you would usually have is going to effect you worse on Deca.

I’d consider adding something like DIM in every day to make healthier metabolites of estrogen that your body can handle better and keep tight control of your AI your using.

I just started deca, dbol, and test on DEC 9th and I seemed to have more negative side effects that went away when taking CABER at 0.25 twice or more a week. I’d look for pharma grade caber and be weary of any liquid Caber since supposedly it doesn’t do great in liquid and not every ugl is proficient at making it.

Also your central nervous system, entire brain chemistry, and balance of endorphins are probably out of wack from running 375mgs of Test a week. I would imagine many of your receptors have down regulated and your brain needs a break of true TRT to maybe be able to relax and regain normalcy.

You may be able to handle Deca and future cycles better if you give your brain some recovery time. This is advice to be able to blast and feel better so don’t think I’m trying to tell you how to live your life or making this into something about health, it’s just an observation your CNS needs a break maybe.

 

[Malevolent666]

You should get estrodial and prolactin checked to see where your levels are. Deca can make your body more sensitive to estrogen so the same amount of estrogen you would usually have is going to effect you worse on Deca.

I’d consider adding something like DIM in every day to make healthier metabolites of estrogen that your body can handle better and keep tight control of your AI your using.

I just started deca, dbol, and test on DEC 9th and I seemed to have more negative side effects that went away when taking CABER at 0.25 twice or more a week. I’d look for pharma grade caber and be weary of any liquid Caber since supposedly it doesn’t do great in liquid and not every ugl is proficient at making it.

Also your central nervous system, entire brain chemistry, and balance of endorphins are probably out of wack from running 375mgs of Test a week. I would imagine many of your receptors have down regulated and your brain needs a break of true TRT to maybe be able to relax and regain normalcy.

You may be able to handle Deca and future cycles better if you give your brain some recovery time. This is advice to be able to blast and feel better so don’t think I’m trying to tell you how to live your life or making this into something about health, it’s just an observation your CNS needs a break maybe.

True TRT is debatable correct? For example, if my total test was in the 300s prior to TRT and TRT brought me up to 900s. Wouldn't that increase be a "blast" to my system because genetically I'm low anyway? The reference range has been lowered multiple times so how factual is this range? What will the range be 10 years from now?

In my opinion it has more to do with brain chemistry (genetics) than estradiol. If my estradiol was high, my erections would be poor. On Deca it's quite the contrary for me. Perhaps my dopamine is on the higher end. I just think this goes deeper than estradiol or prolactin. Especially because I' have no gyno symptoms.