Deepness ITT, advices plz.

[x11]

The positions aren't equal, we dont possess never full knowledge of the universe so we are left with a few options to approach truth.

Tools have been developed that are proven reliable and useful to human progress.

The other option is to just make shit up. @flenser has chosen to invest in the path of woo woo.

But ya, only arguing for the lols really.

 

[LOVEMe89]

Evidence for any of this or I call horse shit.

Quantum mechanics, mathematics etc. Our reality is written in math. Although you feel solid, you're actually not really there.

 

[x11]

Quantum mechanics, mathematics etc. Our reality is written in math. Although you feel solid, you're actually not really there.

Show me the equations or you are just making shit up.

 

[LOVEMe89]

Show me the equations or you are just making shit up.

I'm not making it up.

 

[x11]

I'm not making it up.

You have left yourself open to accusations of just making shit up because you have made a positive knowledge claim re quantum mechanics and mathematics and not demonstrated how they justify your claim.

The honest thing to do is objectively support your claim with calculations or at least a good argument.

If you can't then I have no good reason to believe you aren't just making shit up.

TBH in the mood to intellectually beat your ass. I mean sure this is primarily an illegal drug dealing forum but still.

 

[flenser]

@flenser's position lacks any evidence based solution for the same reasons.

If read any or all of my posts in this thread, you should see I made no claims other than @x11 's givens are not givens, including #4.

Since there can be no proof of either position one must choose to believe his/her truth.

This is exactly my position. As far as choosing goes, I choose to admit ignorance and leave it at that.

 

[x11]

In the absence of knowns it is reasonable to hold justified beliefs.

Your position is completely unjustified.

You have no good reason to believe you had or will have any sort of conscious identity before or after the only existence you know of...this one.

There is no reason or justification to hold your position other than cope.

Stop coping bro and face the only reality known, this one.

 

[msl3862]

If read any or all of my posts in this thread, you should see I made no claims other than @x11 's givens are not givens, including #4.



This is exactly my position. As far as choosing goes, I choose to admit ignorance and leave it at that.

My apologies, @jflenser. I re-read your posts and indeed you did not advocate any particular viewpoint. In hindsight, my impression of what you had written became blurred as I read further into the thread.

I should have been more careful. I would never intentionally misrepresent your (or anyone's )thoughts.

Thanks for your restraint in pointing out my error. Hope we're good.

 

[flenser]

In the absence of knowns it is reasonable to hold justified beliefs.

Your position is completely unjustified.

You have no good reason to believe you had or will have any sort of conscious identity before or after the only existence you know of...this one.

There is no reason or justification to hold your position other than cope.

Stop coping bro and face the only reality known, this one.

Ha, this from someone who's OP defined non-existence as a "state of infinite unconsciousness", called it a given, and implied it was better than existence and inevitable suffering. All this just to justify fapping instead of actual sex!

But you made me snort coffee when I read your last post, so I guess you win..

 

[x11]

from someone who's OP defined non-existence as a "state of infinite unconsciousness", called it a given, and implied it was better than existence and inevitable suffering. All this just to justify fapping instead of actual sex!

This is a whole lot of putting words in someone else's mouth that they didn't say...stooping iow now.

 

[flenser]

This is a whole lot of putting words in someone else's mouth that they didn't say...stooping iow now.

pot, kettle, black..