Deoxycholate homebrew. Localized fatloss. What is important to keep in mind?

[IndividualMan]

I have gotten my hands on Deoxycholate Sodium salt, CoQ10, and L-carn base, all of them at 98%+ purity.
I am planning to homebrew each of them, Deoxycholate & L-carn in water,
CoQ10 in Oil around 6-10mg/ml, possibly in combination with TNE or Injectable orals.

I have the recipes for L-carn and CoQ10 already, but with deoxycholate I have a few questions.
How high is the mg/ml in conventional products using Deoxycholate? I personally have gotten my solution to 10%, but I feel as if that might be slightly too high if compared to the korean products sitting around 5%.

also, what PH should I aim for? are there any specific acids I should/could use to drop PH (cant remember which one to use for L-carn as well)? I know to keep PH above 7.5 to avoid congealing, but is there a sweet spot to avoid swelling/ stinging/ PIP.

All (productive) input is appreciated.

 

[Photon]

I have gotten my hands on Deoxycholate Sodium salt, CoQ10, and L-carn base, all of them at 98%+ purity.
I am planning to homebrew each of them, Deoxycholate & L-carn in water,
CoQ10 in Oil around 6-10mg/ml, possibly in combination with TNE or Injectable orals.

I have the recipes for L-carn and CoQ10 already, but with deoxycholate I have a few questions.
How high is the mg/ml in conventional products using Deoxycholate? I personally have gotten my solution to 10%, but I feel as if that might be slightly too high if compared to the korean products sitting around 5%.

also, what PH should I aim for? are there any specific acids I should/could use to drop PH (cant remember which one to use for L-carn as well)? I know to keep PH above 7.5 to avoid congealing, but is there a sweet spot to avoid swelling/ stinging/ PIP.

All (productive) input is appreciated.

KYBELLA is 10mg/ml. Personally I wouldn't mix anything with it..

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2020/206333s002s003lbl.pdf

My COQ10 is here

Post in thread 'Injectable coq-10'

Jan 6, 2026

Received some injectable coq-10 from MA yesterday.

Gently thawed it with a blow-dryer about 6" away and this morning it seems to have solidified again. Room temp is about 75 degrees.

Is this typical?

Also one of the sloppiest crimp jobs I've ever seen.

I brewed mine yesterday, looks pretty good.



40mg/ml adrol
200mg/ml coq10
400mcg/ml vit k2 mk7


Color looks different from yours tho..
Yours looks like the undissolved raw powder..

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[IndividualMan]

KYBELLA is 10mg/ml. Personally I wouldn't mix anything with it..

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2020/206333s002s003lbl.pdf

My COQ10 is here

Post in thread 'Injectable coq-10'

Jan 6, 2026

Received some injectable coq-10 from MA yesterday.

Gently thawed it with a blow-dryer about 6" away and this morning it seems to have solidified again. Room temp is about 75 degrees.

Is this typical?

Also one of the sloppiest crimp jobs I've ever seen.

I brewed mine yesterday, looks pretty good.



40mg/ml adrol
200mg/ml coq10
400mcg/ml vit k2 mk7


Color looks different from yours tho..
Yours looks like the undissolved raw powder..

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the Inspiration why i will probably brew my CoQ10 with PreWO injectables has answered, yippee.
Also, why in gods name is the amount of CoQ10 so high? this injectable has near 100% bioavaliabiliy, compared to the 2-3% of the oral. This is like taking a full bottle of oral CoQ10.
Maybe thats why it has a noticeable effect on BP? I will have to adjust my concentration to at least 50-75mg/ml for TNE/SDROL then.
For Adrol inject the 200 might be needed.

 

[Photon]

the Inspiration why i will probably brew my CoQ10 with PreWO injectables has answered, yippee.
Also, why in gods name is the amount of CoQ10 so high? this injectable has near 100% bioavaliabiliy, compared to the 2-3% of the oral. This is like taking a full bottle of oral CoQ10.
Maybe thats why it has a noticeable effect on BP? I will have to adjust my concentration to at least 50-75mg/ml for TNE/SDROL then.
For Adrol inject the 200 might be needed.

No idea honestly. I saw a website selling it at 300mg/ml at crazy prices a vial so I figured I'd do it at 200. I've been pinning first thing every morning, seems to give me a boost in energy but might be entirely placebo. AFAIK there's no toxicity limit so..

 

[IndividualMan]

AFAIK there's no toxicity limit so..

I hear a heavenly choir singing

 

[tiefox]

Has anyone tried this types of products ? do the they really work ?

 

[Photon]

Has anyone tried this types of products ? do the they really work ?

What do you mean?
KYBELLA? That's a FDA approved pharma product.

 

[dinfar1337]

i am more interested in the results. where are you gonna shoot it @IndividualMan

the last place for fat to go for me is my lower belly and i lose my 6pack pretty quick.

if it permanently kills fat cells it would be nice if i could use it like a laser treatment every 5 years to redistribute where fat goes on my body, or more specifically where it should not go first

 

[IndividualMan]

i am more interested in the results. where are you gonna shoot it @IndividualMan

the last place for fat to go for me is my lower belly and i lose my 6pack pretty quick.

if it permanently kills fat cells it would be nice if i could use it like a laser treatment every 5 years to redistribute where fat goes on my body, or more specifically where it should not go first

lower stomach.
have been injecting insulin there for almost a decade now, so I hold most of my torso fat there. Its ridiculous. Back veins, chest veins.

pinning my GH there has helped enormously, but I just want more. it is ridiculous that I have a quarter inch of fat on my upper abs and almost 1.5 inches of fat on my lowest abs, and not even an inch below them not even half a cm of fat.

So my hopes are, as you said, redistribute fat, or at least kill enough fat cells to rid myself of the depot there. I have all the time in the world, and enough Raws to pin a full 10-20mls every 2 weeks for the next five years, or until its all gone, so that should not be an issue.

Additionally I will do 600mgs of L-carn as an IM injection every day while doing these injections. I will have to stock up on needles tho, Deoxycholate injections have to be done 1 per cm^2.
I will also try Mots-C, but that will be more for insulin sensitivity, to get my body to produce fewer extra fat cells/ push more glycogen into organs and muscle while using less Insulin (and more GH, yippeee)

 

[dinfar1337]

have been injecting insulin there for almost a decade now, so I hold most of my torso fat there. Its ridiculous. Back veins, chest veins.

no its ridicilous

when i was lower muscle i need to get below 12% bodyfat to get it away.

now at 20kg + muscle added later its more like 14% but its still annoying as hell.

first time to get full abs i needed to get to like 8% or lower. full striations on shoulders, veins everywhere

 

[IndividualMan]

For me its especially tough, because my insertions are wonderful (symmetrical 8-pack, small waist) and that bit of fat makes me look like a girl who just got over her first episode of an eating disorder.

 

[Photon]

I will have to stock up on needles tho, Deoxycholate injections have to be done 1 per cm^2.

Insulin pen

 

[aromatizer]

I have gotten my hands on Deoxycholate Sodium salt, CoQ10, and L-carn base, all of them at 98%+ purity.
I am planning to homebrew each of them, Deoxycholate & L-carn in water,
CoQ10 in Oil around 6-10mg/ml, possibly in combination with TNE or Injectable orals.

I have the recipes for L-carn and CoQ10 already, but with deoxycholate I have a few questions.
How high is the mg/ml in conventional products using Deoxycholate? I personally have gotten my solution to 10%, but I feel as if that might be slightly too high if compared to the korean products sitting around 5%.

also, what PH should I aim for? are there any specific acids I should/could use to drop PH (cant remember which one to use for L-carn as well)? I know to keep PH above 7.5 to avoid congealing, but is there a sweet spot to avoid swelling/ stinging/ PIP.

All (productive) input is appreciated.

Clinical formulations (e.g., Kybella/Belkyra)​

• Approved deoxycholic acid injections for submental fat (Kybella/Belkyra) are 10 mg/mL deoxycholic acid in water for injection, with benzyl alcohol, sodium phosphate, sodium chloride, and sodium hydroxide; pH is adjusted to about 8.3 with HCl/NaOH.
• Recommended maximum per treatment is 10 mL (100 mg deoxycholic acid), with no more than 2 mL per injection site, using a grid of 0.2 mL injections spaced about 1 cm apart.

Effects and adverse reactions​

• Human studies with sodium deoxycholate injections into abdominal fat show dose‑dependent adipocyte lysis and an inflammatory reaction with pain, heat, erythema, swelling, nodules, and later fibrosis at injection sites.
• Histology demonstrates fat necrosis, intense phagocytosis by macrophages, and eventual fibrotic remodeling; systemic toxicity was not evident at studied doses, but the local reaction is intentionally cytolytic and inflammatory.

• Patent and regulatory documents emphasize aqueous formulations with sodium deoxycholate typically below about 5% w/v for pharmaceutical stability and tolerability, and with controlled pH around slightly alkaline 8–8.3 and isotonicity.

Mechanism in “fat‑dissolving” injections

• When injected into subcutaneous fat, sodium deoxycholate disrupts adipocyte cell membranes, causing adipocyte lysis and necrosis through its detergent action.
• This effect is non‑specific: in vitro it lyses many cell types (not just fat), but fat tissue is particularly vulnerable because it is relatively protein‑poor and lacks proteins that can bind and neutralize deoxycholate.

 

[IndividualMan]

Insulin pen

good call, I have a few of those laying around. only issue is pushing 1ml through my 32G insulin needles. will probably be better off getting 31G insulin needles for my pen.

 

[Photon]

good call, I have a few of those laying around. only issue is pushing 1ml through my 32G insulin needles. will probably be better off getting 31G insulin needles for my pen.

Get the ones with the fat base



0.2 mL injections spaced about 1 cm apart
15 spots a cart? lol