DHB

[m314]

What dosage do you run it at and for how long?

Last year I did a cycle with 200 mg/week test and 350 mg/week DHB, ramped up to 600 mg/week by the end. I started seeing strength gains in week 3. They kept coming all through the 14 week cycle. I stayed around the same weight (235), but I got significantly leaner and stronger through the cycle.

Right now I'm on 200 mg test, 100 mg trest, and 300 mg DHB. The trest sends my sex drive through the roof without adding much bloating at that dose. 300 mg DHB is enough to see strength and physique gains without side effects. I feel like I can run it for longer than 14 weeks this time depending on bloodwork.

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Last year I did a cycle with 200 mg/week test and 350 mg/week DHB, ramped up to 600 mg/week by the end. I started seeing strength gains in week 3. They kept coming all through the 14 week cycle. I stayed around the same weight (235), but I got significantly leaner and stronger through the cycle.

Right now I'm on 200 mg test, 100 mg trest, and 300 mg DHB. The trest sends my sex drive through the roof without adding much bloating at that dose. 300 mg DHB is enough to see strength and physique gains without side effects. I feel like I can run it for longer than 14 weeks this time depending on bloodwork.

Are you using an AI on this cycle and if so,, at what dosage?

 

[m314]

Are you using an AI on this cycle and if so,, at what dosage?

I'm taking 1/4 of an aromasin pill (~6.25 mg) twice a week. I only need a minimal AI dose with trest at 100 mg. I didn't need an AI at all for last spring's cycle with 200 mg test along with DHB.

 

[Oncewild]

On the daily injections of DHB, are you doing each of those with just DHB or some of the test mixed in as well. I don't have years of experience with DHB, but having run it twice in the last 12 months, I know what worked well for me and didn't for the pip. While heating seems to help--and also helps ensure it isn't even slightly crashed--what helped the most is making sure to pin with other compounds.

I cannot find the article now, but last year was reading where there is theory that DHB is absorbed more slowly than most compounds, and slower than many of the carrier oils used, so when we start getting that signiture DHB pip coming on around day 3, it is the remaining compound essentially crashing in the muscle as the carrier was absorbed. Again, no idea if that is the correct cause, but would certainly seem a logical conclusion considering how late PIP occurs, and how it really does seem to vary somewhat pin to pin.

For me personally, the amount of PIP I experienced was more a function of what percentage of the pin was DHB vs how much volume. Smaller pins of just DHB still hurt more than larger volumes with other things mixed in. So I quickly found drawing up each compound I was using in the same barrel and pinning together helped more than anything. I did end up both cycles pinning 4x a week to get the volume I needed for the DHB and other compounds running at the same time.

Anyone pinning 1+ ml of DHB alone, especially if into the quad, is a tough MF in my book. If someone wanted to know what PIP really felt like, and was actually trying to cause it, think that is exactly how I would tell someone to go about it.

 

[m314]

I've gotten some painful batches before. Cutting it with ethyl oleate helps more than anything else in my experience. If you're doing a 1.5 ml injection, just draw 1.5 ml of EO into the same syringe. Vials of sterile EO are easy to find online.

 

[TRT@40]

I cannot find the article now, but last year was reading where there is theory that DHB is absorbed more slowly than most compounds, and slower than many of the carrier oils used, so when we start getting that signiture DHB pip coming on around day 3, it is the remaining compound essentially crashing in the muscle as the carrier was absorbed. Again, no idea if that is the correct cause, but would certainly seem a logical conclusion considering how late PIP occurs, and how it really does seem to vary somewhat pin to pin.

Thank you for sharing your experience with DHB. My next cycle is going to include this compound for sure.
If the theory about PIP coming on around day 3 due to DHB crashing into the muscle is true, then this can't be good for the muscle tissue. Not questioning you but just the theory that you have read.
But I would think if the raw powder is mixed/dissolved well into the oil, then there should not be any crystals left that are crashing in the muscle unless it is already crashed when it is being injected...

 

[ButtPiP]

I'm 4 weeks on DHB pinning 3x a week. My theory is that DHB is absorbed slower than other compounds. I still have a small lump is my glute after pinning 2mls of DHB (no other compounds in syringe) 13 days ago.

I pinned 1ml DHB in my quad (no other compound in syringe) and the pip last 6 days.

I noticed that the barrel of syringe was colder than anticipated when loading with DHB. I heated the DHB on my last injection and almost no pip or lump.

I haven't seen too many posts about night sweats but I'm soaked every night.

 

[m314]

I got night sweats and an overall warm feeling at 600 mg/week. This doesn't happen for me at lower doses like 300 - 400 mg.