DHEA or Pregnenolone

[HeadDoc]

I heard Mark Gordon speak of using Cognitive Aminos and Pregnenolone for nootropic purposes and decided to d/c the provigil. Ron Rothenberg suggested in a intersession break at A4M that I take the pregnenolone up to 60 total in two doses (does this guy's energy seem boundless to you also?) for mood and memory. I had been on wellbutrin for a good number of years, then tried nurtraceutics instead: alpha-gpc, ALCAR, ALA, PS, etc. Then I did a six months trial on piracetam before starting provigil. I feel I've gone the gamet. My interests in antiaging medicine is just more than trt. Additionally, I believe what Rothenberg and Braverman have to say about bringing all of the hormonal systems up to youthful levels for optimal health and longevity.

 

[thefantom1]

It's funny that this thread came up... I just ordered some Pregnenolone for memory function.. (I can't remember squat) So when I get it and use it I will let you all know how it works for me..Im going to follow Dr. Shippens recommendation of 50mg a day...

 

[androjello]

What brands pregnenolone? Any reputable ones inparticular?

 

[HeadDoc]

I use Pure Encapsulations. Life Extension is another good one.

 

[androjello]

The cheapest source for Pure Encapsulations pregnenolone was myvitanet.com

Anyone else use this brand and shop somewhere else?

My last labs showed low pregnenolone levels so I'm going to give supplementation a shot.

 

[pmgamer18]

I get all of my supplements from Vitanet.com but can't get them to carry Indolplex/DIM if they would it would be a lot less money.
Phil

 

[androjello]

Once again Phil, you have proven yourself to be the MAN


Is the site just: http://www.vitanet.com ? Or is it something like myvitanet.com?

 

[pmgamer18]

Here is the link.
Phil
http://www.myvitanet.com/info.html

 

[buck]

If you want DHEA you might want to stock up.

JUNE 14, 2005 CHICAGO / On May 26, 2005, Senators John McCain (R-Arizona), George Allen (R-Virginia), and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) introduced a new Senate bill, S. 1137, which seeks to add DHEA to the list of federally controlled anabolic steroids.

www.saveoursupplements.org

 

[pmgamer18]

If you want DHEA you might want to stock up.

JUNE 14, 2005 CHICAGO / On May 26, 2005, Senators John McCain (R-Arizona), George Allen (R-Virginia), and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) introduced a new Senate bill, S. 1137, which seeks to add DHEA to the list of federally controlled anabolic steroids.

www.saveoursupplements.org

Is this so bad most of the people that make and sell supplements are not up to what they say is in the bottle. A lot of junk out there.
Phil

 

[buck]

Well it is for me as I do not need the government making those kind of decisions for me. I am quite capable of making them myself. People ned to be responsible for them selves.

 

[SWALE]

Once again we have an example of politicians making decisions about things they know absolutely nothing about. You cannot even elevate testosteorne levels in men with DHEA. Therefore it is not, and can not, be a "steroid".

It would be preferable had they done about one minute's worth of research before making this grab for votes. If this ridiculous idea becomes law, the public will suffer.

The health food industry, however, is not helping itself. I was advised by a young lady at a health food store recently that I can become "more manly" (as if that is even possible! LOL) by taking several 100mg DHEA capsules each day. When I attempted to explain just a bit of what was wrong with that statement, she turned and walked away. Nice.

 

[SPE]

DHEA Dose?

If one has low DHEA levels(268 with range of 280-450), what daily dose would yall recommend? I'm thinking 25mg will be fine, but just wanted to be sure.

 

[buck]

50 mg of dhea a day puts me in the middle of the normal range. And E2 at the bottom or below the normal range.

 

[SPE]

Thanks Buck...

Yeah, I was thinking about 25mg/day because of E2 issues. Normally mine is at around 31 (range <52), so I'm a little hesitant about bumping it up.

 

[pmgamer18]

I take this.
http://www.myvitanet.com/dhea260capph.html
My Dr. said if you take it before you eat it works better.
I was below the range and doing 25mgs. has me up in the middle.
Phil

 

[Random987]

Bump

I just got my labs back and everything was normal except:

Pregnenolone - 22 (10-200) ***
Total Estrogens - 187 (40-115) ***
(E2 was perfect)

Someone told me that Preg should be low when on TRT because "LH levels have a direct effect on the activity of the P450 side chain cleavage enzyme which is converts cholesterol into preg."

I am on 100mg test cyp a week with 250iu HCG two days before and they day before my shot.

Is pregnenolone an option?

 

[HeadDoc]

obviously you can increase pregnenolone. Why? What do you want out of it? Hcg will increase pregnenolone. Pregnenolone will increase dhea. And dhea will increase estrogen. If you just got all this balanced without pregnenolone, then you will have to check all over again. I did it to help with cognitive factors and it helped a little.

 

[Random987]

I am still experiencing some "brain fog" and motivation issues that I am trying to work on.

obviously you can increase pregnenolone. Why? What do you want out of it? Hcg will increase pregnenolone. Pregnenolone will increase dhea. And dhea will increase estrogen. If you just got all this balanced without pregnenolone, then you will have to check all over again. I did it to help with cognitive factors and it helped a little.

 

[HeadDoc]

I am still experiencing some "brain fog" and motivation issues that I am trying to work on.

let us know how things go for you. I'd better start posting some more coverage of nootropics and related substances so you and others will realize a great range of options: supplements, hormones, and medications.