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People looking for dick gainz. That’s the only reason why I can imagine this is of interest. Billions in a bottle if it worked but I haven’t seen evidence it does.
ive seen evidence it does, and you can buy DHT cream to put directly on your cockPeople looking for dick gainz. That’s the only reason why I can imagine this is of interest. Billions in a bottle if it worked but I haven’t seen evidence it does.
Is it normal for the average DHT levels 30 years ago to be three times higher than today? Bioidentical hormones were developed based on studies conducted 30 years ago and even earlier. Saying you don't trust any studies from 30 years ago while using 30-year-old drugs is ridiculous.just because it *was* doesn't mean it *should*.
also I dont trust the majority of studies about hormones from more than 3 decades ago.
they thought it was OK to give halo and masteron to women for gods sake.
This is exactly it. DHT isn't gonna grow your dick. It will grow your prostate though. So maybe it will make sex better if you stick things up your butt.People looking for dick gainz. That’s the only reason why I can imagine this is of interest. Billions in a bottle if it worked but I haven’t seen evidence it does.
obviously not trusting one study of 30 people 40 years ago is not the same as trusting anything made 30 years ago.Is it normal for the average DHT levels 30 years ago to be three times higher than today? Bioidentical hormones were developed based on studies conducted 30 years ago and even earlier. Saying you don't trust any studies from 30 years ago while using 30-year-old drugs is ridiculous.
All I can say is that most people criticizing this topic here will want to use DHT in the next 1-2 years.
Think about it, if there was real evidence of a cream that made your dick grow there would be no shortage of labs trying to cash in. Im not going to dismiss it entirely, but I do think it’s a scientific stretch to claim it would work on fully grown adults with closed receptors. Maybe Im wrong but I would like to see the studies…and not just some random person with dick picks on twitterive seen evidence it does, and you can buy DHT cream to put directly on your cock
Can you explain why, exactly, ppl will want to use pure dht in the next 1-2 years?Is it normal for the average DHT levels 30 years ago to be three times higher than today? Bioidentical hormones were developed based on studies conducted 30 years ago and even earlier. Saying you don't trust any studies from 30 years ago while using 30-year-old drugs is ridiculous.
All I can say is that most people criticizing this topic here will want to use DHT in the next 1-2 years.
Let's reason simply. In the 1980s, testosterone levels were higher, and now there is TRT to correct this. In the 1980s, DHT levels were higher; currently, there is no DRT, but I believe there will be.Can you explain why, exactly, ppl will want to use pure dht in the next 1-2 years?
Test levels are also down from generations past. There’s lots of potential explanations - hormone disrupters/chemicals in food, water and air. The change in society from a work force based on labor to a workforce that plays with their dicks behind a computer all day. Excessive stimulation 24/7. Lowered sleep times. Etc.
have you used masteron?As someone with PFS I would definitely use it. I've been looking for DHT Hep everywhere but can't find any (except for a known scammer site).
DHB inflames me too much and Masteron is probably not androgenic enough to do the job compared to straight DHT.
Base DHT is a nightmare to use as you'd have to apply a cream to your body every few hours and can't even get it to dissolve properly in anything for an actual injection.
What does this even mean?Statements about penis enlargement are really to simplify the topic. Most people aren't very interested in this after the age of 30. The benefits reported by those using DHT are far more significant.
Although it is not popular here, please search on Twitter. It is said to have anxiolytic effects (similar to phenibut), improvements in spatial and strategic intelligence, mild AI and SERM effects, and is used in the treatment of gynecomastia. In fact, those who use it say that everything expected from testosterone is actually present in DHT.What does this even mean?
have you used masteron?
are you taking testosterone injections?
how much testosterone were you taking for 2 months?I used sustanon for about 2 months, then tried Test P etc. None really helped that much and I don't seem to respond to androgens in a conventional manner (no libido or strength increase, sleep worsens, etc.)
I'm trying Masteron now, not sure what to think about it yet. Using with high dose HCG (1K IU EOD w/ 0.5 mg Letrozole EOD for E2 control)
how much testosterone were you taking for 2 months?
Were you taking letrozole during those 2 months? or a different a.I?
Why do all of you PFS people think you are some magical outliers that "dont respond" to testosterone or other things like every other person in the world.
now youre taking just masteron with letrozole??
How much masteron per week are you taking?
3500IU per week of HCG is high dosing?
It is so hard so sympathize with you PFS guys when you draw the whackiest conclusions after doing "research".
Maybe its more likely that you were doing something wrong, than you are a magical tesotsterone non-responder.
are you taking testosterone now?Sustanon 250. I used exemestane and I kept my E2 around 20 pg/mL. My testosterone on Sustanon was 1800 and I felt absolutely no improvement to well being, libido, strength or any of the other common effects of test, except that I got insomnia. Test P I ran at TRT doses and that was even more underwhelming. Now I am taking 400 mg of Masteron per week.
Not responding to androgens in a typical manner or at all is common in the PFS/PSSD sphere, and it likely has to do with changes to the androgen receptor itself.
I don't expect sympathy. I'm used to people responding in an accusing/aggressive manner as soon as this condition is even mentioned, almost as if it offends them personally that it might even exist or something.
Just try to understand that there is very limited scientific research for anyone to draw any conclusions on since the medical community is not very interested in this topic. The only thing available to us is trying to replicate what helped others, or "whacky conclusions" and "research" as you put it.
take 1 gram of testosterone, control your estrogen, add masteronAlthough this is probably my fault since I didn't explicitly mention it, I feel like you are concentrating too much on the "testosterone doesn't work for me" part, and not on the more important part which is: I can barely feel my dick for 8 years, libido/ED issues, visible penile tissue damage, constant brain fog and assorted personality changes and a whole myriad of symptoms that started exactly 2 weeks since ceasing to use Finasteride back in 2016 and they remain largely unfixed.
THAT is the main reason that I know something is wrong with me, not my expectations of what testosterone should or shouldn't do.
I have experimented with a ton of things by this point, what I am doing currently is just a drop in the water among all that.
Why am I using letrozole? Because I ran out of exemestane and that is what I currently have on hand.
HCG has helped a bit previously in the doses typically used to maintain testicular function (250 IU EOD). This is the first time that I am dosing it higher to see if it will work better, but I have huge aromatase issues in general and especially on HCG, so I need an AI alongside. I am not currently using testosterone, because too high test levels give me insomnia, which would happen if I added exo test on top of my own natural production. If something messes with my sleep I can't tolerate it for long. It's difficult enough to function without being wrecked by shitty sleep.
Anyway, my suggestion is to continue discussions via DM if you're so inclined, since this has nothing to do with the thread subject anymore.