DHT ESTER POLL

If there was any DHT ester product available:

  • i would use it

    Votes: 44 72.1%
  • i would not use it

    Votes: 17 27.9%

  • Total voters
    61
DHT in serum is very different than testosterone in serum, it’s been shown in studies that drastically increasing serum DHT doesn’t have the impact one would think, whereas increasing serum testosterone DOES increase DHT effects because that gets 5a reduced in the “DHT sensitive tissues”. Don’t think anyone knows for sure but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did a lot less than people would expect.
 
DHT in serum is very different than testosterone in serum, it’s been shown in studies that drastically increasing serum DHT doesn’t have the impact one would think, whereas increasing serum testosterone DOES increase DHT effects because that gets 5a reduced in the “DHT sensitive tissues”. Don’t think anyone knows for sure but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did a lot less than people would expect.
These discussions are meaningless. Most studies about DHT are misleading. For instance, it has almost been confirmed that E2 is a bigger culprit for the prostate. Currently, most people using DHT esters are very satisfied, and non-esterified DHT might be the best pre-workout option.

Regardless, there is a very serious demand for a product that is hard to find. You can see the reviews of users on Twitter. In the US, they can access it through compounding pharmacies or special UGLs.
 
These discussions are meaningless. Most studies about DHT are misleading. For instance, it has almost been confirmed that E2 is a bigger culprit for the prostate. Currently, most people using DHT esters are very satisfied, and non-esterified DHT might be the best pre-workout option.

Regardless, there is a very serious demand for a product that is hard to find. You can see the reviews of users on Twitter. In the US, they can access it through compounding pharmacies or special UGLs.
I’d agree there is serious demand for a hard to find product, but would disagree the discussions are meaningless. We parse apart biological actions of all the different products we put in our body, I think it’s totally fair to do the same with DHT. I agree many of the DHT studies are misleading or poorly done, doesn’t invalidate the fact that raising serum DHT levels doesn’t equate remotely to the same biological actions of endogenous DHT production.

None of that means DHT esters wouldn't be great, I’m just saying it’s not doing the same thing your endogenously produced DHT would do, which honestly might make it even better.
 
I’d agree there is serious demand for a hard to find product, but would disagree the discussions are meaningless. We parse apart biological actions of all the different products we put in our body, I think it’s totally fair to do the same with DHT. I agree many of the DHT studies are misleading or poorly done, doesn’t invalidate the fact that raising serum DHT levels doesn’t equate remotely to the same biological actions of endogenous DHT production.

None of that means DHT esters wouldn't be great, I’m just saying it’s not doing the same thing your endogenously produced DHT would do, which honestly might make it even better.
I meant it's absurd to argue for or against its production. I misunderstood you. I think it's not much different from endogenous production, but if DHT also decreases towards the evening like endogenous testosterone production, stabilizing the levels will probably be different. DHT is really complex. When its ester is used solo, it also raises testosterone levels, produces a lot of estrogenic metabolites, etc. High doses result in estrogenic side effects. These are the things I've observed from those who have used it so far.

It has significant GABAergic effects. Anecdotes say it increases pheromones. And I've seen mostly positive reviews from its users.

It's definitely a hormone that needs to be taken very seriously. Serious research and perhaps assistance are needed to use it because the effects are very complex. But not to fear effects like prostate enlargement or hair loss.
 
Maybe we should just spam qsc to bring DHT enanthate lol. I imagine it would be quite easy for them to produce it.
 
Maybe we should just spam qsc to bring DHT enanthate lol. I imagine it would be quite easy for them to produce it.
It shouldn’t be difficult for them to investigate the demand. But they probably don’t want to take the risk on a new product whose standards are not yet established.
 
I opened the topic for this reason. If they see that the demand is sufficient, they might want to produce it. one manufacturer said they could produce it ind a minimum of 10kg raw. 10kg is too much for one user. The others did not give a positive response.
What was the quote price on the 10kg and who was the producer? Been looking for DHTE for a while now. Just found this thread. I do group buys for a living. Lots of talk here but no organizing...

As long as dudes are not worried about their feminine features, eg hair; it's not like it can be worse for that than Tren, Provirion etc. I dont see why lots of guys would not be willing to buy at least 10g but possibly 100g depending on price just to see what it's all about... If it's fire it's fire, if it's not it's not. End of story. Lets at least put it to the test...
 
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What was the quote price on the 10kg and who was the producer? Been looking for DHTE for a while now. Just found this thread. I do group buys for a living. Lots of talk here but no organizing...

As long as dudes are not worried about their feminine features, eg hair; it's not like it can be worse for that than Tren, Provirion etc. I dont see why lots of guys would not be willing to buy at least 10g but possibly 100g depending on price just to see what it's all about... If it's fire it's fire, if it's not it's not. End of story. Lets at least put it to the test...

You may need to get in touch with @AASraw .
They're the only ones in the forum. Or maybe it's a chemical company, I'm not sure.
 
What was the quote price on the 10kg and who was the producer? Been looking for DHTE for a while now. Just found this thread. I do group buys for a living. Lots of talk here but no organizing...

As long as dudes are not worried about their feminine features, eg hair; it's not like it can be worse for that than Tren, Provirion etc. I dont see why lots of guys would not be willing to buy at least 10g but possibly 100g depending on price just to see what it's all about... If it's fire it's fire, if it's not it's not. End of story. Lets at least put it to the test...
I'm in for a groupbuy, keep us updated.
 
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